Anyone try 5 hour energy?

[ttdriver]

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As far as the feeling tired, it is simple nutrition. When you restrict carbs, you will not have as much energy. Carbohydrates in itself stores and transports energy, and is the most common source of energy. Fat and protein also add energy to the body but not near the amount that carbs do. In fact, Dietary guidlines reccomend that we get about 60% - 70% of our energy from Carbs. This is not opinion - this is fact. I love the Atkins diet and I believe it works - however many people will feel more drained on it than usual.

I've been on Atkins since 1/19/2002, having been in maintenance for the past 5 years. I'm also a marathon runner on LC. My running performance has never suffered because I eat LC.

Carbs are NOT the athletic fuel of choice: FAT is. While it is true initially that your body will feel fatigued and sluggish while you are DETOXING from the high carbohydrate/sugar in your body, once you begin to BURN FAT for fuel, your energy levels will return. Combined with lean proteins and healthy fats, you will feel more energetic than ever before. The switch to fat burning can take a week or longer in most folks, but once complete, energy levels soar.

Betty

[LCer09]

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Yes I have read the book and I do understand ketosis and lipolysis. In fact the book clearly states that it takes MORE energy to burn fat (this woe) than it takes to burn carbs.

So the "more energy" wouldn't be derived from burning off more fat (be it body fat or dietary fat), it would automitically just be drained out of our lifeless, carb-deprived bodies?

[Chicklady]

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Lol :d

[Hoping]

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I don't have the scientific facts to back up my statement, buuuut I think that if you're accustomed to or have been exposed to these energy drinks previously and now you've stopped drinking these products then maybe just maybe that's why you feel drained. You're probably addicted to caffeine.
I feel great without sugar or caffeine. Are you drinking plenty of water as well? I feel like it really helps. JMO.

[kate58]

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Re reading my original post it does seem snippy - I really didn't intend it to, and I am sorry for that.

the book clearly states that it takes MORE energy to burn fat

Yes, and that's a nice litte side benefit when you want to lose weight, but it is unrelated to the amount of energy you have for activity. Your body can get as much energy as it needs from burning fat without any difficulty. It's a different mechanism than burning carbs, but can put out the energy just fine.

you will not have AS MUCH energy on this WOE (induction) as you will when eating a large amount of carbs. That is fact.

You may have less energy during the early stages of induction, while you body adjusts to using fat as its primary fuel, but that is just a matter of days, after that you will have plenty of energy.

Thanks for the link. If you read the bit there about nutrition, it sums it all up pretty nicely -

Carbohydrates are not essential nutrients: the body can obtain all its energy from protein and fats. The brain cannot burn fat and needs glucose for energy, but the body can make this glucose from protein.

I already know a fair bit about carbohydrates, having studied it as part of my degree. In fact given that I had the benefit of that background it TOTALLY baffles me now why I didn't realise the lack of evidence that existed for all the stuff I had read about good diet (ie low fat, high carb was the way to go), when even a cursory knowlefge of the basic science actually contradicts that advice.

Reading DrA's book, then doing a lot of personal research in the literature, then reading Gary Taubes book has been quite a journey and I now know that much, if not most, of what is written about the place of fat and carbohydrate in our diets is not just somewhat inaccurate, it is just plain wrong. One of most inaccurate things is the contantly repeated fallacy that for energy we need lots of carbs. It simply isn't so.

I don't blame you for believing what you do - it comes at us from everywhere and often from what should be very reliable and respected sources, so it's hard to decide not to believe it. But a lot of it, maybe most of it, simply isn't true.

I don't remember having as much energy ever as I do now, having radically cut the carbs and totally eliminated the caffeine. Mind you, dropping 50 lbs has helped considerably!! Not having to carry around so much excess weight is energising in itself - losing weight gives you the most energy of all, no amount of carbs or caffeine or energy drinks will alleviate the burden of those extra pounds.

[jimmie 48]

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Is it OK for Atkins induction? It has 0 net carbs and lots of vitamins. Here is the nutrition info:

that was the original question. if you're on induction, the answer is no. the product in question has caffeine.

[Mirya]

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We are suposed to be cutting off caffiene, stimulant, sugars, and carbs in the 2 weeks induction. If you have the 2002 edition of DANDR it states clearly DECAFFIENATED..... I personally am saying NO based on what Dr. Atkins says abotu caffiene/stimulants.

I think this is a BAD BAD BAD idea. I won't even touch coffee after the withdrawl effect it had one me and I'll be if I tried something like those. I used to kill red bull before and I wouldn't even consider it now. Im sorry but the withdrawl symptoms are not worth the short term, potentially deadly effects you get from stimulants.

[daquix]

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I've been on Atkins since 1/19/2002, having been in maintenance for the past 5 years. I'm also a marathon runner on LC. My running performance has never suffered because I eat LC.

Carbs are NOT the athletic fuel of choice: FAT is. While it is true initially that your body will feel fatigued and sluggish while you are DETOXING from the high carbohydrate/sugar in your body, once you begin to BURN FAT for fuel, your energy levels will return. Combined with lean proteins and healthy fats, you will feel more energetic than ever before. The switch to fat burning can take a week or longer in most folks, but once complete, energy levels soar.

Betty

I have NEVER heard of the athletic fuel choice being fat, at all. It could possibly be the stamina fuel of choice (I have no idea, just guessing). I played football for years and besides you can ask any professional athlete. What do they eat before the game? Pasta, bread ... etc. Carbs. I love this WOE, but to say that you will get the same amount of energy off of 20g of net carbs as you would 350 carbs, is simply ridiculous.

http://www.womenssportsfoundation.org/cgi-bin/iowa/sports/article.html?record=19

Now folks, I just thought of something that may be throwing a few of us off. We are talking about INDUCTION ONLY. Not the entire weight loss (OWL) or pre-maint. or maintenance.

[LCer09]

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I love this WOE, but to say that you will get the same amount of energy off of 20g of net carbs as you would 350 carbs, is simply ridiculous.

No joke. I have FAR more energy on 20g then I ever did when I was scarfing down 350g.

[daquix]

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First of all, I would like to apologize to everyone I was arguing with in this thread. In the few days since I posted this thread my energy has gone up quite a bit. Pretty crazy huh? It is at the same level, or a little bit higher than pre-Atkins. Once again, I apologize.

I do however, still not see the scientific reasoning for this as I look into a lot of carb and fat metabolizing articles and try to reason it out, but oh well. For right now, I guess I'm just going to have to leave it as a wonder of science until I can put the pieces together.

[sadie147]

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First of all, I would like to apologize to everyone I was arguing with in this thread. In the few days since I posted this thread my energy has gone up quite a bit. Pretty crazy huh? It is at the same level, or a little bit higher than pre-Atkins. Once again, I apologize.

I do however, still not see the scientific reasoning for this as I look into a lot of carb and fat metabolizing articles and try to reason it out, but oh well. For right now, I guess I'm just going to have to leave it as a wonder of science until I can put the pieces together.

I found an article you might be interested in. http://www.nutritionandmetabolism.com/content/1/1/2 it's pretty lengthly and in depth, but interesting as it's not a low carb diet site. i haven't read it all but here's a bit of it I found interesting (sorry it's so long):

Although high-carbohydrate diets might be more effective in short-term tests of high-intensity exercise, there are multiple clues in the published literature that the debilitating effects of ketogenic diets are overstated. Not only is there the demographic evidence that whole populations of people lived for millennia as hunters, but there are many reports of Europeans crossing over to live within the cultures of these hunting societies without apparent impediment.

One of the earliest documented demonstrations of physical stamina during a ketogenic diet was the Schwatka 1878–80 expedition in search of the lost Royal Navy Franklin expedition. The Schwatka expedition, sponsored by the New York Herald and the American Geographical Society, departed from the west coast of Hudson's Bay in April of 1879 with 4 Caucasians, 3 families of Inuits, and 3 heavily laden dog sleds. Totaling 18 people, they started out with a month's supply of food (mostly walrus blubber) and a prodigious supply of ammunition for their hunting rifles. After covering over 3000 miles on foot over ice, snow and tundra, all 18 members of the original party plus their 44 dogs returned to Hudson's Bay in March of 1880. Once their initial provisions were depleted, the expedition's only source of additional food was hunting and fishing, as there were no other sources of supply along their route.

The leader of this expedition, Lt. Frederick Schwatka, was a graduate of both West Point and Bellevue Hospital Medical College. His summary of the expedition was published as a news article in the New York Herald in the Fall of 1880, but his written diary was lost for 85 years until its discovery and publication by the Marine Historical Association of Mystic CT in 1965 [6]. This fascinating 117-page saga describes how Schwatka, a frontiersman and U.S. Army surgeon, collaborated with his Inuit guides to accomplish a remarkable feat of physical endurance.

In one notation, Schwatka provides an interesting insight into his weaning from their initial supply of carbohydrate-containing food.

"When first thrown wholly upon a diet of reindeer meat, it seems inadequate to properly nourish the system, and there is an apparent weakness and inability to perform severe exertive fatiguing journeys. But this soon passes away in the course of two or three weeks."

This observation, written a century before the current author first came to grips with the issue of "keto-adaptation", offers an early clue to resolve the dichotomy between impaired performance with low carbohydrate diets in the laboratory and their lack of debilitating effects when taken among people practiced in their use. That Schwatka was not impaired by his prolonged experience eating meat and fat is evidenced by his diary entry for the period 12–14 March 1880, during which he and an Inuit companion walked the last 65 miles in less than 48 hours to make a scheduled rendezvous with a whaling ship and complete his journey home.

[Mirya]

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it partly has to do with the fact that you have a ton of different chemicals and trapped carb like things in your fat. So esentially as its burned it is being treated as carbs are. The big problem i have with lots of carbs is simply that no matter who you are.... you eat a bunch of carbs and youll crash just as hard. I have never felt this good or this clear headed in my life. it took day 19 to really et here but its worth it. just waiting for the energy burst.

[klexen]

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that was the original question. if you're on induction, the answer is no. the product in question has caffeine.

Is this drink ok when not in induction?

[jimmie 48]

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Is this drink ok when not in induction?

IF caffeine doens't bother you or slow your loss
IF drinking this product does not keep you from drinking your water

then i guess you could drink it past induction but as per the information posted in post number 2, i would still quesiton 'why'.

[makinbiscuits]

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most of that energy boost is gonna come from the 500mg of B12. That's a huge amount. Your pee will be glowing bright neon yellow shortly after you drink one of these.

Just start taking a vitamin B complex. A good B complex does a great job of helping convert food into energy (hence the energy boost). It's also good for your immune system.