getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

[love777]

Ok i was super strict this entire weekend.
But yesterday becaues I had to volunteer all day at this concession stand the only thing there was for me to eat was a johnsonville braut foot long. And maybe cuz I had two of them it set me back? That's 4 carbs for each and I didn't go over 20 for the entire day?

but I haven't lost a single pound?!

Need encouragement.

also i hate some pork grinds I thought that was ok?

avocado is fine too right?

[barrnone]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

deep breath - shake it off - it's ONLY day 3.

You did great. Brats are ok, no bun correct? Pork rinds are fine, so is avocado - just need to watch portion.

So, today - eat on plan and drink lots of water! You can do it!

[sports]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

please stay off the scales and on the diet - check your weight after 2 weeks and read 'dr atkins new diet revolution' i can assure you you will have a lovely surprise

good luck

[love777]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

ok maybe it's portion. Cuz i ate two foot long brats!
ughh I have commited to 2 weeks for sure to see how it goes.
it's so hard to stay off the scale

is summer sausage ok? i want to be sure I'm eating the right stuff I printed a list from the atkins site but just making sure it says 2 carbs per serving.

[liv]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

We do not follow the Atkins site here. We follow the book. They do not. So there will be some differences. Here we will tell you to ONLY eat what is on the allowed list IN THE BOOK.

So according to the book eating sausages with illegal ingredients (such as sugars) is NOT OK.

I am taking from this that you do not have the book. I really recommend buying it and reading it. You are in for a life long journey - it is good to arm your self with knowledge.

Here is the list from the book - FOLLOW IT TO THE T. There are no exceptions.

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-low-carb-dieting-faqs/6781-what-foods-can-eaten-induction.html

AND always be prepared. THAT means you pack food and take it with you if you need to.

And you do not have a lot to lose so don't expect any miracles. Atkins is about being healthy. It is not about being super thin.

[love777]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

Ok actually that list is pretty close to the one on the atkins site
i do have the book - i need to reread it just have school for 3 more weeks so i've been bombarded with homework which I have to put first but I want to start this now.

I dont see avocado on there? so should not eat that or pork grinds huh?

What do you guys eat as a substitute for popcorn/chips?

[atkinsgal08]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

Avocado is a Special Catergory food. It's not on the list of Induction vegetables, but it's legal ... 1/2 per day.

>> What do you guys eat as a substitute for popcorn/chips?>>

Neither of these were foods I ate a lot of before Atkins, so I don't need a "substitute" for them. My own experience is that food "substitutes" don't work to change my habits or my thinking about food. A low carb food has to be good on it's own. For example, my "dragon" was chocolate. I realized early on that I couldn't replace my habit with a low carb version ... I simply wasn't correcting any bad habits. So ... I made a clean break with chocolate.

If you like pork rinds, then eat them (watch out for the flavored kinds, they generally have sugar). If you don't like them, then don't eat them.

[RosieC]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

Avocado is in the special category foods near the end of the list. Half of a small avocado maximum per day.

Pork rinds are fine, but they have a lot of calories, so if you are really eating a huge amount they might make a difference.

Are you drinking the water? 8 x 8oz glasses minimum per day

[barrnone]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

instead of popcorn/chips - make a plate of pickles/olives/cheese. Or, you can microwave cheese for a crunchy cracker-like snack. Or a selection of fresh [crunch] veggies! All sorts of things you can do...but trying to duplicate, won't work. I totally gave up popcorn and chips [obviously] - since that's why I'm here

Give it some time, your cravings will subside and you won't even think about those things anymore...think health...be happy!

[bizzlekitty]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

One other thing to watch with sausage (besides sugars, nitrates, other fillers etc.) is while is may be low in carbs, the serving size matters alot. So 2 feet of bratwurst could be alot of servings!

The key to doing Atkins is to do your best to prepare for Real Life situations where we might not have access to the foods on the acceptable food list. There's lots of good information on this in the book and here on the boards.

We all run into these situations and try to make the best of them. Take this as a learning lesson and keep on truckin'!

[love777]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

i love them actually just didn't know if such foods was legal.

avacado is low in carbs but high in calories. but 1/2 a day is ok? maybe I will make it 1/4 just to be safe. it's yummy on taco salad.

Here is my typical menu for this week can you guys critique?

early AM snack - 5:30 am when I get to work - 2oz salami or 3 slices fat free ham plus a string cheese
breakfast - 2 sunny side or 2 scrambled w/cheedar cheese (1 slice) plus 1 sausage patty
snack - 2 celery stawks with parmazan/spinach spread 2 tbs only
lunch - 1 portion of steak plus one portion of veggies either mushrooms or cucumber with 2 tbs sour cream
snack - 2 eggs with a little cream cheese, butter, splenda, cinnamin either made like a muffin or pankcakes
dinner - taco salad with 1 portion ground turkey, romain salad, 4 peporcorchiniis, sour cream, salsa, 1/4 avocado
jello

[atkinsgal08]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

>> early AM snack - 5:30 am when I get to work - 2oz salami or 3 slices fat free ham plus a string cheese
breakfast - 2 sunny side or 2 scrambled w/cheedar cheese (1 slice) plus 1 sausage patty
snack - 2 celery stawks with parmazan/spinach spread 2 tbs only
lunch - 1 portion of steak plus one portion of veggies either mushrooms or cucumber with 2 tbs sour cream
snack - 2 eggs with a little cream cheese, butter, splenda, cinnamin either made like a muffin or pankcakes
dinner - taco salad with 1 portion ground turkey, romain salad, 4 peporcorchiniis, sour cream, salsa, 1/4 avocado
jello>>

What are the net carbs of your food?

Was the jello sugar free?

Was the salsa sugar free?

Are you making the scrambled eggs yourself or are you buying them already made?

>> avacado is low in carbs but high in calories.>>

Atkins isn't about counting calories ... I know it's hard to stop thinking that way though!

[love777]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

yes making my own eggs
yes sugar free jello
not sure about the salsa though but I only use 2 tbsps

the sepciality foods say:Special Category Foods
To add variety, each day you can also eat 10 to 20 olives, half a small avocado, an ounce of sour cream or three ounces of unsweetened heavy cream, as well as two to three tablespoons of lemon juice or lime juice. But be aware that these foods occasionally slow down weight loss in some people, and may need to be avoided in the first two weeks. If you seem to be losing slowly, moderate your intake of these foods.

does this mean I should cut out sour cream and avocados for now in the 1st two weeks?
maybe I should not have taco salad and no cucumbers with sour cream. Is cucumbers in white vinegar ok?
i really want ot make the most of my 1st two weeks.

[sporty]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

These are the foods in Chapter 11 of "Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution", 2002 (DANDR 2002)
Note: Bars, shakes and other low carb foods are not included in the foods as listed on the "How To Do Atkins" part of the website. If you choose to use them that is your personal choice. If you aren't happy with your weight loss then stop eating those foods and see what happens. There isn't any way to redo your induction because the opportunity is already used up. Make educated decisions about any food you put in your mouth while doing induction and any other phase of Atkins. Know those carb counts before you eat it. And for those that don't bother to read the book, liberally doesn't mean stuff yourself, it means eat enough to satisfy your hunger and stop.

Acceptable Foods

These are the foods you may eat liberally during Induction:
all fish, all fowl, all shellfish, all meat, all eggs

*Oysters and mussels are higher in carbs than other shellfish, so limit them to four ounces per day.

**Processed meats, such as ham, bacon, pepperoni, salami, hot dogs and other luncheon meats and some fish may be cured with added sugar and will contribute carbs. Try to avoid meat and fish products cured with nitrates, which are known carcinogens. Also beware of products that are not exclusively meat, fish or fowl, such as imitation fish, meatloaf and breaded foods. Finally, do not consume more than four ounces of organ meats a day.

OTHER FOODS THAT ARE ACCEPTABLE DURING INDUCTION

Cheese
You can consume three to four ounces daily of the following full-fat, firm, soft and semi-soft aged cheeses*, including:

cheddar
cow, sheep and goat cheese
cream cheese
Gouda
mozzarella
Roquefort and other blue cheeses
Swiss
*All cheeses have some carbohydrate content. The quantity you eat should be governed by that knowledge. The rule of thumb is to count 1 ounce of cheese as equivalent to 1 gram of carbohydrate. Note that cottage cheese, farmer's cheese and other fresh cheeses are not permitted during Induction. No "diet" cheese, cheese spreads or whey cheeses are permitted. Individuals with known yeast symptoms, dairy allergy or cheese intolerance must avoid cheese. Imitation cheese products are not allowed, except for soy or rice cheese but check the carbohydrate content.

Salad Vegetables
You can have two to three cups per day of:

alfalfa sprouts
daikon
mushrooms
arugula
endive
parsley
bok choy
escarole
peppers
celery
fennel
radicchio
chicory
jicama
radishes
chives
lettuce
romaine lettuce
cucumber
moche
sorrel
These salad vegetables are high in phytonutrients and provide a good source of fiber.

Other Vegetables
You can have one cup per day of these veggies if salad does not exceed two cups. The following vegetables are slightly higher in carbohydrate content than the salad vegetables:

artichoke
celery root
pumpkin
artichoke hearts
rhubarb
asparagus
chard
sauerkraut
bamboo shoots
collard greens
scallions
dandelion
snow peas
bean sprouts
dandelion greens
spaghetti squash
beet greens
eggplant
spinach
broccoli
hearts of palm
string or wax beans
broccoli rabe
kale
summer squash
brussels
kohlrabi
tomato
bean sprouts
leeks
turnips
cabbage
okra
water chestnuts
cauliflower
onion
zucchini
If a vegetable, such as spinach or tomato, cooks down significantly, it must be measured raw so as not to underestimate its carb count.

Salad Garnishes

crumbled crisp bacon
grated cheese
minced hard-boiled egg
sauted mushrooms
sour cream

Spices
All spices to taste, but make sure none contain added sugar.

Herbs
basil
garlic
rosemary
cayenne pepper
ginger
sage
cilantro
oregano
tarragon
dill
pepper
thyme
For salad dressing, use oil and vinegar (but not balsamic vinegar, which contains sugar) or lemon juice and herbs and spices. Prepared salad dressings without added sugar and no more than two carbs per tablespoon serving are also fine.

Acceptable Fats and Oils
Many fats, especially certain oils, are essential to good nutrition. Olive oil is particularly valuable. All other vegetable oils are allowed, the best being canola, walnut, soybean, grapeseed, sesame, sunflower and safflower oils, especially if they are labeled "cold-pressed" or "expeller-pressed." Do not cook polyunsaturated oils, such as corn, soybean and sunflower oil, at high temperatures or allow to brown or smoke.

Butter is allowed. Margarine should be avoided, not because of its carbohydrate content, but because it is usually made of trans fats (hydrogenated oils), which are a serious health hazard. (Some nonhydrogenated margarines are available in health-food stores.)

You don't have to remove the skin and fat from meat or fowl. Salmon and other cold-water fish are an excellent source of omega-3 fatty acids.

Remember that trying to do a low-fat version of the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM will interfere with fat burning and derail your weight loss.

Artificial Sweeteners
You must determine which artificial sweeteners agree with you, but the following are allowed: sucralose (marketed as Splenda), saccharin, cyclamate and acesulfame-K. Natural sweeteners ending in the suffix "-ose," such as maltose, fructose, etc., should be avoided. However, certain sugar alcohols, such as maltitol, do not affect blood sugar and are acceptable.

Saccharin has been extensively studied, and harmful effects were produced in the lab when fed to rats only in extremely high doses. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has removed saccharin from its list of carcinogens, basing its decision upon a thorough review of the medical literature and the National Institute of Science's statement that there is "no clear association between saccharin and human cancer." It can be safely consumed in moderation, meaning no more than three packets a day. Saccharin is marketed as Sweet'n Low.

We discourage the use of aspartame (marketed as NutraSweet and Equal) because of clinical observations that it slows weight loss in certain individuals. The FDA has approved the herb stevia for use only as a supplement, not as a sweetener.

The Atkins preference, however, is sucralose (Splenda), the only sweetener made from sugar. Sucralose is safe, noncaloric and does not raise blood sugar. It has been used in Canada for years, and the FDA recently approved it after reviewing more than 100 studies conducted over the past 20 years. Note that each packet of sugar substitute contains about 1 gram of carbohydrate, so don't forget to include the amount in your daily totals.

Acceptable Beverages
Be sure to drink a minimum of eight eight-ounce glasses of water each day, including:

Filtered water
Mineral water
Spring water
Tap water
Additionally, you can have the following:

Clear broth/bouillon (not all brands; read the label)
Club soda
Cream, heavy or light (limit to two to three tablespoons a day; note carbohydrate content)
Decaffeinated coffee or tea*
Diet soda made with sucralose (Splenda); be sure to count the carbs
Essence-flavored seltzer (must say "no calories" and should not contain aspartame)
Herb tea (without barley or any fruit sugar added)
Lemon juice or lime juice (note that each contains 2.8 grams carbohydrate per ounce); limit to two to three tablespoons
*Excessive caffeine may cause unstable blood sugar and should be avoided by those who suspect they are caffeine dependent. Everyone should try to avoid caffeine. Grain beverages (coffee substitutes) are not allowed. Alcoholic beverages are also not permitted during Induction; those low in carbohydrates are an option, in moderation, in later phases.

Special Category Foods
To add variety, each day you can also eat 10 to 20 olives, half a small avocado, an ounce of sour cream or three ounces of unsweetened heavy cream, as well as two to three tablespoons of lemon juice or lime juice. But be aware that these foods occasionally slow down weight loss in some people, and may need to be avoided in the first two weeks. If you seem to be losing slowly, moderate your intake of these foods.

Convenience Foods
Although it is important that you eat primarily unprocessed foods, some controlled carb food products can come in handy when you are unable to find appropriate food, can't take time for a meal or need a quick snack. More and more companies are creating healthy food products that can be eaten during the Induction phase of Atkins. Just remember two things:

Not all convenience food products are the same, so check labels and carbohydrate content.
While any of these foods can make doing Atkins easier, don't overdo it. Remember, you must always follow The Rules of Induction.

(originally posted by 2big4mysize)

[love777]

Re: getting discouraged and it's only day 3!

thanks I did print htat out that's where I got that special catagory foods section
wondering if I should just cut out sour cream and avocado for now.