Profound Outburst from HeidiE ....ready?

[ValidRouge]

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Start "hanging out" with Julirama and Lyssie. They are mad exercise machines...and their enthusiasm is contagious LOL

[HeidiE]

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Joy you look freaking amazing!!!! good for you girl!!!! REPRESENTING!!!!!

[OBob]

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This is a great post.

Atkins makes sense to me because it treats sugar (white flour, etc.) as an addiction, and addiction is something I know very very well.

In evaluating my behavior with certain foods, there is no question in my mind what drives me to eat the way I do. I am a well-adjusted person who's had a wonderful family life from as early as I can remember. I don't have psychological issues that drive me to eat. I don't hate myself.

When I buy a pint of ice cream, it doesn't make it to the freezer. If I start on Cheez-its, it's all I can do to get them in quick enough. Big bag of Lays sour cream and onion chips - what gets put away is usually just crumbs, and I generally break those back out before long. I bake 8 muffins - I eat 6 in 10 minutes, and give the other 2 to whomever's around... if they're not around, I eat 8. Pizza - my wife eats 2 slices of the large we buy, and I eat the rest. Chocolate chip cookies - by the dozen.

There is a physical rush that comes with these binges. When I pay attention to it, I realize that I actually feel high. Once I start, I simply can't control what goes in. And, until the last 2 weeks, I couldn't control starting either. Going through sugar withdrawals at the beginning of induction was physically miserable. It clarified even further that I'm dealing with an addiction. With the benefit of 10 days of induction under my belt, and the absence of physical cravings that comes with that, it clarifies it even further.

This is about fighting addiction, and the best way to fight addiction (as Atkins says explicitly in the book) is abstinence. I guess as I get into OWL, I'll discover more about just what specific foods trigger my addiction. That's a little scary to me, as I don't want to trip across the one that has me salivating like a hyena for a quart of Rocky Road. But, I'm excited about that learning process all the same, and I'll be ready to tackle it when I get there.

Thanks for the post Heidie. Well said.

OBob (17 pounds lighter)

[HeidiE]

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OBob ...that was so brillaintly written ...Thank you for posting ...I really appreciate it!!!

[HeidiE]

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I keep reading these posts and am so grateful I came back here
thank you so much!!!

[OBob]

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I too was one of those people who would taste something like cookie dough off my finger, and before I knew it, I was eating spoonfuls of dough. And when the cookies would come out of the oven, I'd be eating them before they'd even cooled. By the time they'd cooled a couple dozen would be gone and I didn't even realize it...

I could have written this. I've lived every last word of it. Those things just need about 15 seconds of cooling (if you take the foil off of the baking sheet so they cool from underneath) in order to be viable to scoop off with a spatula without leaving any of the precious cookie stuck to the foil.

[ValidRouge]

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Heidi, thank you! YOU LOOK FREAKIN AMAZING too girl!

OBob, excellent post!! I know what you mean about fearing a food that makes you salivate like a hyena. I've dealt with foods that make me want to go dumpster diving. Seriously...talk about addiction.

I dug up another post that's old, but between this post by Heidi which deals with the addiction, and this other post, I just feel GUNG HO tonight. Here's the other post http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...read.php?t=386

[Qjakal]

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This is about fighting addiction, and the best way to fight addiction (as Atkins says explicitly in the book) is abstinence.

OBob (17 pounds lighter)

This is what makes food addictions the scariest ones of all and potentially the most deadly.

The "stuff" is legal
The "stuff" is accessible
The "stuff" is (in some forms) necessary to live. You can survive without cocaine, nicotine, alcohol,etc., but you cannot go cold turkey on food and liquid.

I *try* to look at it as a challenge...we have to have more discipline then other metabolic types. I had a business partner a decade ago or so who had no tolerance for obesity, mostly because his metabolic setup allowed him to eat everything without significant weight changes. Of course his father and uncles all died in their early 50's from heart diseases, but at *least they weren't fat*. Always got a kick out of that ignorant statement.

Yup...it's a disease and the cure is a long and difficult one for oh so many different reasons.

Good luck to you,me, and everyone else who struggles with it.

Q

[swimr4]

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That is so true. I have struggled with my addiction to sugar and junk food all of my life. For psychological reasons too: when i was growing up my mom was a health food nut. I lived in a home with no Oreos or potato chips or ham or white bread so when I was out I binged since to me these things were in very limited supply. Even in my 20's when I was married and had my own home, I still binged on these "forbidden" foods since I was so accustomed to only seeing them for limited amounts of time. I had to speak out loud to myself :OK, you are 24 years old and can buy your own (whatever) when its gone you can get more so stop shoving it down your throat" Obviously even that self talk didn't work. Since on this program I have noticed that I still would love to have those "forbidden" foods but if I can't, I really don't care, I'll just have something else. Amazing!

[julirama723]

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Just wanted to say this is a GREAT thread, and it's almost scary, how easily I can relate to EVERYTHING that's been written.

Especially that "high" that OBob speaks of...you can't think straight until you get that fix, and by the time you realize what you've done, you feel awful, you've got a headache and a stomach ache, and you hate yourself. Often I'd end up hating myself for what I'd done, and the only think I could think of (or NOT think about, rather) to do was to eat MORE to dull the pain. Get another high.

What's so sad is that I feel like a lot of this could have been avoided if my parents had been better examples. I remember seeing them as children and being struck by certain imagery--thinking they were chipmunks. Each curled up in their recliners, fat and pudgy, their little paws constantly in their faces, stuffing whatever food they were nibbling on into their mouths. But even then, if they'd been health nuts, I probably would have gone "off the leash" like Swimr4 talks about and I would have just binged on junk. I mean, that's what I did in college--and I had no excuses. I was buying my own food, I was perpetuating this for myself!

[swimr4]

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Hi Julie....you and I have some stuff in common.I am also 5'8' ....I am being a bit daring making my goal 170...I don't know if I'LL HAVE to tweak that the closer I get to it. You're a teacher too, right????????????????? Shouldn't you be working??? I know I should.
I almost had an incident yesterday with a container of Christmas cookies but I read on a post somewhere to dump the food and pour water on it. that's what I did! My dog however, was very disappointed. Oh well!

[boonie stomper]

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Touché , Heidie!!


I'll bet the fast food, kid's cereal and candy industries (and a few others) just adore you!!!

[divaindubai]

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Great post Heidi Good to see you again as always.

[HeidiE]

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Touché , Heidie!!


I'll bet the fast food, kid's cereal and candy industries (and a few others) just adore you!!!

Fkers ...you know what pisses me off ...how come I can eat an ENTIRE BOX of Frosted flakes and still be hungry????? HUH??? it is because white flour with sugar sprayed with topical vitamins ..is not food!!! and get this... I used to put sugar on them!!!
but give me some queso fresco with eggs and green chiles and I forget about food until I need to eat again ...DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

[HeidiE]

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Great post Heidi Good to see you again as always.

good to see you sweet girl

I have been nuts this year!!! overwhelmed tired and off the wall!!! New Years Resolution ...."calm the Helll down" OOOXXX