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    I'm getting ready to bump to the next rung. Is the 5 carbs of extra dairy in adition to the 3-4oz (of the aged list) you are already allowed? Or should you stick to 5 carbs within all of dairy? I'm sitting here digging through the booka nd I have been interrupted too many tiems by the kids to think today. Thanks,

    Erika

    I'm looking forward to trying the cauliflower pizza!
    sigpicErika: 32y/oF, 5'8" start Atkins 6/22/08 201.6
    highest wt. 253lbs



    190 - 7/16/08
    180 - 8/16/08
    170 - 9/10/08
    164.5 10/8/08 Healthy Weight!!!
    160 - 10/31/08
    150 - 12/12/08
    148 10/2009
    147 1/2010
    146 2/20/2010
    145 -

  • #2
    Re: Dairy Rung question

    Here's what the sticky on top of this forum says you can do..
    As you hit each rung, you can add up to 5 net carbohydrates from that rung. For each food group you add, you should eat from it no more than three times the first week and monitor your body for changes. You need to give it the entire week as a couple of days may not be enough to know how a food is affecting you. You can eat from daily same food group the second week, and continue to monitor your progress.
    Bascially, adding it an addition to what you already take in if you haven't had any dairy during Induction.

    I added 5 carbs more dairy when I hit that rung, but as I think back over the past few weeks, I may only have 5 carbs of dairy in one day of my 5-8 carb dairy allowance. And I haven't been stalled or slowed down (or at least I don't think I have since I lose about 1-2 pounds a week on OWL and I'm good with that as long as it's consistant ).

    I hope that helps.
    ~Lisa~
    F, 37, 5' 7", Medium Frame
    I've been to the edge of 240something and I ain't going back!
    CW: 188
    GW: 165
    1st Goal: 180
    2nd Goal: 175
    3rd Goal: 170
    Final Goal: 165
    "You get what you put into it..."

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    • #3
      Re: Dairy Rung question

      Hi Momma,
      I thought it would be helpful to share with you this Sticky. It explains how to move up the Carbohydrate ladder. And yes, you're adding 5 more grams of carbs from that rung from what you're already allowed on Induction.

      The OWL Carbohydrate Ladder

      As you move from one rung to the next, add carbohydrate foods back into your diet in the order that follows. Adhering to this order tends to minimize blood-sugar surges that could reactivate cravings. You will find that while fat and protein will continue to be the mainstays of your diet, you will eat less of them as you add carbohydrates.

      As you choose foods from each rung on the ladder, you should choose most often from foods with a low Atkins Glycemic Ranking, or AGR. Foods with a low AGR will have the least impact on your blood sugar for each rung. The foods listed in each rung of the ladder below are examples of low AGR foods for their rung.

      *As you hit each rung, you can add up to 5 net carbohydrates from that rung. For each food group you add, you should eat from it no more than three times the first week and monitor your body for changes. You need to give it the entire week as a couple of days may not be enough to know how a food is affecting you. You can eat from daily same food group the second week, and continue to monitor your progress.

      You should only skip a rung if you do not plan on eating from it. For example, someone may have dairy allergies, so they may skip the dairy rung #2.

      If you do skip a rung, at Atkins Diet Bulletin Board we have found that it is best if you spend the time you normally would have spent for that rung before moving to the next one. This helps to give your body enough time to adjust before giving it the higher AGR foods. For example, if you normally spend three weeks on each rung, and you want to skip alcohol rung#5, then you should spend six weeks at berries rung #4 before proceeding to legumes rung #6. In the same example, if you normally spend two weeks on each rung, then you would only spend four weeks at the berries rung #4 before proceeding to the legumes rung #6.

      Your ability to add all the food groups back depends upon your Atkins Carbohydrate Equilibrium, or ACE. For example, someone that does not exercise and has a low ACE would probably not be able to add legumes back during OWL, while someone who is young, works out regularly, and has a high ACE might have no problems climbing to the top.

      Once you begin consuming alcohol on rung #5, be sure to count the carbohydrates and monitor your weight loss. Spirits have no carbohydrates, while white wine and red wine have 0.9 and 2.0 carbohydrates respectively. Alcohol will suspend weight loss as you do not burn fat while your body has alcohol to burn. If you find that you are stalled, discontinue your alcohol consumption.

      When you get to the last three rungs of the ladder, you are eating foods with the highest AGR. Make sure you do not eat those foods alone. Eat them with foods high in fat and fiber to help minimize their impact on your blood sugar.

      With fruits and vegetables, the more color they have, the more nutrition they have. If you have a choice between red grapes and white grapes, choose red. Also, be careful of dried fruit as it concentrates the natural sugar and could potentially make a small piece have as many carbohydrates as the entire fruit.



      The OWL Carbohydrate Ladder
      1. Vegetables
        More salad and other vegetables on the acceptable foods list
      2. Dairy
        Fresh cheeses:
        Cottage cheese
        Farmer’s cheese
        Ricotta cheese
        Pot cheese

        Keep portions small for:
        Hard aged cheese
        Cream, heavy and light
        Half and half
        Sour cream
        Low-carb ice cream, yogurt, and milk

      3. Seeds and Nuts
        Macadamias
        Almonds
        Peanuts/Natural Peanut Butter
        Coconut
        Sunflower seeds
        Sesame seeds
        Walnuts
        Pistachios

      4. Berries
        Eat frequently from:
        Strawberries
        Blueberries
        Blackberries
        Raspberries

        Eat moderately from higher AGR melons:
        Watermelon
        Honeydew
        Cantaloupe

      5. Wine and other spirits low in carbs
        Spirits
        White Wine
        Red Wine
        Low-carbohydrate Beer

      6. Legumes
        Lentils
        Kidney Beans
        Pinto Beans
        Black Beans
        Hummus
        Chickpeas
        Tofu
        Soybeans
        Soy milk, unsweetened

      7. Fruits other than Berries and Melons
        Plums
        Kiwis
        Peaches
        Apples
        Grapefruit
        Tangerines

      8. Starchy Vegetables
        Keep all portions small
        Carrots
        Green Peas
        Acorn squash
        Butternut squash

        Eat rarely:
        Corn
        Potatoes
        Sweet potatoes

      9. Whole Grains
        Keep all portions small and focus on whole, unprocessed grains:
        Old fashioned Oatmeal
        Oat Bran
        Wheat Bran
        Low carb (soy) bread and muffins
        All-bran
        Barley, cooked
      MOTHEREARTH AKA SHERRI "HOW THE WORLD TURNS AS I SEE IT"
      HT: 5'10.5-Highest weight-374 lbs.
      Began ATKINS 07-07-04 @ 334 lbs.
      Maintaned 101 lb. Weightloss
      New goals-New start 03-21-10 @ 273
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~inches lost~~~~
      1st mini-goal: 260
      2nd mini-goal:249
      2nd mini-goal:239
      3rd mini-goal:229
      GOAL :225




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      • #4
        Re: Dairy Rung question

        Sherri, you're quick on the draw with those fast typing fingers of yours
        ~Lisa~
        F, 37, 5' 7", Medium Frame
        I've been to the edge of 240something and I ain't going back!
        CW: 188
        GW: 165
        1st Goal: 180
        2nd Goal: 175
        3rd Goal: 170
        Final Goal: 165
        "You get what you put into it..."

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        • #5
          Re: Dairy Rung question

          LOL, thanks Lisa
          MOTHEREARTH AKA SHERRI "HOW THE WORLD TURNS AS I SEE IT"
          HT: 5'10.5-Highest weight-374 lbs.
          Began ATKINS 07-07-04 @ 334 lbs.
          Maintaned 101 lb. Weightloss
          New goals-New start 03-21-10 @ 273
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~inches lost~~~~
          1st mini-goal: 260
          2nd mini-goal:249
          2nd mini-goal:239
          3rd mini-goal:229
          GOAL :225




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          • #6
            Re: Dairy Rung question

            Thanks everyone. I see ont he nut/seed rung that peanus are listed. there is a post over in extended induction...so are peanuts (Which are really goobers and not nuts or seeds) on the nut/seed rung or the legume rung?
            sigpicErika: 32y/oF, 5'8" start Atkins 6/22/08 201.6
            highest wt. 253lbs



            190 - 7/16/08
            180 - 8/16/08
            170 - 9/10/08
            164.5 10/8/08 Healthy Weight!!!
            160 - 10/31/08
            150 - 12/12/08
            148 10/2009
            147 1/2010
            146 2/20/2010
            145 -

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            • #7
              Re: Dairy Rung question

              That's a great question, and one I believe is an error posted because peanuts are technically legumes....and legumes are OWL rung 6 and not tree nuts or seeds (OWL rung 3).
              ~Lisa~
              F, 37, 5' 7", Medium Frame
              I've been to the edge of 240something and I ain't going back!
              CW: 188
              GW: 165
              1st Goal: 180
              2nd Goal: 175
              3rd Goal: 170
              Final Goal: 165
              "You get what you put into it..."

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