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    Hey everyone,

    I heard a new forum was started for Arthritis so I thought I'd come check it out and get some input. I recently broke my ankle (about 5 weeks ago), had surgery on it (about 3 weeks ago), and am still not able to put weight on it. Anyway, at my last ortho. appt. the doctor warned me that it's likely I will get post traumatic arthritis in my ankle due to cartlidge damage. I was totally bummed! I'm 27 years old and am on my feet all day as a teacher. I'm trying to stay positive but I can't deny the fear I feel.

    My biggest fear really right now is that I won't be able to continue with the excercising that I love to do, mainly Kick, Step, and Power classes. I've been researching online and everything I read says you should stick with lower impact exercises (swimming, cycling, and such). I really don't enjoy those. I love group aerobic classes and hate to give it up!

    I guess my question for you is what type of arthritis do you have and how does it affect you with exercise and just with daily activities. Are you still able to do the things you love? And has the Atkins WOE provided any benefits in this area of your life? Thanks for your input.
    LIZ
    27/5'3''
    Highest: 365
    Restart: 352 on 10/1/07
    *Mini goal 3: 299*
    Goal: 150 (going skydiving!)

    The difference between try and triumph is just a little umph!


    My First 5K! (that's me in the middle)







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    Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

    Hi Liz,

    I came over to have a look at this board too - as I suffer from arthritis in my right knee and ankle - all a result of a motorcycle accident in my 20's.

    It's a real shame about your ankle, but don't assume that arthritis is inevitable after the break - if you rehabilitate your ankle carefully it may avoid osteo-arthritis. Also there are lots of supports you can wear on your ankle when exercising to strengthen it - not high fashion, but they are a terrific help. I can imagine you are feeling very fed up at the moment, especially as you have been off your feet for a while - but try to be patient and work with your doctor towards healing and then strengthening that ankle. I expect you will get lots of exercises to do to strengthen the muscles around that ankle, which in turn will support it as it heals.

    My knee causes me a lot of problems (because I got straight back up on my feet before my knee was ready - be warned!) so I tend to stick to lower impact exercises, I love to cycle, swim and do weights..and a bit of tai chi.

    The best thing that you and I can do to improve our lifestyle is to get the weight down as quickly and as healthily as we can. The less strain there is on our damaged joints, the more easy it is for us to do the activities we both love - and as we both know, there is no better way to lose weight effectively and healthily than the Atkins WOE. I have lost 21 pounds and my knee is already thanking me!

    What are you doing for exercise while you are off your feet?

    Try not to be too worried at the moment, we are all different and your ankle may heal well and not give you too much trouble.

    I hope this helps. *hugs for the poor patient*

    Keetje
    FIRST GOAL 117kg (10% down!) Met 27.4.09
    SECOND GOAL 110kg

    My blog is finally up

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    • #3
      Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

      Hi Liz,
      I too have arthritis but happy to say that I don't suffer with it near as much as I did when I was heavier. I also take supplements that help immensly. I take Glucosamine and also Omega 3 fish oils. They have been a huge help and i'm able to exercise and move alot better without the discomfort that I once had.
      There are some wonderful Omega 3 fish oils out on the market. They are not all created equal as far as quality. So make sure you do your homework on which one would be best for you.
      It would be a good thing to get started on these supplements now. To help along with your healing.
      Sincerely, Sherri
      MOTHEREARTH AKA SHERRI "HOW THE WORLD TURNS AS I SEE IT"
      HT: 5'10.5-Highest weight-374 lbs.
      Began ATKINS 07-07-04 @ 334 lbs.
      Maintaned 101 lb. Weightloss
      New goals-New start 03-21-10 @ 273
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~inches lost~~~~
      1st mini-goal: 260
      2nd mini-goal:249
      2nd mini-goal:239
      3rd mini-goal:229
      GOAL :225




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      • #4
        Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

        Hey Liz,

        I am so sorry for your injury, but at least you don't have arthritis yet and maybe nevr will! I will tell you I have very bad arthritis in both knees and have been doing jazzercise 5 days a week for two months now. They will help you modify to your level and will teach you to do as low or high impact as you want or are able. It is great fun and definitely falls into the aerobic style that you like.

        My arthritis is osteoarthritis. It is one of the things that has really driven me to lose as I understand that every pound you lose takes 4 pounds of pressure of the weight bearing joints.

        Good Luck!
        GINNY
        F
        264/240/130
        Eat to Live; Don't Live to Eat!

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        • #5
          Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

          I had the cartilage trimmed in one knee joint and know that osteo arthritis is already starting to rear its ugly head. I take glucosamine and chondroitin and although my orthopedic surgeon isn't convinced it works, I am!! I no longer do mountain hiking without walking sticks, and I speed walk rather than jog now. I will do squats carefully with lower weights but have foregone regular lunges (although I can do step lunges). Jazzercise, weight training, elliptical and swimming are all among my choices as is golf. I haven't yet started, but several arthritic friends do water aerobics and love it. They say the lack of weight makes it very easy for their joints. I actually feel that my knees have gotten better as the muscles have gotten stronger. I don't find stairs as hard on my knees and I feel more flexible.
          JILL

          HW 298
          HW (this time) 248
          GOAL ONE 228
          (take 2)
          GOAL TWO 213 (personal goal)
          GOAL THREE 199 ONE-DERLAND
          FINAL GOAL 165

          It's not about the results. Its about the process.

          "I've never come home after a workout and said, MAN, I wish I had NOT exercised today!"



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          • #6
            Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

            Thanks for all your responses. It's been 6.5 weeks since breaking my ankle... 4.5 weeks since the surgery to put it all back together. I had an ortho appt this week and they finally ordered Physical Therapy 2x's per week, with weight bearing up to 25 pounds. I'm in an aircast now so I'm able to take it off for bathing and to exercise the ankle, but no standing or walking. I never knew how long broken bones took to heal. *sigh*

            Anyway, I'm feeling more positive now about the arthritis, just trying to stay positive and take things one day at a time. I can't change what's happened, I can only move forward and take what comes. I know now, more than ever, that it's SUPER important to lose this weight. The less stress on my joints the better.

            Sherri and Jill, my surgeon did tell me to start taking glucosamine and chondroitin so I bought some right away from GNC and have been taking them every morning for about 2 weeks now. It also came with fish oil, so I take one of those every day too. But I didn't do my research Sherri, so I don't know if the fish oil is high quality or not... hmmm, I'll have to look into that.

            Exercise has been minimal since breaking my ankle. Although I am getting a good arm workout dragging my big butt around the house with a walker and hopping on one foot! lol

            I'll keep you guys posted.
            LIZ
            27/5'3''
            Highest: 365
            Restart: 352 on 10/1/07
            *Mini goal 3: 299*
            Goal: 150 (going skydiving!)

            The difference between try and triumph is just a little umph!


            My First 5K! (that's me in the middle)






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            • #7
              Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

              Best wishes Liz,
              When they tell you, you are in danger of getting arthritis after an injury, it is not an immediate thing. It is just that arthritis seems to develope more easily in joints that have been injured at some point in time. You may have many arthritis free years ahead, and getting the weight off will definitely help!
              GINNY
              F
              264/240/130
              Eat to Live; Don't Live to Eat!

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              • #8
                Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

                Thanks Ginny, that's what I'm hoping. I just can't help but worry. Everytime I feel a pain in my ankle now I worry that it's the arthritis starting. I'm so paranoid. What does arthritis feel like? Is there any way to describe it?

                Oh, also, I forgot to mention earlier that I asked the therapist earlier this week about doing kick and step classes at the gym once all this is healed. He said that would be up to the ortho doctor but that he probably wouldn't recommend such high impact exercise. I'm so bummed. Kick and Step classes are what kept me going to the gym. I actually looked forward to going to those. I can't believe how good I was finally doing at the gym and now I feel like I'm back at square one.
                LIZ
                27/5'3''
                Highest: 365
                Restart: 352 on 10/1/07
                *Mini goal 3: 299*
                Goal: 150 (going skydiving!)

                The difference between try and triumph is just a little umph!


                My First 5K! (that's me in the middle)






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                • #9
                  Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

                  Liz,
                  Arthritis takes quite a long time to build up. It is painful but as I am finding out, controllable to some degree. Weight loss is the single most effective key to pain control. One pound of weightloss takes 4 pounds of strain off the weight bearing joints, ( ankles, hips, knees, etc).

                  I abused my knees for years. I own a cleaning company doing new home cleaning. I spent years (24) down on my knees cleaning up paint spatters, etc. on a daily basis. Stupidly without knee pads cause "I was young and in good shape and didn't need them".

                  An interesting thing is that my osteoarthritis in my knee never gave me a twinge. I never even realized it was there till I went into menopause and my TOM stopped completely. Then I ent through about 6 months of agony with my right knee and after getting that under manageable control it began with my left as well.

                  However about a year after my tOM stopped, out of the blue I had one cycle. About 2 weeeks before, the pain magically disappeared. and stayed away for a couple of weeks after. I am convinced that hormones have a lot of impact on osteoarthritis and that is one of the reasons why it mostly affects older people (and more women then men). One of my doctors agrees completely and the other says its hogwash.

                  Don't know for sure, but if I'm right the odds are tiupped un youyr favor for many pain free years.

                  As to the exercise, try jazzercise. With two bad knees I am working out 1 to 2 hours a day now. They modify for your situation and it is one incredible work out and boy do I show the results!

                  Best wishes on your situation!
                  GINNY
                  F
                  264/240/130
                  Eat to Live; Don't Live to Eat!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

                    Thanks for the reply Ginny, Sorry to hear of your painful knees. I may have that in my future too since I've been overweight my whole life and putting unneeded stress on them. I'm working really hard to lose weight. After the ankle break my doctor told me how important it is now since some of my cartlidge is missing. If there ever was a time for me to lose it, it's NOW!

                    Where do you take Jazzercise? Is it a gym or a video? Sounds interesting. Thanks.
                    LIZ
                    27/5'3''
                    Highest: 365
                    Restart: 352 on 10/1/07
                    *Mini goal 3: 299*
                    Goal: 150 (going skydiving!)

                    The difference between try and triumph is just a little umph!


                    My First 5K! (that's me in the middle)






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                    • #11
                      Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

                      Liz Jazzercise is a national thing available in almost all areas. www.jazzercise.com for locations. I don't work for them or anything but I am really enthused about what it has done for me. Good luck!
                      GINNY
                      F
                      264/240/130
                      Eat to Live; Don't Live to Eat!

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                      • #12
                        Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

                        Aaaack! I am in perimenopause now and know that I am headed for osteoarthritis in my knees. Its funny what you said about your TOM and knees. Mine hasn't bothered me for two weeks and I just had my first TOM in a couple months, so it makes sense to me.
                        JILL

                        HW 298
                        HW (this time) 248
                        GOAL ONE 228
                        (take 2)
                        GOAL TWO 213 (personal goal)
                        GOAL THREE 199 ONE-DERLAND
                        FINAL GOAL 165

                        It's not about the results. Its about the process.

                        "I've never come home after a workout and said, MAN, I wish I had NOT exercised today!"



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                        • #13
                          Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

                          Jill,
                          If you don't already have osteoarthritis or don't have it bad you are on the right track losing weight and from your other posts exervcising too. You may avoid most of the pain. I sure hope so!
                          GINNY
                          F
                          264/240/130
                          Eat to Live; Don't Live to Eat!

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                          • #14
                            Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

                            Hi Liz,
                            Wow! I'm so sorry you broke your ankle! and you've been doing so well! Well, I don't have anything more to add. The suggestions here are great. I just wanted to say that
                            'I'm sorry you broke your ankle and I hope you feel better soon!' I agree too that it's important to keep a possitive additude and not buy into arthritis being inevitable. Sounds like there's a lot that can be done to prevent it... hope it all works for you.


                            Oh, just thought of something. I have been recovering from surgery myself. One of the things that really helped me out was listening to Belleruth Naprostek's cd's on healing, pain, surgery etc... the website to download them is Belleruth Naparstek's Guided Imagery Cds & Tapes - Therapy and Meditation - Health Journeys
                            I couldn't have made it through my surgery without them. It helped so much, I still listen to one of them almost every day because of the possitive thought patterns they promote which help with healing. Check it out. It's really good stuff.
                            liz
                            Highest wt 227
                            Atkins start wt 215
                            Restart 1/29/10 201
                            Current 195
                            Goal 149








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                            • #15
                              Re: Arthritis, Exercise, and this WOE (question)

                              Liz, If you find that the glucosamine doesn't seem to be working, change brands. I have found they are not all created equal. I now buy the triple strength Osteo Bi-flex brand because I seem to get the best results from that one. Some of my friends seem to do fine with any brand.
                              JILL

                              HW 298
                              HW (this time) 248
                              GOAL ONE 228
                              (take 2)
                              GOAL TWO 213 (personal goal)
                              GOAL THREE 199 ONE-DERLAND
                              FINAL GOAL 165

                              It's not about the results. Its about the process.

                              "I've never come home after a workout and said, MAN, I wish I had NOT exercised today!"



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