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  • #16
    Re: WHY do THEY LIE TO US?!?!??!?!

    so how you doing now? Feeling better?
    by the book atkinseer

    started 6/1/02 at 313
    goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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    • #17
      Re: WHY do THEY LIE TO US?!?!??!?!

      I took Effexor for almost 2 years. For the first few months I dropped quite a bit of weight....probally because I had more energy and I just felt better about life. I have nothing about good things to say about it..... well excpet when you try to get off the stuff. Headaches...shock that run through your body. ....but still well worth it!

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      • #18
        Re: WHY do THEY LIE TO US?!?!??!?!

        I have nothing about good things to say about it..... well excpet when you try to get off the stuff. Headaches...shock that run through your body. ....but still well worth it!
        DON'T GET ME STARTED ON EFFEXOR. What an EVIL drug it is. I'm now getting over the withdrawal, and I swear, as God is my witness, I will NEVER take any anti-depressants again. The withdrawal is downright EVIL. It is NOT worth it. NO WAY NO HOW.

        Betty
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        • #19
          Re: WHY do THEY LIE TO US?!?!??!?!

          I saw the Effexor and just had to have my 2 cents.
          I have Borderline Personality Disorder and wasn't RXed to take effexor as much as I had it just shoved in my hand and told "you NEED this asap cause you're a quack." That was some regular doctor who was kind of a jerk anyway. My psychiatrist (who I only saw about 3 times) told me to stay on it, and upped the dose to twice what I was taking.
          If anyone knows how it is to have BPD, being on effexor really freaked me out. I felt -nothing-, I was a freaking pod person. I was used to feeling everything and anything, so it was crazy weird to be on the total opposite, but it was a bit of a relief for my brain. I don't think just TAKING the pill makes you gain weight, but I think my lack of caring about anything at all anymore did that. When I started taking it I was at my lowest weight on atkins, 180. Almost immediately I started gaining because I wasn't caring as much about what I ate, and got up to 13lbs heavier that I was the first time I started atkins.
          A word on withdrawal.... I can't say a lot. I only stayed on effexor a few months before I had to wean myself off it super fast because I couldnt afford it. The same exact time I was going through withdrawal, I also found out I was having morning sickness and was pregnant. So I felt like absolute **** for over a month. I worked at starbucks at the time and I had to be at work at 4 every morning. So every morning I'd get up, throw up, go to work, throw up at work, repeat. Horrible horrible stuff.
          I gained most of my weight after I was OFF Effexor, so I wouldnt worry about it being the sole cause.
          F/24/5'10"
          hw250/sw226.6/cw ?? /gw170

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          • #20
            Re: WHY do THEY LIE TO US?!?!??!?!

            Kinkay, there are two classes of depression - typical and atypical. (Doctor's classification, not mine.) "Typical" is characterized by lack of appetite and inability to sleep. "Atypical" is sleeping all the time (or more than normal) and increased appetite. I have atypical depression and I believe that antidepressants are formulated to treat typical depression, resulting in increased appetite and sleepiness. I have been clinically depressed on and off for most of the past 13 years. I also believe that in the same way that carbohydrate over-consumption has goofed up my pancreas' production of insulin, it has also goofed up my production and re-uptake of serotonin. (The combination of natural serotonin plus the serotonin produced by sugar/carb consumption has caused my brain to produce less, relying on the carb serotonin.) This may be my theory only.

            Many doctor's are reluctant to tell a depressed patient that their medication may possibly cause weight gain because they want you to take the medicine to get better, and like you said in your post, many people will not take it if they think that they will gain (even more) weight. However, people suffering from depression (especially severe depression) don't recognize how imperative it is to stabilize their mood to save their life. They can be totally self-focused and unable to see the "big picture." So, doctor's choose the lesser of two evils - weight gain over a possible tragic end.

            But, as many people in this thread have pointed out, taking your medicine may not cause you to gain weight. In fact, taking your meds may help you to become motivated to do the things that you need to do to lose any excess weight that you may have - eating "good for you" food, exercising, etc.

            I would also suggest reading the book, "Feeling Good - the new mood therapy" by David D. Burns to ANYONE suffering from depression. It's been a great help to me in understanding my thought process.

            I hope that you feel better soon.
            Linda (supposed GardenGoddess)

            My thoughts are my reality.

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            • #21
              Re: WHY do THEY LIE TO US?!?!??!?!

              You might do some research on Effexor - Consumer Reports listed it as among thier "dirty dozen" of available drugs. A friend of mine is getting off of it after taking it for a couple years. She did gain weight, and it's taken about six months for her to step down off the drug with all kinds of really bad side effects. Unless you have exhausted all your options of other anti-anxiety/depressants you might try others first.
              F 29, 5'5"
              Start date: April 18, 2006











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              • #22
                Re: WHY do THEY LIE TO US?!?!??!?!

                Reading about Effexor roused up a couple of nightmares in my past:
                1. Expensive;
                2. Not as effective after a few weeks
                3. when combined after that with Paxil, I was a zombie gaining weight. I
                don't blame the Effexor for that, but now take neither drug. On occasion I'll take St John's Wort up to 3 weeks at a time with 2 weeks off. That is the supplemental herb after which Effexor is designed. Since stating Atkins, however, my psych state is greatly improved!

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                Last edited by sillygirl; January 6, 2008, 09:56 AM.
                ~Susan
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                Doin Miles, Flights, & Kid Ketchin'...
                2 Ab Chal's; 6WEC#27 slug-Free; & more; 50# LOST in'06-
                but regained ~20# in '07 in less than 3 weeks! And again early '08 ...Was in HEAVEN -got to 150, for awhile, then got too busy, and gave in too much... and... OK holding pattern "keep it together..."

                .................OMG how did I fail AGAIN
                (((on temporary break)))
                Sigh ... I'll be back... life isn't always fair 10-07-09

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