Great Bread or Toast Crisps

[shroomie]

Hey everyone, I founc this really good recipe for bread and toast crisps. Perfect for induction! Here is the link! Tell me what you think..I also wanted to know if I am on target or way off, lol. (but I think it's safe)

http://atkins.com/food/recipes/all/Atkins_Garlic_Toast_Crisps.html

If you cut out the olive oil and garlic and don't recook the loaf, then you have bread! But for the garlic crisp,just follow the whole recipe. I'm also sure that itf you wanted to try other flavors then you could do just that. I'm thinking of cinnamon or nutmeg or BOTH!

Let me know how this works guys!

[JoanOH]

Sorry, shroomie - it's not OK for Induction. Atkins Baking mix isn't allowed until the grain rung of OWL.

Here's the easiest way in the world to follow this WOE. Print out the list of acceptable Induction foods - then, don't eat ANYthing that's not on that list. No Atkins products, no special "low carb" frankenfoods, just what is on the list. Pretty simple, actually!

Here's the link to the acceptable list of foods. It's a good idea to print out several, carry one with you, hang one on the fridge, etc... then you never have to wonder!

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=19485

Keep us posted on how you're doing!
Joan J

[shroomie]

The Atkins website says that it is acceptable thouh

I went to the Atkins website, which showed that it was acceptable for Induction phase. Check this out. http://atkins.com/shop/products/Bake_Mix.html

If the orange box is highlighted, that represents what you can have on Induction phase. That was my biggest reasoning for buying it. Is that then wrong or something? Please let me know

[shroomie]

The recipe was also under the Induction section for recipes.

[JoanOH]

It is unfortunate that this is probably the MAIN problem folks have with Induction. Why does the Atkins web site say it's OK if it's not?

Understand, Atkins Nutritional folks (who now own the Atkins web site) are selling you their products and making a fine amount of money by doing so. However, if you read the 2002 edition of DANDR (the last one Dr. Atkins himself wrote) you will find that these items are NOT allowed during Induction. The bars, shakes, mixes, etc.... are all put out by Atkins Nutritional conglomerate and you cannot take their word that it's fine to eat them.

Again, stick to Dr. Atkins version of the diet - not the people who want to make money off you. Print out the acceptable foods list, and stick to it. Couldn't be easier!

Stay away from all "frankenfoods" - just eat good, pure unprocessed foods as they appear on the list. You'll have far, far more success. If you do a search here on ADBB for "bars" or "shakes" or "bake mix" I think you will find the moderators telling folks over and over again -- stay away from that stuff at least for now.

Here's some links for you:

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...ic.php?t=19847 - What About Sugar Alcohols?

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...ic.php?t=19841 - Can I eat Atkins Advantage Bars?

And, one of the best: Tips for Newbies: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...ic.php?t=19820 which contains this statement:

24. Avoid all low-carb and controlled-carb products made to replace the regular, high-carb items you're avoiding.....bread, candy bars, pancakes, muffins, cereals, etc......once you're past Induction and on your way to goal, use these products later as treats!

Don't just go by me -- I'm no pro -- but read through the FAQ forum - great info in there -- and read why it's really really beneficial to you to do what we call "a clean induction".

Joan J

[Naja]

That is one of the sadder things about Atkins - their own web site undermines the diet.

The book says no "frankenfoods" on Induction. No bars, no shakes, no bake mix, no Atkins products. That's a clean healthy Induction that will really get you kick started losing weight.

The web site says, "Yeah sure, go ahead, buy our products and use them during Induction....we'll take your money. Ka-ching! Sucker."

So what do you think is really the best thing for your body? Me, I believe the book and have deep suspicions about the financial motives of the web site. They wanna sell stuff. So they say in direct contradiction to the book that you can use their products on Induction. Not cool if you ask me.

Over reliance on low carb prepackaged products is possibly the most dangerous thing you can do on this diet. It may even be worse than out and out cheating, because you're constantly deluding yourself that you can have as much as you want of this and that and the other thing because it says low carb on the label. With the plethora of companies cashing in on the low carb craze, there are a lot of products out there and some of them are highly questionable.

One of the reasons Atkins works so well and produces healthy results is that the emphasis is on fresh simple foods like meat and eggs and vegetables. You have enough variety to be healthy, but not so much novelty that you overeat. And make no mistake, you can gain weight on a low carb diet if you eat many more calories than you burn. That's simple physics. Ketosis is a great advantage, but it only goes so far and it can be abused past the point of any benefit.

Prepackaged low carb foods are convenient and usually concentrated in calories, so it is easy to overeat them before you feel full and satisfied. They are also lacking in the good healthy vitamins and nutrients that are in fresh unprocessed foods. Some of them are not low carb at all. Sugar alcohols and glycerine are likely to be countable carbs according to some researchers, even though they aren't listed in the net carb count of a low carb product.

There are other low carb products that are out and out fakery. Independent verification groups have tested some of these products and concluded that the carb counts on the labels may not have much to do with the carbs inside the product. So "low carb" is a potentially dangerous word on a product label, and it should ring your alarm bells. Currently anyone can stick a "low carb" label on their product and it is legally meaningless. This may change at some point, but right now it's buyer beware.

I am not suggesting a fanatical avoidance of all low carb meal replacement products. A shake or a bar is better than a high carb cheat meal, and it's also better than a prolonged period of starvation if you really can't get to healthy low carb food. I use them occasionally when I am so strapped for time that I know I will not be able to get a fast food salad meal (chicken breast, spinach, hold the croutons and dressing) or open a can of sardines or a can of tuna to eat with celery sticks or bran/flax crackers. But if I have even 10 minutes to grab that salad or 5 minutes to gulp down that can of fish, I'll opt for that instead.

There are some days I don't have even that five minutes and whatever I eat is going to be while I am driving. So I keep a few low carb bars in the glove compartment of the car and use them when it's turning out to be that kind of day. I also keep bags of beef jerky and pemmican in the pantry and grab those to nosh when I know I'll be in a hurry.

I also like to hardboil and peel some eggs at the beginning of the week and keep those in bags in the fridge for a quick grab, along with some celery, small packs of flax/bran crackers, cans of tuna, cooked chicken breasts, etc. So I can usually put together a quick low carb meal to go in less than 30 seconds of reaching in the fridge or sweeping the shelves. That's a lot better than having to rely on a shake or a bar.

Overeating "low carb" products is a pretty direct route to disaster. As occasional treats or emergency rations they're useful. Otherwise they're dangerous and should be generally avoided. Atkins doesn't encourage dieters to count calories, because the caloric restriction happens painlessly and naturally when you are eating natural food. But when you are eating an unlimited amount of processed, calorically concentrated food, you will run into serious trouble. Especially since it probably has more carbs in it than are showing on the label.

The other way that low carb products can be used a bit more safely is as part of a diet that is both calorie restricted and carb restricted. In this case they are used in *small* portions. Eg, eating half a low carb bagel with 1 tsp of a low carb spread and 4 oz of low carb milk for breakfast is not too bad because the carbs are limited and you are also not overeating. But if you eat two bagels and slather them in a ton of butter and low carb jam and follow that up with a low carb candy bar, you will have overeaten on both carbs and calories. The result is likely to be fat storage rather than fat burning. And it's easy to overeat processed foods as a physically small portion can have a lot of carbs and calories. You don't feel as comfortably full after a low carb bar as you do after eating a plate of salad and meat, but the calorie count is actually pretty similar.

Truly low carb foods do not come in a package. That's an important thing to remember if you want to enjoy weight loss success on Atkins.