Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

5 A day craze in UK and distortion

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • 5 A day craze in UK and distortion

    I don't know if you have heard of this in the USA but Britain is in the grip of the 5-a-day craze. I understand that some government nutritionist wrote in a report a few years back that it would be quite a good thing if everyone ate 5 portions of fresh veggies and fresh fruit a day. He might have said 4, or 6, but he settled on 5, for no particular scientific reason.

    Anyway, a few years down the line and almost everyone in the UK is treating this as the Eleventh Commandment; as a scientific fact, as if it had been written in a Manual of how to care for the human body given to Moses or something.

    It's always quoted as 5-a-day for everyone, and that cannot be right because we all have different needs: a 6ft 7 bodybuilder's needs can't be the same as a 3-year-old's, surely?

    As all Atkineers know, fresh veggies are good for you! It's the perversion and distortions that are really, really irritating me right now.

    You see, members of the general public do not have copies of the original report. They are relying on 2nd, 3rd and 4th hand knowledge. The original recommendations are filtered down through various ignorant people (doctors, journalists, tv presenters) who are perverting the original information.

    For example, I have repeatedly seen various media (tv, magazines, papers, radio) actually say that potatoes, sweetcorn, peas and fruit juices count towards this "5-a-day". Corn is a grain! Potatoes are tubers and peas are pulses. Green Giant Sweetcorn even has "One of your 5-a-day" on the label. And don't even get me started on fruit juice!

    [Semi-sarcastic aside]
    If corn is one of the 5-a-day then we must allow wheat, and thus bread, and thus bagels and croissants and muffins and cookies! If potatoes are OK, then french fries can count as 5-a-day, surely? A McDonalds burger contains bread, fries and a slice of dill pickle, that's three of your five a day isn't it?

    Yesterday I watched a cable TV programme that instructed parents on how to make a child's daily packed lunch according to the 5-a-day guidelines. Some of the "ideal" lunches contained a bag of grapes, a banana, a box of raisins and a carton of fruit juice - all of them very highly concentrated sources of fructose! And the ONLY vegetable shown being packed into a child's lunch box was .... carrots! ... a very high G.I. vegetable!

    Now, don't get me wrong, I'd rather children ate fruit and juice than chocolate and cola drinks, but what is now being pushed as the "ideal" packed lunch comprises mainly sweet items that will encourage and nurture a sweet tooth, cause an insulin rush and a resultant comedown/crash afterwards. A lot of thinking parents are starting to recognise the connection between bad behaviour and insulin surges and crashes. Orange juice has also been shown to corrode children's teeth.

    Cases of diabetes have risen exponentially in the past few years, and this healthy-eating 5-a-day craze is supposed to be addressing that too. I fail to see how encouraging children to eat large amounts of fructose is going to protect them from diabetes.

    I am pretty sure the original report did not recommend that children be given huge doses of concentrated fructose, but that is what distortion has led to.

    I do understand that children can more easily be persuaded to eat a lot of sweet things for lunch than, say, bits of cauliflower and cold, boiled sprouts!

    I wonder if anyone would like to comment on the above?
    F49, 5'3"
    SW 342/CW 339/GW 200

    No chocolate 7 weeks - we are witnessing a miracle here!
    No cheats 4 weeks. Longest ever!
    No-weighing (I get too obsessed!)

    SWIMMING /WATER AEROBICS PAGE

    http://www.hastingspress.co.uk/swimnotgym.html9

    JOURNAL:

    http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36193

  • #2
    Re: 5 A day craze in UK and distortion

    Oh the power of the media to blow things up and distort them! Sooo irritating! And people are like sheep... they read, follow and spread the distortion without really thinking things out for themselves.
    I'd never heard about the 5-a-day thing. It hasn't reached Italy, thank heavens....yet!
    Before and after:






    PLEDGING FLIGHTS
    Completed: 1st set of buildings and mountains (Everest,M.Blanc & Kilimanjaro, twice); Tower Masts & Chimneys; More virtual buildings; Challenger's Choice x 2 (volcanos and mountains on Mars). Currently climbing: Mount Snowdon again: 416/475

    Start 10 Jan 2005. Maintenance since Aug. 2005.
    F/56yrs/5'.4"
    SW:77.7 LW:56.5 CW:60.1 (kilos)

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: 5 A day craze in UK and distortion

      we have had the 5 a day but it is servings and according to our USDA atkins inductees eat more then 5 a day as most serving sizes are onbly 1/2 cup raw.Not2late has a topic about this somewehere
      by the book atkinseer

      started 6/1/02 at 313
      goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


      Comment


      • #4
        Re: 5 A day craze in UK and distortion

        Oh man, you would think by now that people would realise that not every bit of info that comes at them is gospel - this herd mentality is scary, as the people who comunicate this stuff are NOT qualified, yet they are listened to. What happened to independent thought?

        Got to say, haden't heard about this (I haven't lived in the UK in a few years), but WOW, scary to hear about.

        BTW love the McDonals asside!! :0

        Kay
        ---------------------------------------------------------------------
        SW Too High!
        / CW Getting Smaller (I'm estimating 320) / GW 150
        Mini goal - register on the scales (the ones my trainer uses only go up to 300!)
        F / 31
        One second, one minute, one hour at a time, this woe is making me healthier!


        Comment


        • #5
          Re: 5 A day craze in UK and distortion

          Hey Jane,

          I quite like the way the campaign has been quite big because, as that Jamie Oliver school meals thing showed, some kids in lower income areas were get less than one serving a day, which is obrviously not good.

          However, I totally agree about the definitons and the way the marketing people have jumped on the bandwagon. It really annoys me when I see the little symbol on baked beans! and sweetcorn as you say (I thought it was free of nutrients, which is why the French don't tend to eat it).

          Baarb

          My Journal :rollerska :bouncy: 27 Female 5'7 :redsnoopy

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: 5 A day craze in UK and distortion

            Originally posted by Waterbabe_Helena
            I don't know if you have heard of this in the USA but Britain is in the grip of the 5-a-day craze. I understand that some government nutritionist wrote in a report a few years back that it would be quite a good thing if everyone ate 5 portions of fresh veggies and fresh fruit a day. He might have said 4, or 6, but he settled on 5, for no particular scientific reason.
            The reason they settled on 5 was probably because we are told to have three meals and two snacks per day (so one piece with each). It's very similar to the units of alcohol thing - 7 units for women or 14 units for men per week... it's because it fits in nicely with the fact that there's 7 days in a week.

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: 5 A day craze in UK and distortion

              i remember following the 'minimum 5-a-day' fruit guideline before doing atkins. it's a recipe for a sugar crash since i tended to eat more carbs because of it..i had fruit and oatmeal breakfasts and was crashing 2 hours later
              5'4
              SW: 123 lbs
              CW: 119 lbs

              GW1: 115 lbs
              GW2: 112 lbs
              GW3: 110 lbs

              UGW: ?
              JANUARY MILEAGE CHALLENGE 5.6/80
              <<started challenge monday, jan 8, late starter.

              Comment


              • #8
                Re: 5 A day craze in UK and distortion

                An example is in American lunchrooms, where they DO consider french fries or tater tots a vegetable. I always love to hear that everyone is more overweight and they get tater tots for lunch because they are pushing more veggies.

                editing to say: I meant school lunchrooms.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Re: 5 A day craze in UK and distortion

                  French Fries as a veggie?! What an outrage!!


                  26 yr 5'2 F
                  Did Atkins on and off from Feb 2005 until April 2008. Fluctuated between 15 st 1/211lbs and 11 st 1/155lbs.
                  On different weightloss programme from 28th May 2008 start weight 14 st 11/207lbs.
                  Current weight 10st 3lbs/143lbs.
                  Ultimate Goal Weight 9 st/126lbs.

                  Comment

                  Working...
                  X