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    full story:





    The largest study ever to ask whether a low-fat diet reduces the risk of getting cancer or heart disease has found that the diet has no effect.

    The $415 million federal study involved nearly 49,000 women ages 50 to 79 who were followed for eight years. In the end, those assigned to a low-fat diet had the same rates of breast cancer, colon cancer, heart attacks and strokes as those who ate whatever they pleased, researchers are reporting today.

    "These studies are revolutionary," said Dr. Jules Hirsch, physician in chief emeritus at Rockefeller University in New York City, who has spent a lifetime studying the effects of diets on weight and health. "They should put a stop to this era of thinking that we have all the information we need to change the whole national diet and make everybody healthy."

    The study, published in today's issue of The Journal of the American Medical Association, was not just an ordinary study, said Dr. Michael Thun, who directs epidemiological research for the American Cancer Society. It was so large and so expensive, Dr. Thun said, that it was "the Rolls-Royce of studies." As such, he added, it is likely to be the final word.

    "We usually have only one shot at a very large-scale trial on a particular issue," he said.

    The results, the study investigators agreed, do not justify recommending low-fat diets to the public to reduce their heart disease and cancer risk. Given the lack of benefit found in the study, many medical researchers said that the best dietary advice, for now, was to follow federal guidelines for healthy eating, with less saturated and trans fats, more grains, and more fruits and vegetables.

    Not everyone was convinced. Some, like Dr. Dean Ornish, a longtime promoter of low-fat diets and president of the Preventive Medicine Research Institute in Sausalito, Calif., said that the women did not reduce their fat to low enough levels or eat enough fruits and vegetables, and that the study, even at eight years, did not give the diets enough time.
    Yeah, eat more grains.... Low fat doesn't work so eat more carbs. And of course Ornish must say it is all BS or he'll have to admit his regimen is useless...

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    Re: Low-Fat Diet Won't Stop Cancer or Heart Disease

    Hahaha yeah... Good ol' Ornish...

    I saw the story on the morning news today. You know what's funny? There was a lot of speculation about the study's findings because they concluded the study wasn't long enough to show health improvements, well

    HMMM--look how quickly people's cardiovascular precursor numbers stabilize on Atkins... it's funny how some can virtually discount this low-fat study saying that it wasn't long-term enough (or followed to the "T"), and then totally ignore the heart health / diabetes improvement of low-carb eaters.

    The more I see, the more most everyone in the nutrition/diet business seems to have stepped out of a Monty Python skit.
    No stats. Not weighing anymore ever. Will post "before and after" pictures when I want to. The end.

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      Re: Low-Fat Diet Won't Stop Cancer or Heart Disease

      Dr Mike Eades response: http://blog.proteinpower.com/drmike/...t_hammere.html

      Jimmy More's Response: http://livinlavidalocarb.blogspot.co...w-fat-lie.html
      My ADBB Journal here.

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        Re: Low-Fat Diet Won't Stop Cancer or Heart Disease

        Thanks for the post! This was great!
        ~Kat
        F, 45, 5'7"



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          Yaaay... thanks, LCDave, for balancing the equation!
          No stats. Not weighing anymore ever. Will post "before and after" pictures when I want to. The end.

          Vigilance, not perfection.

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          • #6
            Low Fat Diets and Women

            In the next day or two, you'll be hearing about these 3 studies published in the Journal of the American Medical Association:

            Low Fat and Breast Cancer Risk
            http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/full/295/6/629).

            Low Fat and Heart Disease Risk
            http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/295/6/655

            Low Fat and Colon Cancer Risk
            http://jama.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/295/6/643

            While this looks to be a "victory" on our side, don't be too confident and start eating without consideration. I think they should do other studies but focus on the artificial, highly processed food intake and their relationship to heart disease, breast cancer, and colon cancer. I have a sneaky suspicion that they will find that heart, breast and colon disease increases with the consumption of artificial, processed foods.
            ~Megs~
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              Re: Low Fat Diets and Women

              they also didn't differentiate the type of fat either so many are already qualifying it by saying they included unhealthy fats like aminal fats grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
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                Re: Low-Fat Diet Won't Stop Cancer or Heart Disease

                The other thing I realized while looking at the data was there were no criteria for the grains, fruits, and vegetables for the study group or the control group. So sure they ate grain products, but I would be interested to know what kind of grain products they ate. Did they eat whole grains or did they eat the refined stuff? They ate vegetables---but what kinds of vegetables did they eat? Same thing for the fruit---did they eat whole fruit or did they drink fruit juices and eat fruit pies? Same thing for their protein sources, did they eat the processed proteins or the protein substitutes or did they eat the unprocessed proteins?

                This is what they have to further examine.
                ~Megs~
                242/141/160 (130)
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                  Re: Low-Fat Diet Won't Stop Cancer or Heart Disease

                  The news media here is saying that the women in this study mght not have really been on a low fat diet. Give me a break, and they didn't include men or children or young women. Personally, I think that it does validate everything we know about fats. They are not the cluprit.



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                    Re: Low-Fat Diet Won't Stop Cancer or Heart Disease

                    Originally posted by Desertthorn
                    The news media here is saying that the women in this study mght not have really been on a low fat diet. Give me a break, and they didn't include men or children or young women. Personally, I think that it does validate everything we know about fats. They are not the cluprit.
                    See that depends on how they define "low fat". The DASH Diet defines "low fat" as 20-35% fat. Ornish defines it as 15-20% fat.

                    As for the study subjects, well, if they really want to get picky about using a larger population with a larger age variety, they have a study that has shown fat intake doesn't really have an effect on the risk of heart disease: The Framingham Heart Study in the early 1990s concluded that. And Framingham is one of the largest and longest on-going population studies in the world.

                    But like you said Lynn, dietary fat is most likely not the "main" factor in heart disease or these two cancers.
                    ~Megs~
                    242/141/160 (130)
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                    5'4", Female, May 2, 2003
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                      Re: Low-Fat Diet Won't Stop Cancer or Heart Disease

                      I am a breast cancer survivor and I truely believe that if any of the fats are culpits its the poisonous trans fats.
                      I had a cardiologist tell me that he has just as many patients who have low cholesterol levels and high cholesterol. Go figure



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                      • #12
                        Re: Low-Fat Diet Won't Stop Cancer or Heart Disease

                        Originally posted by LC_Dave
                        To add Regina Wilshire's response on her Weight of the Evidence blog...
                        Robbie T., 240/180/160. 41yr Male, Height 5'9"
                        Started November 1, 2003. Minor goal (180lbs.) reached Oct. 30, 2004
                        Lowest weight before slacking-off : 175lbs
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