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    Hello,
    I'm new to the board. I hope you will respect my candor. I'm having a problem that is wrecking havoc in my life. Here it goes:

    I did Atkins about five years ago. I needed to lose 10 lbs. It worked wonderfully, however my craving for bread came to haunt me and I sort of went back up to 118 lbs. I'm 5'2". I've always be an avid exerciser. SO getting of Atkins wasn't the worst thing, my weight has always been pretty stable. But Last year I dropped 10 lbs doing what I called a "modifed" Atkins: coffee, high protein (fish, red meat) and more coffee. I was running 35 miles per week. I never looker leaner or felt more self-confident.

    Okay, here's what happened:

    I was in a foul mood most of the time. I was angry and I had a hsort fuse. I was grouchy. My hair was also brittle and splitting at the ends. Then, I ran so much my hip began to hurt. Finally my husband (who is an M.D.) persuaded me to see an orthpaedic surgeon. Low and belhold I had a stress fracture of my hip. It was so painful, I can't even tell you. I hopped aroundon crutches. It was tourtour to not exercise. Anyway, about six months into this I developed bulima. I'm so ashmaed to admit this, but I was running, eating a can of tunafish, downing 12 oz of coffee and then, on occasion, throwing it all up.

    After I was on crutches for 5 weeks I went to the hairdresser to get my monthly dye job (hence the name molecular blonde) and ALL OF MY HAIR BROKE OFF!!! I was in shock. It just fell to the ground. But I wasn't loosing it from my scalp, just about two to three inches from there.


    Okay, to wrap up, and to add insult to inury, the orothpaedic surgeon found a mass in my belly during the MRI and whammo- I had a 5 cm endometrioma. I was still skinny and not eating well. Surgery was six hours, lots of blood loss. They took out my left ovary, fallopian tube and some of my right ovary. Four weeks post-op, I was in the shower and MY HAIR BEGAN TO FALL OUT IN BUNCHES. It was horrifying. In the weeks that passed my scalp became more visible. After three months and after visiting 3 top dematologists, the conclusion was that i have tellogen effluvium. This was at first a blessing: normally the hair grows back after six months. All three dermatologists said that the cause of my hair loss wasn't the diteing and exercise bulimia, but the surgery itself (?). They did their best to comfort me, but the outlook seemed very good. All my test for thyroid/testosterone abornomalaties were excellent. No rogaine, because they thought it would grow back.

    It's been a year since the surgery. My hair stabilized in January, and I was so thankful. It was still thin, but at least it wasn't falling out. Then I began to run really hard again, and down lots of coffee and deny myself most carbs (after all, exercise/diet wasn't the problem, right?) and now my hair is falling out like CRAZY. I can't even tell you how bad it is: I gave a talk at work (I'm a molecular biologist) and all I worried about before the talk was pulling off the hiars on my lapels. It was awful- the hair is everywhere, in the shower, in my car. So I stopped running, tried to eat more carbs (i.e. good carbs) and eveno though I hate it, I onyl exercise once a day. My weight is excellent, 109 at 62 inches. I had my blood work repeated last week, and everything is EXCELLENT. No oituitary tumor, nothing.

    Sorry for the length of this post. Here's the question:

    Has anyone experience hair loss who severly restricts complex carbs and who is an insane maniac about running? I belive in my heart this is the culprit. I think it threw my hair back into telogen effluvium. I am so depressed, I don't even want to go out of my house. I feel like my beautiful chemically blonde hair is like that of a new born chick: thin and wispy.

    I'm in therapy for the eating disorder and for the last year have been on heavy doses of biotin and iron.

    Was it the dieting and exercise that cause my hair loss? Or was it that combined with the major surgery?

    Anything you coupld possibly think of would be greatly appreciated.

    Most sincere thanks-

    - A woman who was desperate to have the perfect body.

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    Re: Please can you offer any advice?

    Hi, Blonde!

    I see that you haven't seen any responses to your thread, and since I was stopping by, I thought I could offer some of my experience...

    First, I have read MANY Threads on here and come across a whole ton of comments that refer to hair loss. The consensus seems to be that the weight loss in and of itself can be stressful enough on your body to trigger periods of excessive hair loss (handfulls, in my case). I would imagine this kind of stress reaction from your body is what your surgeon was referring to when he told you that your operation was responsible for hair loss.

    I am not an avid runner, so I can't comment on this aspect of your query. Maybe someone will be along who can.

    I CAN say, however, that in my 4plus months with the Atkins, I have recently seen a significant decrease in the amount of hair I'm losing. I have no idea if it's because my body has finally accepted that this weight loss trend is just how it's going to be, or if it's because I'm nearing my goal weight and it's ballancing out the stress caused by the dieting. Perhaps your husband (doctor, right?) can shed (haha - no pun intended) some light on that one for us...

    Anyway, best of luck to you. I hope all continues to go well for you and that your recovery from your surgery has been successful. Take care... let us know how you're doing!!!

    S.


    Female/31/5'4'
    SW - 178
    CW - 153
    GW - 143

    Mini-goal1: 163 by April 29, 2006 - CHECK!
    Mini Goal2: 153 by August 15, 2006 - I DID IT!!! Aug. 6/06
    Final Goal : 143 by September 15, 2006

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    • #3
      Re: Please can you offer any advice?

      This board has many folks with eating disorders. Many of us are fat because of emotional problems and so we all feel you pain and want to help.
      I know that hair loss is a part of Atkins diets, but it is temporary, but what you are describing is not from carb restriction, it is from the bulimia itself. You really need to get healthy first and to do that you need to talk to your doctor and have him send you to a nutritionist.
      Keep posting and let us know how your doing.
      ((((Hugs))))



      41 pounds down and counting

      If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else. - Yogi Berra

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      • #4
        Re: Please can you offer any advice?

        Wow I'm sorry I didn't see your post sooner. Yes I have experienced an immense amount of hair loss to the point some people thought I was going through chemo-therapy. I love running. I run about 30 minutes a day. Hence my name "Baldskinny".. Let me ask you a question. I know you said you are a caffiene-aholic, but have you ever taken any diet supplements with Ephedra or thermogenic blends? The reason I ask is because after the birth of my daughter i took an Ephedra based product that enabled me to lose over 75lbs. I felt great and my body looked great. The only downfall was I was almost completely bald. My hairdresser commented on how thin my hair had become. I understand that you have had your Thyroid checked. I also found out, after the fact there is an herb called Bladderwrack that is often put in many diet supplements to speed metabolism by messing with your thyroid glands. Unfortunatly for me I now have two very large lumps on either side of my Thyroid. I have had multiple biopsys to ensure it is not cancer and my thyroid levels are normal (therefore they don't want to remove them) but the lumps will be there for the rest of my life. One is the size of a golfball the other a grapefruit.

        One suggestion I have is taking Vitamin E, and possibly a calcium supplement. I wish you the best and feel free to PM me if you need someone to chat with about this. I'm certain with weight loss, the hair loss is normal add stress to that and I know i pull out handfulls and my car is covered and my office chair etc.
        ~Baldskinny
        Female 5'7
        Original Atkins 5/30/06
        Restart 6/19/08
        SW 197
        Long Term Goal 140

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        • #5
          Re: Please can you offer any advice?

          hey baldskinny

          I had kind of the same problem but that was when i was at my heaviest (around 198 lbs on a 5' 4' person) I lost a lot of hair and also didnt have my period for about a year.
          Maybe I should also mention that i used to be around 126 lbs and had a sudden weight gain over the last 2 years

          I had everything checked out like you, cancer, thyroids etc.... and what my doctor came to the conclusion (afer several blood tests) that all this weigh gain had my body for some reason producing more testosterone , hence not getting my period. !! AND MY HAIR FALLING OUT

          he prescribed me to get on the pill and gave me a special one with added estrogene.

          also my dermatologist mixed me up a mixture to put on my hair every nite.

          And last but not least, your body is lacking vitamins, make sure u get a good multivitamin and take it daily with ur food .

          These three things together helped my re grow my hair !!!

          ohh and the fact that my mum told me to keep eating hazelnuts , for some reason she said they make my hair grow. well i did eat them in bunches to be extra sure

          Hope this helps !!!
          Last edited by Bellezza; July 1, 2006, 05:49 PM. Reason: forgot somethin

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          • #6
            Re: Please can you offer any advice?

            Thank you all so much for posting replies.


            I apologize for the many typographical errors in my post. I was crying and typing and in an awful state.

            I hope it did not come across in my post that I'm blaming Atkin's plan for my hair loss. I was being silly with that type of exercising and getting such poor nutrition.

            Laker 75-
            Thank you for your kind words of concern. I so much appreciate it.

            Desert-
            You are correct- the bulimia must be the culprit, and the surgery perhaps added insult to injury. I was running an insane amount. I once fainted after a run. I'm better now. Not as thin, but better. Thank you for you reply.

            Baldskinny-
            you must be my twin. Thank you for your honest reply. I was throwing up a lot, but unlike you I never took any type of diet pill, not even Trim Spa. My program was: drink coffee, run six miles, drink a diet pepsi eat a small salad and that was that. I was throwing up perhaps three times per week. But now I have stopped completely (both running and throwing up) and I "just" do step class and spin. It keeps me trim, but not as thin as I was when I ran.

            Thank you for your suggestion about vitamin E. Currently I'm taking a "hair" vitamin that has biotin and 50% of the RDA of vitamin E. Perhaps I should take more?

            I can't tell you how much I *miss* my hair. I used to always wear it in a thick pony tail and now i'm too afraid to even comb it

            Bell-
            Thanks for your reply. I just had my LH, FSH and testosterone levels checked again, things are fine. I wonder if I'm some how missing an estrogen drop during the month? It changes and can be low and vary day to day. I've missed several peroids, my doc said I could be peri-menopausal.


            Thank you all for listening. I am so embarrassed that I posted this, but in a way relieved because I can't focus on anything but this awful problem. I don't want to be bald. I can't bear the sight of my reflection. I'm thinking more and more that it wasn't the surgery but my bulimia. The irony is that although I was thin (an still am) I wasn't Nicole Richie (anorexic socialite). I mean I wasn't 90 lbs or anything.

            Thanks again. I pray this will work itself out.

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            • #7
              Re: Please can you offer any advice?

              I am sorry about what is going on with you now and hope you find some peace in your life soon ...I am one person here who does not believe that hairloss is a "normal" part of doing Atkins...I personally believe if you are eating a variety of foods ...not just one food but a bunch of things from the list ..and taking vits you should not loose hair.....hairloss is not good symptom of anything ...and I object to it being called a normal temporary thing that happens with the Atkins plan....if you are loosing hair then something is wrong and you need to correct it ....

              we are supposed to be promoting health not making things worse...so where hairloss/breakage is concerned ..something is being sacrificed that should not be and you should figure out where it is and correct it...

              I wish you luck in your endeavor towards wellness there is hope and a perfect body is the one you were given to begin with ....hopefully you will see that and embrace your beauty ..because honestly ..it is there ....and nurturing it not punishing it is what we should be about you know

              look for support here ....but continue your plan to work on your eating disorder with a healthcare provider

              my heart goes out to you ..it is not easy to look in the mirror and see what is really there ..I know that OOOXXX

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              • #8
                Re: Please can you offer any advice?

                I just wanted to add that after all your body has been through, it's probably taken a toll on it and it needs to heal through healthy eating, healthy exercise and less stress.

                Caffeine, too much exercise, too much stress or adrenaline, loss of other hormones due to your surgery, improper diet could cause issues. Some untracked condition could too.

                Atkins done right shouldn't lead to hair loss that doesn't recover, so it's likely one of the above things that has caused you issues.

                If you are at your goal weight, you should be at maintenance levels for Atkins so make sure you are eating well and eating enough.

                Being thin isn't necessarily any more healthy for your body as being overweight, especially if you are not eating right.

                It sounds like you are making good steps to getting healthy. You may want to post your typical menu on the board here for people to review and maybe they can see things to tweak to make sure you are eating healthy.

                I wish you luck.
                Start date: 2/22/04 347/222/135 ~ 5'2"
                STAC Restart: 1/05/09
                306/229/135 ~ 5'2" 77 lbs down!

                Goal #1: 247 - 2nd 10% (59lbs, 247, also 100 lbs total loss) - Met 1/4/10!!!
                Goal #2: 241 - Halfway to goal! (106 lbs lost) - Met 2/21/10!!!

                Goal #3: 222 - 3rd 10% - Lowest Atkins weight
                Goal #4: 210 - Still on track!
                Goal #5: 200/199 - 4th 10% - One-derland! End year goal!
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                • #9
                  Re: Please can you offer any advice?

                  Hey MolecularBlonde,

                  I agree with Heidi...hair loss is not normal while on Atkins. It's an indication of something missing in your diet.

                  I can understand how important your hair is to you by the name you have chosen but just remember that your hair is not who you are. Who you are is what's deep down inside of you and you need to find that and learn to love it. I really hate the whole fashion industry who tries to dictate how a woman should look. There should be some laws against all that 'cause it's causing so many eating disorders in our children and in ourselves. We are all beautiful at any size or weight. Weight loss is about being healthy, not about reaching a weight and size like the models in the magazines.

                  Have you ever tried Atkins according to the book? It is truely a very healthy way of eating if followed properly. Are you drinking a lot of water? Exercise is good but can also be abused just like over-eating. Everything in moderation.

                  I hope you stick around and let us know how you're doing. You take care of yourself.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Please can you offer any advice?

                    This may seem silly, but are you still bleaching your hair? Very often over processing will lead to shedding.
                    I've lost hair but my culprit was my birth control. It caused something called androgenic alopecia. I've gotten the shed to stop by switching BC and now I just need to get it to grow back (the tough part).
                    I hope you find your way back to good health and nutrition. Being skinny is nice and all but really feeling *well* is much better.
                    Erin
                    Female
                    5'7" 235 lbs Size 18

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                    • #11
                      Re: Please can you offer any advice?

                      Thank you so much for the new replies.
                      Heidi3:
                      Your quote:
                      "we are supposed to be promoting health not making things worse...so where hairloss/breakage is concerned ..something is being sacrificed that should not be and you should figure out where it is and correct it..."

                      I know you're right. I was so "high" on caffeine and running and I was vomiting several times a week. The "feedback" from others was so stimulating: "you look sooooooooooooo thin and toned" and I felt "in control" and invincible. How sick is that? How twisted is that? I feel so *empty* inside. Everything was about my appearance. How sick and sad.

                      Kitty:
                      "I just wanted to add that after all your body has been through, it's probably taken a toll on it and it needs to heal through healthy eating, healthy exercise and less stress.

                      Caffeine, too much exercise, too much stress or adrenaline, loss of other hormones due to your surgery, improper diet could cause issues. Some untracked condition could too.

                      Atkins done right shouldn't lead to hair loss that doesn't recover, so it's likely one of the above things that has caused you issues."

                      Kitty, thank you so much for this advice/comment. If oyu saw my hair now you wouldn't belive it: brittle, dry, and thin. I could show you a picture form two years ago, I looked like Farrah Fawcet (sp?). I'm very inscure and I focus on my appearnce quite a bit. I feel like I haven't much too offer. Be nice is difficult, I'm often moody and down. I'm on meds now (Wellbutrin) but it doesn't seem to help. Thanks for your support.

                      Wanna:
                      "I can understand how important your hair is to you by the name you have chosen but just remember that your hair is not who you are. Who you are is what's deep down inside of you and you need to find that and learn to love it. I really hate the whole fashion industry who tries to dictate how a woman should look. There should be some laws against all that 'cause it's causing so many eating disorders in our children and in ourselves. We are all beautiful at any size or weight. Weight loss is about being healthy, not about reaching a weight and size like the models in the magazines. "

                      I hate myself on the inside. WHen I got thinner last year I felt more "attractive" and thus became a sweeter, kinder more upbeat person. Does this make sense? I felt good about me. Even when I knew vomiting up my meals was stupid. I felt in control. I felt more attractive to my husband. The irony is that he doesn't care for super-thin women. But I felt like being thin= being superior, or some silly thing like that. I was never attractive growing up and had few friends. When I died my hair years ago I got attention. When I got even thinner last year I got more attention. It's sick, but it's this weird type of feedback. Since I don't have many friends who like me for "me" I use the compliments on my appearnce and evidence of love from other. I know this is awful.

                      Erin-
                      Yes, still bleaching my hair. My hair dresser won't put it on my scalp b/c of the hair loss. THe 3 dermatolgists didn't advise me against doing it. But of course, it's not helping matters. Today my scalp is sore and I pulled my hair back to go to spin class this morning. Trying to cover up the thin areas. Erin I'm so scared to lose my hair, I feel like beign blonde is my identity. How nuts is that? GOsh why can't I just be Christie Brinkley or someone super-confident like Oprah. SOmeone who is repsected and nice and confident. My husband begs me to get confidence. He's says it's sexy.

                      Thanks for everything-
                      MB

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                      • #12
                        Re: Please can you offer any advice?

                        honey go see someone now ..you need a lot of help and this is too much for a diet board ...seriously ..... from what is writen you are in crisis level and there are as you know I am sure ..people to call ..so for your own sake ...just do it ...

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                        • #13
                          Re: Please can you offer any advice?

                          Last year my hair was falling out by the hand fulls. I mean literally. I felt horrible too. I, too, was VERY grouchy and really thought I was loosing it. This went on for about 3 months. My DH finally looked at me and said,"YOU NEED TO GO TO THE DOCTOR." I did just that. Luckily my doctor is great and he new what my problem was immediately. I was Hyperthyroid! So, he sent me to a thyroid specialist and I was diagnosed with Post Partum Thyroiditus. I went from hyperthyroid to hypothyroid and back to normal after about 1 year. I was put on medication (don't remember the name) but it is given to heart patients to help with the servere anxiety, severe sweating & heart palpations, and just plain feeling terrible. I only had to take that for about 3 months while in the HYPERthyroid stage. I am normal now.

                          Anyway, you might have your thyroid checked it will definitely cause great HAVOC in ones life if not functioning properly. I mean this when I say that I literally thought I was dying at one point.

                          Please ask your doctor about this.
                          5'5" Female
                          SW 175/CW 172/GW130






                          1st Mini Goal - 165
                          2nd Mini Goal - 155
                          3rd Mini Goal - 145
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                          10/2/08


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                          • #14
                            Re: Please can you offer any advice?

                            Bless your heart, molecularblonde! I did not have hair loss since starting Atkins.

                            Like it has been suggested, please see someone. You have more power and strength than you think.

                            In the mean time, go wig shopping. There are sooo many cool styles. You can get 100% human hair and have it styled in the Jennifer Aniston, the Halle Berry, the Oprah, or the Anna Nicole (see my avatar for a visual). Wigs are so IN right now and the best thing is: you get to choose every feature of it, unlike the rest of us who have to work with what we've got!

                            Be Blessed.
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                            • #15
                              Re: Please can you offer any advice?

                              Bellezza - You mentioned not having your period. I have been doing Atkins for 2 months now and this month I had all the signs and symptoms (cramps, etc) but it never came. I recently had my tubes tied but have had regular periods. A friend mentioned to me that Atkins can make you miss periods but I had never heard that before. Anyone else have this problem. At what point do I contact my doctor?

                              Thanks for all of the help and advice on this site. It has been a true motivator to me!
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