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    I posted a random challenge to a few friends in a chit-chat thread about matching mile for mile on daily exercise as a motivator to get some of them off the couch. What was a simple, one time idea quickly took form for a potential ongoing challenge to encourage new ADBBers to jump on the exercise bandwagon. I'm calling this ongoing challenge
    SHARKS vs MINNOWS

    but to pull it off I would need lots of help and plenty of dedicated Sharks.

    Initially, the veterans could be hand-picked by a moderator or some other impartial panel. Anyone could play whenever they wanted, but Sharks would need to commit to exercising at least 3X per week (or more) in order to take on all incoming challenges. A Shark should consider her position as a rare honor and work to keep her team as small as possible. After all, if there are too many Sharks, there won't be enough Minnows to feed on and the Sharks will die by default.

    A Minnow would be anyone who issued a challenge in the assigned thread. The Minnow would post the amount of miles (s)he had ALREADY COMPLETED in that day for one exercise session. Miles can come from any form of exercise that can realistically be accounted for in mileage (walking, jogging, elliptical, treadmill, biking, etc). For a Minnow to become a Shark, he would need to issue a challenge that was not covered by a Shark. Explanation follows:

    Sharks would need to check into the thread and make a post saying they are covering a specific Minnow's challenge. A Shark would have 24 hours from the Minnow's post to match the miles and repost their accomplishment. If the Shark was unsuccessful, or didn't post in the allotted time, or no one accepted the Minnow's challenge in a 24 hour period, the Minnow would become a Shark. Also, if there was a challenging Shark who failed to meet the challenge, he would revert to a Minnow.

    The hard part would be finding the moderator(s) to make sure everyone was following the rules and things were working smoothly. I'm thinking we would need a new thread every day with Minnows logging miles on the day of the new thread and Sharks having until the following day to respond (within the 24 hour time frame of the Minnow's post). The moderators (who might be responsible Sharks, Minnows or non-participants) would need to keep up with the challenges to determine who the current Sharks were at any given time. Perhaps a separate thread could be posted with a weekly list of current Shark players, and the list could be maintained as a shared Google Docs spreadsheet among the assigned moderator's of the challenge.

    I could create logos for the Sharks which would include a time frame (say number of weeks) on each graphic. People on the Sharks team would have the option of posting a graphic in their siggy showing how long they have stayed on the Shark's (veteran) team. In order to stay a Shark, one would have to participate at least 3X per week. After all, sharks have to keep moving to stay alive in the wild so it stands to reason that a lazy shark is a dead shark!

    Would this work? Is it worthwhile? Are there additional aspects that need to be fleshed out before rolling out this new, ongoing challenge? Do any mods want to help coordinate and pick out the initial team of Sharks? Does anyone even care? Bueller?
    Eric (265/247.5/220)
    (re)Started 3-17-10

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    Re: New Idea: Sharks vs Minnows

    Question: The minnow posts the amount of miles he/she has already completed. Does the shark need to beat that number of miles using the same type of exercise that the minnow used?

    It seems like the answered would have to be yes but if so that brings up some issues that may become problems.
    Grant
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      Re: New Idea: Sharks vs Minnows

      eric, concerning the idea of starting a new thread every day:

      the 6 wec use to be in this forum. threads were very hard to navigate both for the 6 wec and the monthly challenges. things were so hard to keep track of that a new forum was created and all the 6 wec threads were moved thus making what we now know as the Six Week Challenge/Exercise Forum.

      since there would be new threads every day, would it work to set this challenge up in the Social Group area?
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        Re: New Idea: Sharks vs Minnows

        @Grant: No, at least in my initial brainstorm, the Shark would only be committing to matching the miles. The exercise would be Shark's choice.

        @jimmie: I would leave the forum setup to the mods. In fact, I'm not ready to take this project on solo anyway. It was just a brainstorm, and I would want some other assistants to help carry the banner. To be honest, I don't even know that I qualify as a first-team Shark with only 3 weeks of dieting under my belt and a week of C25K. I was hoping the first step would be choosing a qualified "board of directors" with a follow-up step being a draft of the initial team.
        Eric (265/247.5/220)
        (re)Started 3-17-10

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        • #5
          Re: New Idea: Sharks vs Minnows

          Alright eric i made it over here....so now like i am a 3 year old! Please do explain!! The sun is shining and I am ready to pull myself off the couch and get out for my bike ride.....




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            Re: New Idea: Sharks vs Minnows

            Originally posted by LateNiteDiner View Post
            @Grant: No, at least in my initial brainstorm, the Shark would only be committing to matching the miles. The exercise would be Shark's choice.
            I guess either way there could be problems. If you do require the shark to use the same form of exercise then there could very well be not enough sharks who do a particular type of exercise and minnows who do anything but the standard types of exercise probably wouldn't have anyone take them up on their challenge.

            On the other hand if the shark doesn't have to do the same form of exercise as the minnow then someone liek me, who is an avid bicyclist, could potentially abuse the system. If some poor minnow works their buns off and posts a challenge that they jogged 5 miles and I come along an accept the challenge and match their miles on my bike...I wonder if they will feel cheated since biking 5 miles is sure a heck of a lot easier then jogging 5 miles you know?

            Hmmmmmm. I suppose I shouldn't complain....it seems likely that, unless a minnow bicylist comes along, I'd be able to stay a shark for a very long time.
            Grant
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              Re: New Idea: Sharks vs Minnows

              I could be your minnow grant! Im a beginner! lol




              HW-162/SW-152/CW-140/GW-130...and than some later if needed!

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                Re: New Idea: Sharks vs Minnows

                Originally posted by Grant View Post
                On the other hand if the shark doesn't have to do the same form of exercise as the minnow then someone liek me, who is an avid bicyclist, could potentially abuse the system. If some poor minnow works their buns off and posts a challenge that they jogged 5 miles and I come along an accept the challenge and match their miles on my bike...I wonder if they will feel cheated since biking 5 miles is sure a heck of a lot easier then jogging 5 miles you know?
                But a shark can only compete against one minnow per day so if you put up your 18 miles on the bike against one minnow's 5 mile jog, then 3 other minnows who walked 2 miles each plus a minnow on a stationary bike goes 6 miles the same day, there need to be 4 other Sharks available that day to cover the other challenges.

                The Sharks would want to work together as a team to keep their numbers low (think group King of the Hill) -- perhaps they would get temporary access to a Shark's only forum -- by determining which Shark would cover which challenge on each day.

                As an avid cyclist, perhaps you would want to hold out each day to cover the biggest challenge. But your logged miles would have to occur within the 24 hour period following the minnow's post.

                Does that make more sense?
                Eric (265/247.5/220)
                (re)Started 3-17-10

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                  Re: New Idea: Sharks vs Minnows

                  That makes sense. Maybe there should be a rule where the shark can't eat the same minnow twice in a row or more then twice in a week or something like that, to stop anyone from feeling picked on.

                  On the other hand that might be a bad rule idea especially if there are sharks and minnows pretty darn evenly matched that want to repeatedly challenge each other.

                  hmmmmm


                  Originally posted by Jules1980 View Post
                  I could be your minnow grant! Im a beginner! lol
                  Jules - I saw your first post where you mentioned bike riding and my ears perked up.

                  I could be a while before this challenge gets off the ground, in the meantime if you (or anyone else?) wants to do a little one on one challenge let me know...that could be fun too.

                  I should warn you though that if I can get my buns in gear I want to do a century ride at the beginning of June so I expect to be upping my miles a lot in the next few weeks
                  Grant
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                    Re: New Idea: Sharks vs Minnows

                    Originally posted by Grant View Post
                    Jules - I saw your first post where you mentioned bike riding and my ears perked up.

                    It could be a while before this challenge gets off the ground, in the meantime if you (or anyone else?) wants to do a little one on one challenge let me know...that could be fun too.
                    That's pretty much how the idea came to me, and to be honest, taking on individual challenges would probably be a great idea, especially to see if there is enough interest in the concept, and to develop an idea of who would make the best initial Sharks. The only difference is that I think the "Sharks" would have to initiate the one-on-one threads looking for takers.

                    Perhaps we could come up with some consistent verbiage for each independent one-on-one challenge post so that it would naturally blend into the official Shark vs Minnow challenge when released.
                    Eric (265/247.5/220)
                    (re)Started 3-17-10

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                    • #11
                      Re: New Idea: Sharks vs Minnows

                      Hi Eric
                      It sounds like an interesting challenge for you to set up. Have you read the thread on setting up and runnung challenges here on ADBB yet?

                      It might give you some idea on how to progress this idea.
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