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  • #16
    Re: Bicyclists!

    When you are using a higher gear, the chain is one a larger sprocket (the circle with the teeth). I hope i'm not insulting your intelligence with that. When it's on the larger sprocket, one rotation of your feet on the pedals is going to move the chain farther. Example

    Small sprocket- you move your feet around once and the sprocket turns and moves the chain, which in turn makes your tire rotate a certain amount. It doesn't take too much effort, but you don't go very far. That's good for uphill because you aren't killing you self to fight gravity.

    Larger sprocket- you move your feet once around and the sprocket turns and moves the chain, which in turn makes the tire rotate. This time, more chain is being moved because it's going around a larger diameter circle. So now you're making the tire turn a lot more but with some more effort. That's why you'd "upshift" while going down-hill.

    It's like driving a standard transmission car.

    http://bicycleuniverse.info/eqp/gears.html
    Here's pretty much all you need to know about shifting gears:


    • If you're going uphill and it's too difficult, shift down.
    • If your legs are spinning the pedals way too fast (it's too "easy") then shift up.
    That's it, in a nutshell. Of course there are nuances but that's 90% of what you need to know.

    Here it is with more detail:

    Let's say you're on a three-speed bike, in second speed. You start to go up a hill, and suddenly your legs can't spin the pedals as fast. You're barely turning the pedals, pushing hard on them, and you're going so slowly you think you might fall over. The solution? Downshift to first gear.

    How does that solve the problem? First gear moves you a shorter distance for each spin of the pedals, which makes it easier to pedal.

    Now let's say you've reached the top of the hill, and you start going downhill slightly. Soon you find there's no resistance in the pedals -- you can spin them as fast as you want and you're not really getting anywhere. Solution? Upshift back to 2, and if it's still too easy, then upshift to 3.

    This works because the higher gears move you farther for each spin of the pedals, making you do more "work", and making it less "easy".


    Advanced gearing


    So you've learned the basics: Uphill = shift down, Downhill = shift up. But you have an 18-speed bike and you're wondering which shifter to use, the left one or the right one? The answer depends on how much change you need. If you need a big change, use your left shifter. If you need a small change, use the right one. As you ride you'll get a feel for whether you need a big change or a small change.


    Another thing: Try to keep the chain in a sort-of straight line between the front and rear sets, rather than going at an angle from left to right. For example, in the very lowest gear the chain will be all the way on the left on both sets. In the very highest gear the chain will be all the way on the right. What you don't want to do is to use the left-hand ring in the front and the right-hand ring in the back, which makes the chain go diagonally -- that stretches the chain and wears it out. You also don't want to use the right-hand ring in the front and the left-hand ring in the back. Same thing.

    If you're in the easiest gear (left-hand on both rings) and you need to upshift, and you've moved the chain on the rear set to the middle, and that's not enough and you still need to upshift, don't keep shifting the rear set. Instead, shift the front set from the left to the middle (1 to 2). That keeps your chain nice and straight.

    Let's have another look at our gearing chart. The green boxes are the combinations you'll use, and the gray ones are the combos you'll avoid.

    So yes, you won't use every gear available to you. You're not supposed to. When you get an 18-speed bike vs. a 15-speed bike, the point isn't really that you get more gears to use, it's to give you a wider range -- the lower gears will be lower (easier to pedal up hills) and the higher gears will be higher (take you farther on one spin when you're going downhill).




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    • #17
      Re: Bicyclists!

      Dots, you're definitely not insulting my intelligence. I'm having a hard time getting this gear thing straight, so I need all the help I can get!

      ImCommitted, I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks bikes are alot more complicated than they used to be! I spent about an hour riding yesterday afternoon around the local school yard (combo of pavement, grass and dirt). My knuckles aren't as white, lol.

      I noticed that when I don't think about crashing or worrying about falling, my riding was smoother. I guess, I have to just relax and stop thinking "OMIGOD! I'm gonna crash!!!!!"
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      • #18
        Re: Bicyclists!

        Megs have you counted your teeth or did your bike come with a spec sheet so you know what gear is what? also when you shift you want to shift just enough to not here the chain hitting the derailer so you don't pull the chain too far or not enough.
        And if you haven't figured it out yet you want to anticipate needing to shift gears and not wait till you are struggling to get up a hill as shifting under a strain is not advised.

        Oh and even though you already figured it out riding in the down posistion will expose different body parts to the sun then folk realize so make sure you got your sunscreen on and work to even out your tan. if you don't wear riding gloves you will see your tan on your hands start looking strang. as the curved finger parts get much less sun exposure then the rest of your hand when you get to do longer rides.

        Oh and one thing else if you feel you are going too fast down a slope sit up and use your chest as an air brake it will help slow you down before you enter a curve or intersection but not stop you.

        oh and about your shoes. you will find that if you got a pair of shoes with a hard sole or mid sole strike insert like walking shoes you will get better pedaling power then if you got running shoes on as the flex in the foot of those shoes will not transfer your stroke as well.

        Got any fun rides planned?

        Have fun.

        nobody ask but what did you get? frame type, shifters, etc?
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        • #19
          Re: Bicyclists!

          2Big right now, I've been planning my rides so I ride on more or less flat surfaces. So I haven't had to really ride up or downhill, hence no gear changes. But I plan to try inclines when I gain a bit more confidence and get more control of my bike. I still have moments when the bike 'gets away' from me, like this morning. I did well navigating the road turns, until I turned onto my street and I wobbled a bit. I still need practice with turns, obviously. I think I spent about 20 or so minutes yesterday and this morning, tracing 'figure 8s' and just riding along the perimeter of the school parking lot. I do them in both directions so I get practice with my lefts and rights. It's something I remember doing as a kid more for fun than for learning bike control.

          However I'm doing less walking my bike and more riding it since I began, so it's definitely an improvement, imo.

          Interesting about the shoes....I've been using my walking shoes and I was thinking about changing them for something with a thinner sole because I can't 'feel' the pedals with them as well as I would like.
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          • #20
            Re: Bicyclists!

            not2late,
            2big is definitely right about the shoes. I use "clip in" pedals for my bike, so I can produce power with each leg throughout the entire revolution. The soles of the specific shoes for this have carbon fibre or hard molded plastic. The soles do not bend (makes it wierd to walk in them). Point is, the harder the soles are, less flesx in the foot, more power into the crank.
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            • #21
              Re: Bicyclists!

              Originally posted by idoru99
              not2late,
              2big is definitely right about the shoes. I use "clip in" pedals for my bike, so I can produce power with each leg throughout the entire revolution. The soles of the specific shoes for this have carbon fibre or hard molded plastic. The soles do not bend (makes it wierd to walk in them). Point is, the harder the soles are, less flesx in the foot, more power into the crank.
              What do you mean by "produce power"? Does that mean you use less energy to push the pedals (ie: pedalling is easier because the weight/structure of the shoe makes pedalling easier) or does that mean your muscles use more energy to push the pedals because the shoes make pedalling harder to perform?

              If a not-so-stiff shoe means I have to use more of my energy (work my muscles harder) to pedal, I'm not too concerned because I've noticed that biking uses my leg, ab and butt muscles alittle differently than my usual walking does.
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              • #22
                Re: Bicyclists!

                I guess, I'm saying that while without some sort of strap to hold your foot to the pedal, you can only actively move the pedals when your foot is pushing down. While being held to the pedal, either with a strap or clips, you can actively move the pedal while pulling up as well as pushing down. So you can supply power to the crank for a full revolution for each foot instead of only half.

                I'm not saying you should change over, clip in pedals take some work to get used to. I fell twice in the first week with them and I had been riding for years before getting them. I was just commenting on the use of stiffer shoes and using those as an example. Using a stiffer shoe transfers more energy to the crank rather than energy being used to bend the shoe/foot.

                I hope I didn't confuse you. I originally was just trying to agree with 2big and went overboard. Sorry.

                Brian
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                Just because you land without injury does not necessarily mean you didn't screw up, it just means that you got away with it one more time.

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                • #23
                  Re: Bicyclists!

                  yep stiff soles give you more transfer of your power to the pedal to move the bike. Also your feet will not be as sore from pedaling a longer distance. Remember feet were desinged to land on the heel and rock forward not push all the time with the ball of the foot and the rest of the foot in the flexed arch posistion which is what pedaling does.

                  try some toe clips and you will be amazed at how easy the pedaling becomes. leave them slightly loose when you start and as you get better make them tigher. Your feet will not slip off and you can use the ankle motion of the pedaling to power the whole circle of the pedals.
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                  • #24
                    Re: Bicyclists!

                    Okay, but do I want the pedalling to take less muscular effort if I'm using my bike for exercise? If I wanted to do those bicycle races, then I can see why using less muscle will be an advantage because I won't fatigue as fast and be able to pedal longer. But from a purely exercise point of view, wouldn't I want to stress my muscles enough to provide a decent work-out?
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                    • #25
                      Re: Bicyclists!

                      The muscle groups you use while riding are your quads, calfs, abs and even some arms. What you don't want to fatigue are your arches. That's not what should be worked out while riding, feet just were not designed for that motion. The advantage of stiffer shoes is for speed, but also allows you to ride farther before needing to stop, allowing a longer workout. You definitely want to work the muscles enough for a decent workout, you just want to work out the right ones.
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                      Just because you land without injury does not necessarily mean you didn't screw up, it just means that you got away with it one more time.

                      The greatest risk you take in life is the risk you don't take.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Bicyclists!

                        Hmm...I'll have to pay more attention to the way I pedal, because the way I'm doing it now (or at least the way I think I'm doing it) is that my foot doesn't stay flexed throughout the entire motion. That on the lowest point of the down-stroke, my foot is slightly extended. But again, I'll have to see if that's what I'm doing or not.
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                        • #27
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                          This is kind of weird....

                          I've been riding my bike everyday this week. I don't ride far....maybe about 1-1.5 miles (far less than I would usually walk). Anyhow, I wore some pants to work today that I haven't worn in about a week. They were looser around the waist. So I took a measure and I'm down about 3/4 inch!
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                          • #28
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                            woo hoo on thosae pants. when I was riding cross country in my youth my thighs in the jeans got tighter as the muscles grew bigger.

                            Originally posted by not2late
                            Okay, but do I want the pedalling to take less muscular effort if I'm using my bike for exercise? If I wanted to do those bicycle races, then I can see why using less muscle will be an advantage because I won't fatigue as fast and be able to pedal longer. But from a purely exercise point of view, wouldn't I want to stress my muscles enough to provide a decent work-out?
                            you can do that very easily by under gearing and making your leg muscles not the gears do the work. the foot should be flat at the bottom of the stroke if your foot is pointed your seat is too high.
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                            • #29
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                              I just have to crow....I was able to go downhill without losing control or seriously injuring myself!!!!!!!

                              And I'm not the only one who's noticed my waist and hips have gotten smaller. I had dinner at Mom's last night and she asked me what I was doing because I look smaller than I did 2 weeks ago!

                              Absolutely amazing what a change in routine can do.
                              ~Megs~
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                              • #30
                                Re: Bicyclists!

                                good for you

                                remember just sit up and use your chest if you get scared you are going to fast. that will slow you noticibly when you come out of your tuck.
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