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  • #76
    Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

    n0matter, some of the portions (like 18-20 nuts) can seem very small if you are just eating them alone... but if you mix them with other foods that you can have more of (for example, chopping the nuts and adding them to pumpkin that has been mixed with a bit of cream and splenda, maybe even adding a single egg into the mix to bulk it up and add protein, and microwaving the entire thing it until the egg is cooked and the mixture is warm) then it can be quite a sufficient quantity of the new food...

    In the same way, you could mix some beans into your chili pot, just enough that you would have the right amount of beans per serving when you ate a single serving portion...

    I find it much easier to portion control higher-rung foods as long as I know I can "fill up" on those foods that are lower-carb... just a thought.
    No stats. Not weighing anymore ever. Will post "before and after" pictures when I want to. The end.

    Vigilance, not perfection.

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    • #77
      Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

      Or with nuts, again, you could make a single-serving of cheesecake, using cream cheese, a bit of whipped cream, and splenda (or however you wanted to make a single-serving no-bake cheesecake; there are endless possibilities, really)... then you could add your 5g of nuts, and if you were doing berries, you could add a few of those on the top.

      Lots and lots of ways to incorporate something like nuts, extra veggies, berries, beans, grains (which includes popcorn ), etc... into a delicious meal that would satisfy you.
      No stats. Not weighing anymore ever. Will post "before and after" pictures when I want to. The end.

      Vigilance, not perfection.

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      • #78
        Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

        Originally posted by n0matter
        I did stipulate that I was "almost on extended induction" as a result of not really desiring to eat what is allowed during rungs 1-4. I added the veggies and I'm less cautious about dairy which I figure brings me up to the 25 carb mark. I haven't used fitday in awhile but it wouldn't surprise me if I was padding the number and I was still falling below the 20 carb mark on certain days.

        And let me iterate before I receive any number of responses about how I'm doing things wrong and haven't read the book and blah, blah, all of that other stuff you people love to spew, that I have not eaten anything I'm not allowed to up to rung 3. I just don't forcefully add 5 grams of carbs from each one every day because it doesn't appeal to me. As for portion normality...I don't recall 5 grams of anything being considered a "normal" portion since I was about 12. And I don't think 12 or 16 or however many macadamia nuts has ever filled me up before at any age. And I haven't always been overweight.

        I DO understand the gradual increase in carbs and why it's necessary. I just don't LIKE it. And I don't like the fact that you can't, say, have an additional 5 grams of lentil carbs instead of your 5 gram rung allotment and the 5 grams of nuts that you didn't feel like eating for that day. This is where the diet gets coplicated I think. Unless you're a very small person and have a ton of extra time on your hands to portion your food, it's enough to drive a person crazy.

        Hmm... how about you give up the diet?

        Seems like you have nothing better to do than ***** on a forum
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        • #79
          Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

          "I was just wondering if anyone else planned on doing something so incredibly BAD and EVIL after they'd met their own goal."

          I intend to go out and get me one gorgeous, musclebound hunk of a man and enjoy one, glorious, passionate, hot night of sheer, unadulterated, rigorous carnality, punctuated at intervals by large draughts of water.

          "Bad" enough?
          F49, 5'3"
          SW 342/CW 339/GW 200

          No chocolate 7 weeks - we are witnessing a miracle here!
          No cheats 4 weeks. Longest ever!
          No-weighing (I get too obsessed!)

          SWIMMING /WATER AEROBICS PAGE

          http://www.hastingspress.co.uk/swimnotgym.html9

          JOURNAL:

          http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36193

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          • #80
            Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

            ... oh, and when I have recovered and can walk again, I want to

            + play badminton
            + run uphill (I can barely stagger up hill at present)
            + reach every part of my body while in the shower
            + bend my knee & lift my foot to tie my shoelaces (haven't done that for 30 years)
            + use the seatbelt in my friend's car (It won't shut at present!)
            + wear stockings and suspenders
            + go to the cinema and theatre again (I cannot fit in the seats)
            + run up the stairs of my house hands-free (I currently haul myself up with the rail)

            Helena
            F49, 5'3"
            SW 342/CW 339/GW 200

            No chocolate 7 weeks - we are witnessing a miracle here!
            No cheats 4 weeks. Longest ever!
            No-weighing (I get too obsessed!)

            SWIMMING /WATER AEROBICS PAGE

            http://www.hastingspress.co.uk/swimnotgym.html9

            JOURNAL:

            http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36193

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            • #81
              Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

              Originally posted by n0matter
              I did stipulate that I was "almost on extended induction" as a result of not really desiring to eat what is allowed during rungs 1-4. I added the veggies and I'm less cautious about dairy which I figure brings me up to the 25 carb mark. I haven't used fitday in awhile but it wouldn't surprise me if I was padding the number and I was still falling below the 20 carb mark on certain days.

              And let me iterate before I receive any number of responses about how I'm doing things wrong and haven't read the book and blah, blah, all of that other stuff you people love to spew, that I have not eaten anything I'm not allowed to up to rung 3. I just don't forcefully add 5 grams of carbs from each one every day because it doesn't appeal to me. As for portion normality...I don't recall 5 grams of anything being considered a "normal" portion since I was about 12. And I don't think 12 or 16 or however many macadamia nuts has ever filled me up before at any age. And I haven't always been overweight.

              I DO understand the gradual increase in carbs and why it's necessary. I just don't LIKE it. And I don't like the fact that you can't, say, have an additional 5 grams of lentil carbs instead of your 5 gram rung allotment and the 5 grams of nuts that you didn't feel like eating for that day. This is where the diet gets coplicated I think. Unless you're a very small person and have a ton of extra time on your hands to portion your food, it's enough to drive a person crazy.
              maybe it would help if you read our OWL stickies we have modified OWL where you hold your carb level artifically low and sub new rungs for old rungs as you keep the carbs at a preset levle but get the rung foods you want.

              you can also do more then one time on a rung. had 5 net carbs of nuts no sugar symptoms or weightloss issues with them? add another rung and do a branching ladder. you can do 1,2,3,3,3,4,4,5,6,6,7,7,8,8,9 or any other conbination of them if your metabolism can haddle all of them and all of those carbs.inorder to get the 115 I needed and the 100+ loonatkia needed when we did OWL we had many mnay servings a day of the rungs. working out as hard as we did our bodies could handle it.
              As yiou know you are only limited to 5 net carbs of the stuff in each addition of the stuff as a safety precaution as in small amounts the new to you food groups damage can be quickly compensated for if it does any damage to you.

              There are many things about Atkins plan that we don't like but when we commit to doing something we do the good and the bad parts cause we are doing that plan if we only do the part we like we aren't doing that plan we are doing our own creation and health results are unknown for that plan as there isn;t any data.

              Oh and in 3 yrs answering questions here the opposite is true. The majority of folk have not even looked at the book when they arrive here. they have heard about the plan based on their friend's mother's brother's cousin's success doing it and try to do it that way. I can't tell you how many posts it took to convence Cleochatra when she arrive here doing atkins her uncle's way that multiple daily servings of frankenfoods and caffeine were not the way to do Atkins. once she got it corrected she became a very big loser
              by the book atkinseer

              started 6/1/02 at 313
              goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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              • #82
                Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

                Originally posted by n0matter
                I did stipulate that I was "almost on extended induction" as a result of not really desiring to eat what is allowed during rungs 1-4. I added the veggies and I'm less cautious about dairy which I figure brings me up to the 25 carb mark. I haven't used fitday in awhile but it wouldn't surprise me if I was padding the number and I was still falling below the 20 carb mark on certain days.
                Induction and the other Phases are very specificially defined in the book (sorry for using a phrase that is hurtful to you). And we have to use that specific definition here on ADBB as well in order to avoid confusing members and to be consistent with the book.

                Induction, as per the book, is the phase in which you maintain a maximum of 20 net carbs daily, following the Rules of Induction listed in Chapter 11.

                OWL, as per the book, is the phase in which you increase your carbohydrate level in 5 net carb intervals. Pre-Maintenance is the phase in which you increase your carb level by 10 net carbs.

                If you've increased your carbs by adding veggies and dairy, then you've moved onto some form of OWL or Pre-Maintenance Phase.

                Again, this might seem "nitpicky" to you, but it is absolutely necessary for us here on ADBB in order to 1. give you accurate information and 2. avoid confusing other members.

                And let me iterate before I receive any number of responses about how I'm doing things wrong and haven't read the book and blah, blah, all of that other stuff you people love to spew, that I have not eaten anything I'm not allowed to up to rung 3. I just don't forcefully add 5 grams of carbs from each one every day because it doesn't appeal to me. As for portion normality...I don't recall 5 grams of anything being considered a "normal" portion since I was about 12. And I don't think 12 or 16 or however many macadamia nuts has ever filled me up before at any age. And I haven't always been overweight.
                I hope you will re-read this part of your post and see how not knowing "normal" portions can contribute to obesity. Are there people who can eat 36 hotdogs and 15 bags of chips daily who don't gain weight? Sure there are. But they tend to be young people (teens and early 20s) who have excellent metabolisms.

                As we get older our metabolisms slow down, so yeah, if we don't exercise we will gain weight, but if we keep stuffing our faces with more food than our bodies require, well gain weight too. Since we are on a weight loss diet, it's painfully obvious that we have metabolisms that are sensitive to too much food and too little exercise.

                I believe you wrote in another post that you only gained weight because you stopped exercising. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that implies you kept eating the same amount of food and gained weight from that excess food and lack of exercise.

                If we want to maintain weight, we have 3 choices:
                1. eat less food, and exercise less.
                2. eat more food, and exercise more.
                3. eat moderate amounts of food and exercise moderately.

                So if you want to eat more (ie: larger servings) then you must commit to do the amount of exercise to burn up those larger servings of food. That is do-able. Until you run into a complication that will prevent you from exercising, like illness or injury. Then what? You'll either refuse to adjust your portion sizes and bloat to elephant size and go through the headache of losing weight again. Or you learn how to eat "normally" from the get go and increase your chances of ballooning if you can't make it to the gym for a week.

                I DO understand the gradual increase in carbs and why it's necessary. I just don't LIKE it. And I don't like the fact that you can't, say, have an additional 5 grams of lentil carbs instead of your 5 gram rung allotment and the 5 grams of nuts that you didn't feel like eating for that day. This is where the diet gets coplicated I think. Unless you're a very small person and have a ton of extra time on your hands to portion your food, it's enough to drive a person crazy.
                Nowhere does it say in the OWL or Pre-Maintenance chapters that you have to eat all the rungs every single day. I know my CCLL. I've gone through the rungs I wanted to eat. Based on my CCLL, I decide what I eat.

                BTW, I don't buy that "measuring food takes sooooooo much time" nonsense either. It doesn't take 2 hours to use a measuring cup to scoop out a serving of food. I use measuring cups like these as serving spoons:


                And in a pinch, I eat out of them too, like my 5 net carb serving of cottage cheese this morning. My breakfast dishwashing was 2 items: the measuring cup and a teaspoon.

                It's up to you to decide if you are worth spending the time to measure your food. If 10 secs is more important than you are, whatever.
                ~Megs~
                242/141/160 (130)
                dress size 26/10/8
                5'4", Female, May 2, 2003
                My blog:
                http://mformiscellaneous.blogspot.com/

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                • #83
                  Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

                  One thing I learned long ago is that you can never win an argument with Megs and 2big. These ladies know their stuff

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                  • #84
                    Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?


                    I've had an issue with this since day #1 and many "read-the-bookers", as I refer to them now, are condescending and harbor a much spunkier, snooty attitude than I could ever manage to reproduce.
                    I'd have to disagree with this statement. You don't seem to want any help and that's fine. I believe the only reason any members are wasting any of their time on this thread is because newbies might read it and get confused. Personally I think you should go write your own book. Is my attitude spunky and snooty enough for ya?
                    Female, 46yrs, 5'3"

                    Restarted Atkins 09/19/05
                    Re-restarted Atkins 03/12/07

                    SW198.5/CW215/GW150







                    Slug Free 6WEC#21 & 22 & 23

                    "Superhuman willpower is not required to do Atkins, only the wisdom to put yourself into a position where you won't need it."

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                    • #85
                      Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

                      One thing I learned long ago is that you can never win an argument with Megs and 2big. These ladies know their stuff


                      lol You've argued with them Miss Phode? No, I definitely want them on my side, that's for sure. They are my idols.
                      Female, 46yrs, 5'3"

                      Restarted Atkins 09/19/05
                      Re-restarted Atkins 03/12/07

                      SW198.5/CW215/GW150







                      Slug Free 6WEC#21 & 22 & 23

                      "Superhuman willpower is not required to do Atkins, only the wisdom to put yourself into a position where you won't need it."

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                      • #86
                        Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

                        I'd have to disagree with this statement. You don't seem to want any help and that's fine. I believe the only reason any members are wasting any of their time on this thread is because newbies might read it and get confused. Personally I think you should go write your own book. Is my attitude spunky and snooty enough for ya?
                        You my friend Lady

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                        • #87
                          Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

                          Originally posted by Frustrated
                          "I was just wondering if anyone else planned on doing something so incredibly BAD and EVIL after they'd met their own goal."

                          I intend to go out and get me one gorgeous, musclebound hunk of a man and enjoy one, glorious, passionate, hot night of sheer, unadulterated, rigorous carnality, punctuated at intervals by large draughts of water.

                          "Bad" enough?
                          What a great idea! Maybe I can start running a lot, so when I reach goal I'll be able to catch one of these:
                          ~Susan
                          49/f 5'7" Start 2-27-06 SW222/11-18-09 @ 160-ish/G135-150ish??

                          Doin Miles, Flights, & Kid Ketchin'...
                          2 Ab Chal's; 6WEC#27 slug-Free; & more; 50# LOST in'06-
                          but regained ~20# in '07 in less than 3 weeks! And again early '08 ...Was in HEAVEN -got to 150, for awhile, then got too busy, and gave in too much... and... OK holding pattern "keep it together..."

                          .................OMG how did I fail AGAIN
                          (((on temporary break)))
                          Sigh ... I'll be back... life isn't always fair 10-07-09

                          "Goal: First you have to dream of it. Then you have to do it." Author unknown

                          sheesh

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                          • #88
                            Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

                            But don't you find Boonie, that when a man makes himself bigger all over like that, that other ummm body parts look kinda smaller in comparison? On the other hand, who cares! Let's go get us some low-carb beefcake. Yum!
                            Female, 46yrs, 5'3"

                            Restarted Atkins 09/19/05
                            Re-restarted Atkins 03/12/07

                            SW198.5/CW215/GW150







                            Slug Free 6WEC#21 & 22 & 23

                            "Superhuman willpower is not required to do Atkins, only the wisdom to put yourself into a position where you won't need it."

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                            • #89
                              Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

                              Originally posted by ladyinred
                              But don't you find Boonie, that when a man makes himself bigger all over like that, that other ummm body parts look kinda smaller in comparison? On the other hand, who cares! Let's go get us some low-carb beefcake. Yum!
                              I'm with you, girlfriend. I'm not promising to limit portion size however; some guys really do pump ALL over!
                              ~Susan
                              49/f 5'7" Start 2-27-06 SW222/11-18-09 @ 160-ish/G135-150ish??

                              Doin Miles, Flights, & Kid Ketchin'...
                              2 Ab Chal's; 6WEC#27 slug-Free; & more; 50# LOST in'06-
                              but regained ~20# in '07 in less than 3 weeks! And again early '08 ...Was in HEAVEN -got to 150, for awhile, then got too busy, and gave in too much... and... OK holding pattern "keep it together..."

                              .................OMG how did I fail AGAIN
                              (((on temporary break)))
                              Sigh ... I'll be back... life isn't always fair 10-07-09

                              "Goal: First you have to dream of it. Then you have to do it." Author unknown

                              sheesh

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                              • #90
                                Re: How do you plan to celebrate when you reach your goal weight?

                                LOL can't wait to see the pics of you two's celebration.
                                by the book atkinseer

                                started 6/1/02 at 313
                                goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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