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    I could use some help. I am trying the whole Atkins thing, primarily because my brother now has type 2 diabetes and is 24. I am no where near his weight (I weigh 190, he is at 340), but they put him on a diet that oddly sounds like Atkins, little carbs and such. So I figured I'd give it a shot so I know what he is going through, and also to lose some weight. I am 5'6'' and in the army, so the army tells me I am supposed to weigh 160. That is my goal.

    So I started on Monday. I already work out twice a day. I run on Monday, Wednesday, and Friday twice, and average 6 miles on those days. The other days, except Saturday and Sunday, I average 3 miles. Sometimes I run longer. The problem is that once I started this diet, I immediately noticed a drop in energy, I'm assuming from not getting enough calories. It felt pretty bad, like I was cutting weight on purpose. Combine that with the fact that for all three meals I am eating in a chow hall, so the variety and amount that I can eat of the things I am allowing myself to eat, are smaller. For example, if they are serving a meat, and the vegetable choices are potatoes and corn, I am pretty much eating the meat, and a salad, and that is it. If they have a green vegetable, then I am good, but it is a small portion unless I talk them into hooking me up. this will change once I get back home, as I am on temporary duty, and normally cook one or two of my meals a day.

    Also, I have sought other avenues to get enough calories. Beef jerkey (still counting the carbs), sugar free jello, and the Atkins shakes/bars - which I have read on here are a no go for the most part. I have also been eating about a cup to 1/2 a cup of cottage cheese for breakfast, which again, is a no go. I don't know if I have lost any weight, but I'll find out Tuesday, when I normally weigh myself. If anyone has any suggestions I would appreciate it! Not trying to cheat or anything, but I think that with all the working out that I do, my nutritional needs may be different. If I am just crying, then let me know, lol.



    Thanks!
    Start: 191
    Current: 188
    Goal: 160

  • #2
    Re: Question about induction...

    >>or all three meals I am eating in a chow hall, >>

    This is going to make doing Atkins very difficult.

    >> think that with all the working out that I do, my nutritional needs may be different.>>

    You may need more calories.

    However, the rules of Atkins are the rules.

    Perhaps a more flexible low carb plan would suit your current situation better?
    J.

    "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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    • #3
      Re: Question about induction...

      Originally posted by jjmil03 View Post
      The problem is that once I started this diet, I immediately noticed a drop in energy, I'm assuming from not getting enough calories.
      Not getting enough calories can be a reason.

      Also, many people experience a drop in energy at the beginning of Induction. This usually lasts only a few days, until the body switches from burning glucose to burning mainly fatty acids for fuel.

      Use fitday.com and check if you are consuming enough vitamins and minerals.

      And how much water are you drinking? You need adequate water and mineral intakes for electrolyte balance. Many people also don't get enough potassium from their Induction foods and need potassium supplements. You're not eating low sodium, are you?

      Are you taking a multivitamin?

      When you enter your foods in FitDay, other than checking your calories, net carbs, vitamins and minerals, also take a look at your fat and protein intakes. Are approximately 30% of your calories coming from protein and about 65% from fat?

      Beef jerkey (still counting the carbs)
      The brands I've seen have sugar and are quite carby.

      sugar free jello
      Well, this one is 0 calories. It doesn't help you. It just feeds your sweet tooth.

      I don't know what food options you have available. Can you add more fat to your meals (butter, oils, mayo)? Is there a way to get some fresh vegetables? What about cheese sticks (cheese is limited to 4 oz per day)?
      "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

      -- Theodore Roosevelt

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      • #4
        Re: Question about induction...

        I'll have to check out fitday and see. The beef jerky is 3 carbs, pretty much as plain as i could find. I also ensure I am eating a serving size and not the whole bag. I kind of wonder how I will know when my body starts burning the fat instead of the sugar. I guess I will know on Tuesday, lol.


        I am drinking a decent amount of water, and diet soda as well, some with splenda and others with the other stuff. If I am not losing weight I'll drink more water and less of the diet, as I have read here it can be a factor. I am not taking a multivitiman either, I'll have to look into that. I am trying to follow the rules as best I can, but due to circumstances, I may have to be a little forgiving depending on the day and what it brings. If I do go over the 20 carbs, does the kinesics (i think that is the word...) stop? If it does how long does it take to get it going again? I may have to just wait until I can control my environment a bit better, but I am still eating less calories than normal, so that may help as well for the weight loss. Thanks for all the help!
        Start: 191
        Current: 188
        Goal: 160

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        • #5
          Re: Question about induction...

          >>The beef jerky is 3 carbs, pretty much as plain as i could find.>>

          That doesn't make it Atkins friendly. What's the list of ingredients?

          >> I am drinking a decent amount of water,>>

          How much exactly is that?

          You know the minimum is 64 ounces ... and the other stuff doesn't count as water (nor will it help you lose).

          >>I am trying to follow the rules as best I can, but due to circumstances, I may have to be a little forgiving depending on the day and what it brings.>>

          That's why I suggested a less regimented low carb plan.

          Of course, if you just gave up whatever "junk" food/drinks you might be eating, that might also "do the trick".

          >>does the kinesics >>

          I believe the word you're looking for is "ketosis".

          >> am still eating less calories than normal, >>

          Not likely to be a good think with Atkins.

          Are you reading the book, Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution (2002)?
          J.

          "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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          • #6
            Re: Question about induction...

            Originally posted by jjmil03 View Post
            I kind of wonder how I will know when my body starts burning the fat instead of the sugar. I guess I will know on Tuesday, lol.
            Exactly!

            There are also physical signs of ketosis you might notice: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...g-ketosis.html

            I am drinking a decent amount of water, and diet soda as well, some with splenda and others with the other stuff.
            Well, sweeteners are limited to 3 servings/packets per day. A serving of diet soda counts as a serving of sweetener. I understand that you don't have a lot of food options, but you can drink water instead of diet soda, right? Don't use your limited food choices as an excuse to overdo artificial sweeteners.

            I am not taking a multivitiman either, I'll have to look into that.
            It should be one without iron.

            If I do go over the 20 carbs, does the kinesics (i think that is the word...) stop?
            Most people will be in ketosis eating 20 net carbs. And the majority of people are in ketosis when eating over 20 net carbs (net carbs are total minus dietary fiber). With your level of exercise, I'm pretty sure your CCLL (Critical Carbohydrate Level for Losing) is over 20. However, if you are doing Induction, carbs are limited to 20 net.
            "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

            -- Theodore Roosevelt

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            • #7
              Re: Question about induction...

              Alright. So from your posts here is what I got:

              Water intake: Not enough. Drink a glass or so a meal, so probably 30 or 40 oz a day.

              ]With your level of exercise, I'm pretty sure your CCLL (Critical Carbohydrate Level for Losing) is over 20.]
              I don't know what that means....do I want a low or high CCLL?

              Diet Drinks: More than 3. Normally drink it to stay awake, lol. I am in an army class and falling asleep is frowned upon, lol....a also was unaware there was a limit to the sweeteners.


              The Beef Jerky ingredients do have sugar as an ingredient, the 3rd one. I was primarily looking at how much per serving because I figured even if it is the first or last ingredient, 3g of carbs is 3g of carbs. That is probably wrong, but that was the thought process...


              It may help to point out I have not read the book, although now I do intend on getting it. I kind of just jumped into it on a whim Monday morning after thinking about it for a few hours after talking with my brother. So there are a lot of things I am sure I don't know about or am doing wrong. I guess there is a lot of FAIL going on in what I am doing right now, but I'll fix her up and be good. Thanks for the help.
              Start: 191
              Current: 188
              Goal: 160

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              • #8
                Re: Question about induction...

                >>probably 30 or 40 oz a day.>>

                The minimum required is 64 ounces a day.

                >>he Beef Jerky ingredients do have sugar as an ingredient, the 3rd one. I was primarily looking at how much per serving because I figured even if it is the first or last ingredient, 3g of carbs is 3g of carbs. That is probably wrong, but that was the thought process...>>

                It's not just the quantity of carbs, it's the quality, too. This is a very processed product and products like this should be limited.

                >> It may help to point out I have not read the book, although now I do intend on getting it. >>

                Good to hear.

                >>do I want a low or high CCLL?>>

                High ... it will allow you to eat more net carbs.

                >> Diet Drinks: More than 3. >>

                Not good.
                J.

                "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                • #9
                  Re: Question about induction...

                  Cool thanks for the advice. I'll make some adjustments and figure it out. I don't mind the diet too much, it would just be easier if I was at my house cooking dinner and able to choose what I eat (and able to eat more veggies or meat if I am still hungry), instead of someone choosing for me for the time being. As far as I can see, eating out is out of the question as well, so I am further limited. No biggie though, just more complaining, lol. Thanks for all the help to everyone, I'll slay this beast one way or the other.
                  Start: 191
                  Current: 188
                  Goal: 160

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                  • #10
                    Re: Question about induction...

                    >>As far as I can see, eating out is out of the question as well,>>

                    Not at all.

                    One just has to choose wisely.

                    Have you read these links:





                    Also, keep in mind that Atkins isn't a quick fix ... it's an eating plan for life.
                    J.

                    "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                    • #11
                      Re: Question about induction...

                      Must be doing something right....lost 4 pounds this week. 26 to go!
                      Start: 191
                      Current: 188
                      Goal: 160

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                      • #12
                        Re: Question about induction...

                        Way to go!!!

                        WOO WOO!


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                        • #13
                          Re: Question about induction...

                          Originally posted by jjmil03 View Post
                          Must be doing something right....lost 4 pounds this week. 26 to go!
                          Keep in mind that you can lose weight and NOT be doing Atkins correctly.
                          J.

                          "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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