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[ziggy]

with all the bad things i hear about cholesterol meds
Dangers of Statin Drugs: What You Haven?t Been Told About Popular Cholesterol-Lowering Medicines

and that the cholestoerol meds don't even modulate the size or type of your LDL then what the heck use are they? they just make your cholestoerol worse? along with lots of other horrible things?

i know everyone who's on the atkins diet gets great cholesterol as long as they don't fall for this scam here scroll down till you see the post about cholesterol tests and there tricks

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/main-atkins-diet-forum/85597-dozen-eggs-day.html

anyways my question is has anyone here been able to get good cholestoerol while on the atkins diet and takeing cholestoerol lowering meds?

is it even possible to get good cholestoerol while takeing cholestoerol drugs?

[not2late]

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with all the bad things i hear about cholesterol meds
Dangers of Statin Drugs: What You Haven?t Been Told About Popular Cholesterol-Lowering Medicines

and that the cholestoerol meds don't even modulate the size or type of your LDL then what the heck use are they? they just make your cholestoerol worse? along with lots of other horrible things?

i know everyone who's on the atkins diet gets great cholesterol as long as they don't fall for this scam here scroll down till you see the post about cholesterol tests and there tricks

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/main-atkins-diet-forum/85597-dozen-eggs-day.html

anyways my question is has anyone here been able to get good cholestoerol while on the atkins diet and takeing cholestoerol lowering meds?

is it even possible to get good cholestoerol while takeing cholestoerol drugs?

To your first question, my cholesterol was surprizingly good even before I started Atkins. I can say, however, Atkins did not make it worse.

to answer your second question.....I work in a doctor's office (was the billing/coding person, then got promoted to "office manager"----which simply meant I still did the billing/coding and had other responsibilities added. But I digress......) My docs do have patients who "respond" to the statins and they have patients who do NOT respond to the statins. I don't know how much of it has to do with genetics, age, sex, their overall health, their compliance with taking the statin, or lifestyle factors. By lifestyle factors I mean the diet and exercise: so I don't know if the folks who "respond" to the statins are the ones who moderate their diets and exercise regularly.

We do have a couple of facilities nearby that offer "risk reduction" programs, which comprise of cardiac evaluations, nutritional guidance, an exercise program and bi-monthly/monthly reviews. (It's pretty cool, because the nutritionists work with the person to find a diet that suits them.....they just don't make everyone eat a vegan diet or something like that, ) The folks who go and who actually follow their program, lose weight and see an improvement in their cholesterol and lower their medication requirements. Again, I don't know (and I don't think they know either) if it's the combination of the lifestyle and meds that lower their cholesterol or if the lifestyle modifications are more effective than the statins.

But it DOES take commitment from the person to stick to a diet and exercise plan: that's alot harder to do than swallowing a pill.

[atkinsgal08]

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>> i know everyone who's on the atkins diet gets great cholesterol>>

That's not true.

Some people cannot control their cholesterol with diet and/or exercise alone.

[not2late]

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>> i know everyone who's on the atkins diet gets great cholesterol>>

That's not true.

Some people cannot control their cholesterol with diet and/or exercise alone.

These people may have a genetically determined "familial hypercholesterolemia" syndrome. It is, however, a "rare" syndrome. The NIH website has a blurb about it:

Familial hypercholesterolemia: MedlinePlus Medical Encyclopedia


Interestingly, there are people who cannot take statins because it causes muscle cramps and weakness. And there is a fear that the muscle pains are due to the statins damaging the muscles. Or that the muscle pains are due to the depletion of Co-enzyme Q10 or carnitine.

My uncle was on Crestor. It lowered his cholesterol, but he felt fatigued all the time. It was to the point that he couldn't be physically active, because he felt so bad. But his cholesterol was good.

I guess it's one of those "YMMV" things................

[Elizellen]

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I read somewhere that statins do not 'work' for women in reducing cholesterol, also that it is not really a bad thing for older women to have a high cholesterol level
Is there any truth in those statements, does anyone know, or are they just internet myths?

[msanjelpie]

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After losing 100 lbs on Atkins, my cholesterol was 'still' high. Doc put me on Crestor, said it was hereditary and I've been on it ever since. It lowers my numbers by about 70 points.

Another reason I don't mind taking it is that it may reduce my risk of getting Alzheimers, another thing that runs in the family...

I don't mind being a guinea pig...

You should take CoQ10 with any statins however...

[brandywine1241]

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Where are the studies proving that high blood cholesterol in the absence of a high carb diet is dangerous anyway? Gary Taubes, in Good Calories Bad Calories, theorizes that it is insulin that causes plaque deposits in the arteries.

[2big4mysize]

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I lost a friend in 2005 who tried everything including exercise and Atkins to lower her cholesterol, fish oil capsules, herbs, reducing her saturated fats, eating monosaturated fats, and her cholesterol did go down from over 800 to about 500 but it wasn't enough.
Since my Mother was on statins before I became her caregiver. the doc says he can't take her off and it would take a court order to allow me to take her off them, but eating atkins maintenance has lowered her numbers from the high 200s to the high 100s. her HDL is way low though which was why I wanted her off the statins but one can't argue with the pics of her arteries that show very little plaque any where.

She has alzheimers and I looked into the statins and helping AD before even thinking about removing her, but it only helps according to the studies if the person's demintia is caused by lack of blood flow caused by clogged arteries. That is not something which is AD caused.

[ziggy]

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I read somewhere that statins do not 'work' for women in reducing cholesterol, also that it is not really a bad thing for older women to have a high cholesterol level
Is there any truth in those statements, does anyone know, or are they just internet myths?

Is cholesterol the cause of heart disease? A French study reported in The Lancet in 1989 that women with low cholesterol had a death rate more than five times higher than that of women with very high cholesterol. In fact, the researchers noted that old women with very high cholesterol live the longest. Another group of researchers looked at every study published about the risk of having high or low cholesterol. They concluded that mortality was higher for women with low cholesterol than for women with high cholesterol.
Coenzyme Q10 - 100% Additive-Free, Dr. Ron's Ultra-Pure

its good to have high cholesterol as long as its the good cholestoral this is why total cholestoral tests suck because if you have great cholestoral the test will say you have horrible cholestoral

one part of great cholestoral is high amounts of the large healthy fluffy type of LDL however a total cholestoral test combinds that good LDL which will be high on a healthy diet with all the not so good LDL and if your LDL is too high which it will be the doctor will say you got bad cholestoral when you infact have great cholestoral because you got lots of he healthy type of LDL

total cholestoral tests are mostly a scam you only want to get full pannel cholestoral tests that will show all the different types of LDL in your body and then it will show you got very high LDL of the healthy type

even after 6 months on atkins peoples cholestoral is always a little on the high end but they got the healthy types of LDL so in short there cholestoral is great

HDL recycles your LDL and saturated fat helps create the large healthy fluffly type of LDL

also what really is more likely to cause heart disease is glucose and other forms of sugars it was explain by dr.Mercola on a youtube video but that video was remove

wow i just checked one of his videos this info is extremely useful
YouTube - VITAMIN D KILLS H1N1 and NO SCIENTIFIC PROOF FLU VACCINES WORK

also awhile back i fell for the vitamin A & D toxicity but iv found out that you can eat so so much of it before its toxic
http://www.westonaprice.org/The-Mira...Vitamin-D.html

[Elizellen]

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Thanks for those links, ziggy