Fat?

[Elizellen]

Re: Fat?

No you need to count the carbs of all food you eat, not just the vegetables. so count eggs (0.6 carbs per egg) and cheese (1 carb per ounce regardless of what the actual carb number is). From the Allowed list of induction foods

*All cheeses have some carbohydrate content. The quantity you eat should be governed by that knowledge. The rule of thumb is to count one ounce of cheese as equivalent to one gram of carbohydrate. Note that cottage cheese, farmer's cheese and other fresh cheeses are not permitted during Induction. No "diet" cheese, cheese spreads or whey cheeses are permitted. Individuals with known yeast symptoms, dairy allergy or cheese intolerance must avoid cheese. Imitation cheese products are not allowed, except for soy or rice cheese-but check the carbohydrate content.

[TIME2SHINE4-08]

Re: Fat?

No you need to count the carbs of all food you eat, not just the vegetables. so count eggs (0.6 carbs per egg) and cheese (1 carb per ounce regardless of what the actual carb number is). From the Allowed list of induction foods

Ok thats what I thought at first. I went to a total of 20 every day(after deducting fiber). I must have misunderstood an above post. Oh yes I definately need the proper book.

I really don't see how I can increase my veggies then as suggested. I don't want to cut out my eggs or the 2 T's of cream in my 1 daily soda. Eggs are one of my very favorite foods.

[kate58]

Re: Fat?

The veg is important - it's a must. Apart from being an integral part of induction, including decent levels of high nutrient value veg in your daily diet from the get go is building essential good habits for a life-long way of eating heathily while maintaining your weight.

Your current thinking seems to be that you want certain foods so, in order to have them and at the same time keep your carb count at/around 20, you are rationing your veggies. Try approaching it from the other end: build in the veg you need, and then see what carbs you have left for other stuff.

An egg is only one carb. Having veggies is not going to deprive you of eggs! It's almost impossible to eat more than 15g of carb daily by eating up your veg as prescribed for induction and it's often quite a bit less than that.

[TIME2SHINE4-08]

Re: Fat?

The veg is important - it's a must. Apart from being an integral part of induction, including decent levels of high nutrient value veg in your daily diet from the get go is building essential good habits for a life-long way of eating heathily while maintaining your weight.

Your current thinking seems to be that you want certain foods so, in order to have them and at the same time keep your carb count at/around 20, you are rationing your veggies. Try approaching it from the other end: build in the veg you need, and then see what carbs you have left for other stuff.

An egg is only one carb. Having veggies is not going to deprive you of eggs! It's almost impossible to eat more than 15g of carb daily by eating up your veg as prescribed for induction and it's often quite a bit less than that.

Please explain to me where I am doing this I honestly don't see it and I want to because I want to do the best I can on this "new to me" version of Atkins.

"Your current thinking seems to be that you want certain foods so, in order to have them and at the same time keep your carb count at/around 20, you are rationing your veggies. Try approaching it from the other end: build in the veg you need, and then see what carbs you have left for other stuff.".

I've had 1-3 carbs of my alotted daily in cheese or cream on everydays menus as far as fitday reads. The rest of the carbs are veggies. I'm really not trying to ration veggies. With only 1-3 carbs comming from cream or cheese, say 2 from eggs wouldn't that leave the veggies right around 15?
The 2 oz of cream is a typo btw . It should read 2 T.

Ok here is just the veggies from a few menus. Most are raw



day 1
broccoli
creamed cucumbers
tomatos

day 2
a few handfuls of cherry tomatos out of the garden

Day 3
garden salad with ranch
broccoli with butter
1 c of cucumbers

day 4
1/2 a big red pepper
peppers and onions

day 5
onions and peppers
broccoli

I think I will understand whatever I'm obviously missing once I get the proper version of Atkins. Don't give up on me yet! I'm really trying to get it and I do appreciate the input.

[TIME2SHINE4-08]

Re: Fat?

I ordered the book today. I'm sure that will big time help!

[not2late]

Re: Fat?

I really think you need to get the 2002 edition of the book. In the 1972 edition and in the 1992 edition, vegetables were present but they took a back seat to the proteins and fats.

The majority of your carbs should be vegetable carbs. Heavy cream and eggs have carbs. Heavy cream has about 0.4-0.9 carbs per tablespoon depending on the brand. Many heavy cream brands include "mono glycerides" or "di-glycerides" in their ingredients. Glycerides are sugars. I'm not sure if fitday.com takes that into account. So 2 tablespoons of heavy cream is about 2 carbs. sour cream has about 1 to 2 carbs per tablespoon.
1 egg has about 1 carb. 1 ounce cheese has about 1 carb.

1 cup cucumber has about 2 net carbs.
1 cup broccoli has about 4.5 net carbs.
1 cup Cherry tomatoes has about 4 net carbs.
1 cup red pepper has about 3 net carbs
1 cup onion has about 11 net carbs

Also commercial salad dressings have carbs. Hidden Valley Ranch dressing has 1 carb per 2 tablespoons.

[TIME2SHINE4-08]

Re: Fat?

I really think you need to get the 2002 edition of the book. In the 1972 edition and in the 1992 edition, vegetables were present but they took a back seat to the proteins and fats.

The majority of your carbs should be vegetable carbs. Heavy cream and eggs have carbs. Heavy cream has about 0.4-0.9 carbs per tablespoon depending on the brand. Many heavy cream brands include "mono glycerides" or "di-glycerides" in their ingredients. Glycerides are sugars. I'm not sure if fitday.com takes that into account. So 2 tablespoons of heavy cream is about 2 carbs. sour cream has about 1 to 2 carbs per tablespoon.
1 egg has about 1 carb. 1 ounce cheese has about 1 carb.

1 cup cucumber has about 2 net carbs.
1 cup broccoli has about 4.5 net carbs.
1 cup Cherry tomatoes has about 4 net carbs.
1 cup red pepper has about 3 net carbs
1 cup onion has about 11 net carbs

Also commercial salad dressings have carbs. Hidden Valley Ranch dressing has 1 carb per 2 tablespoons.

Thanks~ I ordered it right after I got your PM.