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    Hi!
    Ive done the Atkins Diet when i was younger (now 33) and i must say i think it is the only Diet who brings results. However in the Age of 20 i got Rheumatism and Athritis, it is said that the diet can cause this.
    I dont know if it is so, but i am overweight like about 20 kilos and I would like to ask :

    Is it bad for me to do the Diet because of the athritis problem, is the Atkins Diet dangerous afterward?

    I do now 14 days a kind of low carb diet, not so strict, i mean i include more salads and some apples, and I lost so far 3 kilos, and i excersize but summer is comming and i really wanna get rid of my fat once forever, and i am Strong to handle it.. i could even stop eating for a month, I have so much anger that i am and was overweight for my whole life.


    please give me advice if i get big risks with this diet or if that is just a bunch of people (other Scientists) who are jealous of Mr Atkins and speak so negative about this diet.

    Thank You !

    Jason
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    Last edited by Jason_C; May 15, 2009, 01:38 PM.

  • #2
    Re: is the Diet Dangerous?

    im sure the diet is perfectly safe other scientists always do crap like that saying the diet is bad for some retarded reason

    the Atkins diet cures many diseases im positive the diet will help you

    but anyways for people with athritis problems you should avoid these foods

    nightshades, eggplant, potatoes, gluten, corn, soy, diary, aspartame

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    • #3
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      TY for your answer.

      As i said allready i did this diet many years ago in my puberty. I searched the House and found the Book, though in a bad condition. I allready ordered a new book. While reading, this time ina more mature age, I must say im very enthusiastic about this diet. I think It is the only affective diet and the purpose is, no hunger, and fast results which give a huge motivation. I allready lost lot of weight in the first 10 days though I wasnt going so much after the plan. Today i bought Vitamins C and B which i will take 1000mg every day. And peeing sticks to do the urine Tests, But I think i will do intoition 1 week instead of two and then will include more salads and maybe some green aples who are fat burners aswell

      It is obvious that in the society we live we are poisoned of the carbonhydrates, and that together with the working stress causes all this bad difunctioning in our organism.

      Im positive that losing the weight and keeping low carb for the rest of my life will defenetly change a lot in my life.

      I suffer also from Phobias, during the diet I had again a Panic attack, i didnt have it for long time, i think it must be caused of the low surar amount in the blood. I hope this will get fixed soon.

      good luck to everyone from us.

      Jason

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      • #4
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        WOW, i looked up on the internet about the nightshades, VERY INTERESTING !
        thank yuo very much!

        I have this Rheumatism Athritis, about 10 years now, it was so bad that i couldnt even whipe my as alone.. tragedy. But now i am ok, sometimes i have a crisis with pains. I use a stong medicene 2 times a week, and used to take cortizon etc..

        Doctors are so pationate with their medication... I wodner if i stop eating potatos and tomatoes which where plenty in my food habits.. if then i wouldnt have ever pain again... so interesting...

        thanks a lot

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        • #5
          Re: is the Diet Dangerous?

          I have arthritis in my hands and feet - since I started Atkins my joints have stopped hurting because I'm not putting chemically concocted food into my body. I don't drink or eat anything with aspartame in it, 95% of the time I eat at home so I know exactly what is in each mouthful.

          You say you have panic attacks when on the diet -- I have just the opposite - I haven't had a single panic attack since I've been on plan and I'm a Type 2 diabetic so I HAVE to keep my sugar levels low. There are meds you can get for panic - I was on them for awhile but have learned how to function without them and have been able to keep what triggered them under control.

          The food I now eat is wholesome it has little to no preservatives, chemicals or other crap. Unlike Nutri-system and Jenny Craig my meals don't come out of a box with plastic wrap on top. I don't have to count points or calories like on Weight Watchers. I eat food that tastes good and is my choice.

          You say you have "so much anger that i am and was overweight for my whole life" - then use that anger to your advantage - get on plan the right way (not your way) according to the 2002 DANDR book, start an exercise plan immediately, drink AT LEAST 64 ounces of pure water a day and take supplements. The plan won't work if you don't follow it so your success is up to you. There are too many people who have success stories on this site for this to be a dangerous way of eating....I wouldn't put my health at risk if it were. If you really thought it was dangerous why would you be considering it?

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          • #6
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            imagood1 TY for your detailed answer! I have ordered the book, but dont have it yet in my hands, I do the diet as i remember it from the past, though i eat also cucumber and a bit garlic in my salad.. i dont know if its allowed in the first 2 weeks, but i dont think those stuff will extend the 40gr carbs a day.
            I think the Panic attacks where there because suddenly the body didnt get candy, and alcohol.. and its a transition... i believe too that the diet in long run will defenetly help it... I have generaly become a very scary person.. unsecure of lot of stuff, so it was really good to hear from you people. to go on with the diet and not to be scared... and i do so.

            I wouldnt concider my self fat, im just overweight about 15KG, and that 90% of my life. I do bad to my heart, to my joints and to my psychology, all this have to stop once foreve.. im 33 and i was thinking that i allready lost many years of my life beeing happy...

            I do sports, I do walking about 5km every second day, and yesterday sinve i lost 4Kg i started windsurfing again... but my knees allready complaining.. the weight must off!

            no aspartame? I am an absolutely Coke victim, and addict, like many people on this planet. Money rules the world ! Coke is so dangerous for health as smoking, imagine all that sugar in a real coke.. this is crazy..
            however once a while i join a can of diet coke, i try not to over do it, like 2,max 3 cans in a week, and try to avoid it permanently.

            In an older book as i said i stil have from Dr. Atkins, there is a paragraph which he claims that the power of all that companies like coke etc, and because of the Market and the sugar industrie it did not come to light, the truth about the alergies carbs and sugar etc causes to the people.

            My advantage however is that i never was a guy for candy, i mean im not into it so much.. ok once a while a chocolate or so but not much, I got fat mostly because of , BREAD,SPAGHETTTI,PIZZA,POTATOES and of course.... BEER
            I want to eat thosre things again defenetly because they are tasty, but i dont know yet how.. i mean when im thin, i could eat one day fried potatoes and a pizza and after it the next 3 days a mini diet again.. I dont know.. first of all i will lose the 15 Kilos I ASSURE YOU ALL OF THAT !

            Thank you very much for listening!

            Jason

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            • #7
              Re: is the Diet Dangerous?

              Those foods that you consider so tasty now might not be tasty anymore especially if your successful and you lose those 15 kilos. If I were you I would never want to eat the foods that made me fat in the first place plus if you dont take this as a Way Of Life then you are going to go right back where you were in the first place or worse!

              There are substitutes for the foods you mentioned...read around, find them and try them out and that way you wont miss the food that you think you cant live without.
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              • #8
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                i think your taste buds are the last thing to change on this diet but i think about 8 months into the diet your taste buds will start too change and with in a year or two you will no longer want pizza , spagetti etc

                this is one of the things that make the diet so easy to go on for life but you have to exp it for yourself cause theres no way you could know what it feels like to have your taste buds change and no longer want pizza or spagetti

                also make sure you avoid omega-6 polyunsaturated vegetable oils found in things like margin cause they are part responsible for heart disease so eat butter instead

                remmber to get lots of Omega-3

                and remmber to follow the Atkins diet 100% your food % should be around

                65% Fat 30% protein 5% carbs

                20 net carbs at the start and eat lots of fat so it gets your metabolism to change from a glucose burning one to a fat burning one

                and drink extra extra water during weight loss

                and just read lots of stuff on these forums for more info

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                • #9
                  Re: is the Diet Dangerous?

                  Hi, Jason

                  I have put together some information to help those who are starting/re-starting the Atkins WOE (way of eating). Check this out: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...-new-read.html I've included some tips, and a lot of great links to help you navigate the board. Among them are the Rules of Induction and the Acceptable Foods List. This will help you while you are waiting for your book to arrive.

                  Good Luck!


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                  • #10
                    Re: is the Diet Dangerous?

                    rheumatoid arthritis is an autoimmune disease and i seriously doubt eating less sugar gives you autoimmune diseases. the only serious issues you will experience on atkins are as follows.
                    a couple weeks of whining because you're craving sugar
                    a massive drop in your weight
                    a massive raise in confidence
                    less illness
                    better sleep
                    stronger skin, hair, and nails
                    no more carb comas
                    replacing that anger with pride

                    this is of course, if you do it right. no frankenfoods, no cheating and bingeing, no over eating, drink your water every day, work out, no 'all meat' days, avoiding processed meat and cheese, etc etc etc.
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                    • #11
                      Re: is the Diet Dangerous?

                      I appreciate your help so much ! thnak you.

                      I think i did the diet so far instinctly correct. I remembered that i have to eat proteins and no carbs, theres nothing difficult in that.

                      what i did not know is that i have to try to eat fat, thats a problem because i was never a fan of fat. On meat or chicken skin its ok i have no problem to eat it, i use a bit olive oli in the salad and preparing the egs in the pan but thats it, maybe i start melting some butter on the meat.

                      I would like to ask you something to understand the logic of this concept please,... if the body burns fat instead of carbs, it has a limit to burn every day so if i feed the body fat, why not use the fat i fed it and use the fat of the body to burn it?

                      another very important question for me is, a normal person, a for his life always been thin person... the body it self, i mean.. the most common and the most normal opn this planet, IS IT MADE TO BURN CARBS AND FUNCTION? OR TO BURN FAT AND FUNCTION?

                      yesterday sitting on the couch after 2 weeks diet.. i was htinking.. if you where absoloutely free to eat now what you want.. what would this be?

                      funny.. but my absoloute whish was an APPLE to have the whish for a juicy nice green apple... im positive im on the right way and i dont even have to pee on a stripe to see its color is lila

                      thanks again for all you people.. ill try also to find some time to point on a foto and make a profile some time..

                      THANKS

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                      • #12
                        Re: is the Diet Dangerous?

                        your questions are easy for me to awnser

                        IS IT MADE TO BURN CARBS AND FUNCTION? OR TO BURN FAT AND FUNCTION?

                        fat burning metabolisms are the natural way are bodys are supos to be and have been for over 99% of are entire existence

                        the only chance are bodys had too switch to a glucose/carb burning metabolisms was maybe 2 months out of each year when lots of fruit was ready to eat before winter

                        and the only high carb food available year round was honey but it was guarded by bees and back then we did not have protective clothes to defend vs the bee stings and such so we most likely did not get much honey


                        the Atkins diet is alot like the diet of are ancestors you can see an example of it with natives and eskimos when they ate there high fat atkin like diets in the past they were all very healthy and strong but now with there unnatural ridiculously high carb toxic diets they have all become ill

                        high blood sugar is toxic to the body and to fix it the body releases insulin to mop it up and are bodys were never ment to go year after year endureing high blood sugar abuse

                        for alot of people the end result is type 2 diabetes thats when you are insulin resistant and once your body can no longer stop the harmful blood sugar spikes they will reach your kidneys and permanently damage them and if it gos on for too long you will need a kidney transplant

                        this is why Dr Atkins asked all type 2 diabetes people to get a creatine blood test done to see what shape there kidneys are in


                        but ya carbs taste good for a reason because they were ment to be available for only 2 months out of each year

                        when you eat lots of select carbs like sugar from fruit your body produces more insulin to mop it up and insulin is the fat storing hormone

                        so in other words by eating high amounts of carbs your ordering your body to store fat

                        so for alot of people it does not matter what you do if you keep eating carbs and keep telling your body to store fat you wont lose any fat


                        another thing to know is fruit is not like the fruit are ancestors ate fruit in today is not the same fruit of the past it has way more sugar added into it by mans way of growing it

                        thats why its better to eat berries they are more natural and alot better for you

                        eating around 65% fat 30% protein 5% carbs is not hard to do at all for example a chicken egg is 61% fat just add some butter to that and your over 65% fat

                        the Atkins diet cures and prevents many many diseases

                        the reasons why you need to eat so much fat are to help your body switch to a fat burning metabolism

                        and to keep your metabolism running at top speeds you dont want it to slow down you wont feel very good

                        your body will naturally go to its healthy weight by doing the Atkins diet and exercise

                        try and do weight lifting body building types of exercise and not just cardio

                        the Atkins diet will make your muscles insulin sensitive so the little glucose you do eat will go straight to them and not be used to make fat so thats why its extra good to do heavy weight lifting while on the diet

                        and if your muscles ever did need more glucose than from the carbs you eat the protein you eat has a 56 or 57% conversion rate to non blood sugar spikeing glucose so your muscles will get the power from the protein you eat

                        i think once your metabolism is healed from the Atkins diet the protein converted glucose are always good unlike the glucose from carbohydrates which spike your blood sugars

                        during the start of the diet i think its best to eat high fat , medium protein , low carb

                        then about 8 months into the diet you can eat high fat , high protein , low carb

                        i think you can eat up to 50-80?? carbohydrates a day while still keeping your muscles insulin sensitive not counting protein

                        remmber eating high fat does not cause heart disease or any disease for that matter

                        the only possible time fat can have undesirable results is when mixing high carbohydrates with it cause carbohydrates interfere with your body from being able to use fat properly

                        the average dietitian doctor is retarded but luckily more and more are smartening up and figureing out this common sense

                        anyways if you want to get healthy learn about the Atkins diet and follow it 100% reading all the things on these forums will help you alot

                        just spend time reading all the peoples posts on the Atkins forums so you learn things like to drink extra extra water during the massive weight loss during the start cause you need to flush the toxins out of your fat or something and to expect the induction flu

                        and also if you want to research things il give you some weblinks

                        Top Ten Nutritional Myths, Distortions and Lies That Will Destroy Your Health.

                        Diabetes - The Cause, Prevention, Treatment and Control of Hypoglycemia and Types 1 & 2 Diabetes.

                        Reversing Heart Disease, Heart Attack, Coronary Artery Disease, Stents, LDL and HDL Cholesterol., Lifestyle and Diet Success Stories.

                        Meat and mortality | The Blog of Michael R. Eades, M.D.

                        YouTube - BODY BY SCIENCE 5 (The Science Of Fat Loss -- Part 1)

                        YouTube - BODY BY SCIENCE 5 (The Science Of Fat Loss -- Part 2)

                        The Saturated Fat & Cholesterol Myth Destroyed!! | MuscleHack

                        YouTube - Why You Got Fat

                        A clear explanation of why low carb diets work. (article)

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                        • #13
                          Re: is the Diet Dangerous?

                          Dear frinds...

                          its only few months ago that i had posted this here, ...

                          i lost 20 kilos !! in 3-1/2 months ! and now i have to buy new clothes

                          if i lose another 5 ill be perfect i guess...

                          together with the diet i did a lot of sports also..

                          for about 2 months now i didnt gain any weight.. but i really eat quit normal.. even bread or a cake or ice cream once here and there... but i dont over do it.

                          I did it ! and i wish luck to all others stil trying...

                          the knowledge and the book of course is one thing, but to have a very strong motivation is the key to everything. for me it was that i wanted to go windsurfing and i wasnt able so fat... find your motivation and the main reason you love to lose weight and stick to it ! the goal is for sure !

                          Thank you Dr. Atkins!

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                          • #14
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                            Congratulations, Jason!

                            p.s. Maybe you can change your Atkins phase from Induction to pre-Maintenance or Maintenance?
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