Protein: too much?

[cleochatra]

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And what kind of support do they need at a go-kart forum anyway? The "Wear your seatbelt" FAQ isn't that time consuming.

[divaindubai]

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lol about the karting boards....

Rooster, don't forget to take supplements either! They strongly recommend supplements and to drink lotttttts of water along the way!

[Brook]

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Too much protein? Well, that's really open to interpretation and very individualized. I choose to eat lower fat now (didn't the first time around but find it works very well for me this time around) - which means my protein and fat %'s are upsidedown most of the time. However, that doesn't mean that I eat more protein than I did before, oddly enough. I'm generally pretty careful to space my carbs throughout the day so as to avoid a blood sugar spike, and I'm careful about the fats I use (olive oil, butter), but do choose to use some lower fat products (mixing regular and lite mayo and using lite sour cream and neufchatel cheese). It works for me. I do not find that I have blood sugar spikes and I do not find that the amounts of protein I eat cause me issue. You can see samples of my menus and things I eat in either my journal here or at my Melting Page. The blog is linked at the top.

HTHS
~Brook

[Rooster for U]

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Brook, your name fits you well I see...n-i-c-e!.....LOL. I heard on some Atkins tapes once that without the carbs or minimal I should say that the bodys liver will convert extra protein into blood sugar and create the spikes that way to. It was allways taught to me that our body can only consume 30 to 60 grams of protein in one sitting and the rest will waste.

Davaindubai, when you chucle I know you mean know harm..when I say go-kart, people think about the loud contraption going up and down their street with kids on it, yes, then it is funny...to put what I do in a better perspective there are races with 10,000 to win and I have over 15 years invested and over 20K to today invested! My one dirt kart alone has 7K in it. All forums offer wonderful friendships and great info not just this one. From those karting forums I have found lifelong "in person" friends and over the time we have created a "racing brotherhood" as we all pit together and chow too. I cannot be competitive unless I weigh 200 or less is why I have used induction many times over the years. The kart weighs 215 and I weigh 240 at a race usually and that's 455lbs....I'm allowed by the rules to be 400 and these are weight sensative, see? LOL My racing is responsible for me never just "letting go" and superceding the 300 mark like many. It has allways been my reason. Thought I would share this as my reason so you all would know me better and where I'm comin' from too. I have other reasons as well to diet but this one will make me do it!

[divaindubai]

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Rooster! You know we only live once in this life, and I say if go karting makes you happy then go for it! honestly! I was chuckling at Cleo and her sassy remarks she makes, they make me giggle! But its all in fun no harm to laugh a bit. And hey, yes that's what the Internet is also for, gaining support from others with the same interests as you, even if it is about basketweaving or something like that! And hey if you manage to make some friends off line then why not? Even if they are from a go karting board! All the more reason to celebrate!

Good luck with your weight loss Rooster! Sounds like you are motivated and determined!

[2big4mysize]

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don't forget when brook says extra protein she is talking about upping the level from 30% of her total calories which was around 1450. She is eating between premaintneance fats at 55% and OWL at 60%

57% fat/8% carb/31% protein. 27 net carbs, so that's 2 over on the carbs. Calorie total : 1453

so she had a total of only 112 grams of protein for the whole day weel inside your meal limits.

Yes her body is converting proteins it can't store in muscles and orgtans as amino acids into sugar in the liver but our livers are also comnverting the hydrocarbon backbone of our fats to that same glucose in the exact same process so having the sugar isn't the problem as there are several body parts like redblood cells that have to have sugars for fuel. The problem is if you have excess and in DANDR DR Atkins said up to 50% could be convertee os if you eat near your BMR as Brook does then her excess protein if in fact it is excess will only give her a few grams of sugar. DOn't forget Dr Atkins leaves out the part about the body only converts 2 of the 4 possible amio acids making up the peptide chains of the proteins into sugar and only one of those is an easy low energy usage then you need either less protein or more fats to stablize the blood sugar and to slow the absorbtion of the contents of your stomach.

When we do Atkins we find out we are both the scientist and the lab rat. Eash of us will have a slightly different reaction to the same meal. Learning to Manage your reractions so as to control any derailing sideeffects is what Atkins WOE is all about.

The bottom line is more converted protein longer sugar burning and less fat burning is all. Brook is happy with 2 pounds a month Are you? if not up your fats and lower your protein to the 30% levle and see. Some metabolically reistant folk have to lower their proteins to 25% and uop their fats to 75% in order to lose but you will not know for sure what your metabolic rate is until after you have done a clean 14 day initial induction and the mandatory exercise part of your Atkins. then based on the amount of weight you needed to lose and the amount you lost you can use the charts in the chapters right after chapter 11 induction ( that would be chapter 12 and 13) and see what your metabolic resistance level is and make the needed for you adjustments.

You posted you heard on a tape once how about buying DR ATKINS NEW DIET REVOLUTION 3rd edition ( copyright 2002) and use it. You will find it has the answers to most of the questions that will pop up while you are doing Atkins. Some folk refer to it as their weight loss bible.

Happy low carbing

[Rooster for U]

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Is the right book the one with the yellow back and on the front it has a big NEW on it in white over the red book? It also has a yellow strip across the top?

[cleochatra]

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Here you go

[Rooster for U]

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Hmmmm..My book is the same I bet, It's just red. It's a 2002 copywrite and it's the new diet revolution issue. It's only a year old or so. Anyone got a red one?

[wannabethintoo]

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Hmmmm..My book is the same I bet, It's just red. It's a 2002 copywrite and it's the new diet revolution issue. It's only a year old or so. Anyone got a red one?

I have a red one with yellow letters.

[Kent]

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Here's what is suggested for people doing weight-lifting -- 1.25 to 2g per day of protein per kg of lean body weight. This equates to at least 111 - 177g of protein just to recover from working out for me. I am usually in the middle of this range every day, and my numbers (although semi-adjusted for maintenance mode- 55-60/35/5-10) work out fine. Your numbers to shoot for each day have already been mentioned more than once - 65/30/5. You can find many other recommendations on the 'Net on protein intake, but this one holds the most credence with me. Eat too few, and your muscles might have problems recovering/rebuilding from the workouts.

I think you'll find that getting enough proteins is probably not the issue on this diet.

[Rooster for U]

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I'm not a lifter any more but my Jumping Jacks are becoming a serious habit in the morning now! LOL

[cleochatra]

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That's great rooster! How are you feeling?

[Rooster for U]

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I gotta tell ya, there are two things that will speed you up quick and fast. Jumping Jacks are the best aerobic exercise and is all natural. It's hard and not necessary to do them for long...two to five minutes 6 times a day will keep ya tickin' big time. I hate giving up 1 to 2 hours of my day at one stretch to relentless exercises. I always found that several shorts burst throughout the day was best for me before a contest. I also believe in the "Tony Little" Gazelle! He lives not far from us BTW..in St.Petersburg actually. You can watch TV on the Gazelle it's so quiet and it's a pendulmn type thing, once you swing it, it's automatic. Long durations on this is difficult at first. This is a fat shreader big time. I been on all of the machines. This machine is "aerobic" and used for "stretching" and increasing "range of motion"! It is also joint friendly as it does not involved joint impact like a tread mill. The Gazelle and Jumpin' jacks has my votes. LOL

[2big4mysize]

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there are plenty of studies to back up your lots of short exercise burns more fat cause you are reved up for the after exercise burn longer during the day. but jumping jacks are very very joint unfriendly.