Chocoholic serial failer

[niko772]

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Oh boy...do I know the fix you're in. You CAN do Atkins and succeed...even while weaning yourself off of the chocolate. I had to do it and it's hard...and sometimes I fail, but get right back on plan immediately. Walden Farm's products will be your new best friend. I get mine at Kroger. They actually have a fat free, carb free, sugar free chocolate dipping sauce. When the cravings got to the point where I was about to lose it, I'd go to the icebox and get a spoon full of it. The craving was satisfied and I continued to lose weight.

One thing, however.........it tastes horrible with pork rinds...ICK! There are some things you just can't do with those things..lol.

[Nancy Mo]

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When I get the craving, I need someone to lock me in a room like a recovering heroin addict.

How did you get through the day when the craving bites right into you till it makes you want to scream?

Well LastChance, why don't you just go ahead and SCREAM??? Maybe that will help your mind snap out of its pity party of always wanting chocolate!

Is this YOUR LAST CHANCE or NOT?

When are you going to get tired of a little thing like milk chocolate having CONTROL over YOU? Aren’t you so sick and tired of BEING sick and tired? Then do it – SCREAM!!! When you’re alone, go into your shower or car or anywhere, and just scream the h*ll out of that ADDICTION!! Tell it where to go! YOU TAKE CONTROL!!!

Like my grandma would say, "Grab your nuts and do it!!" She was so cool!

It's a FIGHT - between what YOU want and what our MINDS/BODIES want!!! It's time WE take control of IT!!!

YOU (the REAL you, that looks through those eyes) have to get so damn mad at IT (that horrible, selfish, childish, and FAT part of us that is spoiled rotten with foods) that you deprive it of its deadly desires. Give it a *itch slap (sorry for that, but it fits) every time it sticks its fat ugly head up wanting chocolate. Every time if craves chocolate, get MAD and punish it with a pork chop or two, or a fat juicy grilled steak! STOP BEING A SLAVE TO IT - MAKE IT A SLAVE TO YOU!!

Get MAD at IT LASTCHANCE, or it WILL be your last chance. Who's going to win? The fat ugly ADDICTION or YOU, the wonderful person who is waiting to bust out of those ugly disgusting layers of fat !?!?! Besides, it’s that chocolate that helped get us in this body anyway, why would you be loyal to IT? It’s a lose/lose situation.

I know where you’re coming from LASTCHANCE; I’m the person who would hit all the stores after Easter and Valentines to buy tons of chocolate at 50 or 75% off. I would even freeze it, so I can have it later in the year!!! In fact, now that I am writing this, I remember I have 2 bags of DOVE chocolate Easter eggs from this last Easter, in my freezer! I am going to throw those bags in the trash can as soon as I get home from work today, because I AM IN CONTROL, not my ADDICTION!!!

I get so mad that I dare myself on a daily basis. It is an INNER fight, like the good, the bad, and the ugly, all inside of you and me! Every time I crave chocolate, I have a LEGAL protein chocolate shake, so what if it’s not the same as milk chocolate – SO WHAT – JUST DO IT !

It’s time for a change LASTCHANCE! ARE YOU UP FOR THE FIGHT or are you going to wimp out???

LAST CHANCE - I DARE YOU TO FIGHT FOR YOUR LIFE AND HAPPINESS!!! I DOUBLE-DOG DARE YOU!!!

Do you accept my challenge??? Anybody else ready for it?

Grab your nuts and do it, weigh and measure yourself, post your information so we can help you along the way, set your goals, and keep a journal of what your eating, how you're feeling (physically and mentally), that has helped me alot. I track my weight, measurements, and BMI on a spreadsheet. I just got a spiral notebook and everyday I 'post' what I eat and how I feel. When you put more into it, you get more out of it!!

Dare to face your reality - your weight, your measurements, your BMI, and face them to CHANGE THEM.

I know I sound like a crazy person, and most of you are probably pissed right now and will post to tell me how pissed off you are. But you know what? This is reality. I cannot tell you how much it helped me when I got mad and screamed and did what I just DARED LastChance to do. Now, I do NOT crave the chocolate or potato chips anymore. Yeah, the first week is h*ll, but once it was over, the cravings were GONE!!! Yeah, I have a chocolate protein shake every once in a while, but it’s because I WANT it not NEED it.

Please don't be mad at me, be mad at the ENEMY in us that wants us to fail and TRIES to sabotage us. I DARE YOU!!

Everything said here was said in love, because being fat is horrible, and it’s time to take control!! I’m not mad at LASTCHANCE, I’m mad at the ADDICT living in her body that needs to DIE so LASTCHANCE can live and be happy !!!!

HEY, LET'S START A GET MAD CHALLENGE - I DARE YOU!!!

Loves and Kisses to all of you !!!
Mama Mo

[HoosierDaddy]

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Since I'm relatively new to the forum, I'm somewhat hesitant to speak up. . .but

I know induction (extended or 14 day) seems insurmountable, but I cannot emphasize how important it is and how much better you feel after the cleansing process has been completed. The cravings do go away and it gets easier and easier to turn things down, even chocolate.

Could one make it through induction with Carbsmart carb free chocolate ice cream? I've read great reviews about the Carbsmart ice cream . . . .tastes just like real ice cream, and it's carb free. That could probably satiate her desire for chocolate. Stay on the diet for fourteen days, then treat yourself to a few scoops of the Carbsmart Chocolate Carb Free Ice Cream, then put it away and go on for another fourteen days, reward yourself, and continue the cycle.

Could that work in her case?

[Alaskansonya]

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The reason why corn and carrots are taken out of your diet is because they have a higher sugar count or too much starch...really the reason why they are taken out is because of the affect they have on your insulin...Dr Atkins looked at the numbers and found that these two products affect your body in a negative way while doing his diet. He said to follow all of his induction rules, not just a few of them. Sure you are allowed 20 carbs but those 20 carbs should be within his parameters, not just whatever is 'low carb'. Another words, if you decided one piece of chocolate was 20 carbs and ate it, and then had to eat nothing else or nothing with carbs...the diet would not work. It has to do with how your body reacts to sugar and stabilizing it by keeping those adverse reactions down or stopping them altogether. You could possibly buy some lettuce that has no carrots in it? I know I am not explaining this very well and there are many more 'Atkins-educated' people who have explained it better...I just hope that you stick to it and I wish you good luck...I totally understand as I have my own battles.

This group rocks and everyone here is posting because they do care enough to take the time out and respond to you. They do care that this may be your last chance. They do want to see you succeed and they do not want you to die. So please understand where everyone is coming from...They want to help you live and succeed in this woe!

[Nancy Mo]

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Sounds like a good idea, except you wouldn't be doing Atkins induction or Atkins at all. That ice cream contains High Fructose Corn Syrup - a NO-NO on Atkins. There are plenty of LEGAL chocolate recipes in the Dessert section that are awesome.

[Nancy Mo]

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Hey, you've got to hear this:

The other day while looking through the kids diaper bag, I found one of those darn candy bags they got at a party last weekend. It had a snack sized SNICKERS in it. I opened it without thinking, as I held it in my hand (that was ready to put it ALL in my mouth) I remembered my new WOL; I contemplated for a few minutes... literally starring at it. Then, something remarkable happened... my daughter opens the door and says "Mommy, is that my chocolate?" It was like I snapped out of a trance or something, I immediately said "YES, Mommy opened it for you and brother" and I let them eat half each.

Boy was I relieved!!!

[SunnySmile501]

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In fact, now that I am writing this, I remember I have 2 bags of DOVE chocolate Easter eggs from this last Easter, in my freezer! I am going to throw those bags in the trash can as soon as I get home from work today, because I AM IN CONTROL, not my ADDICTION!!!

HEY, LET'S START A GET MAD CHALLENGE - I DARE YOU!!!

Loves and Kisses to all of you !!!
Mama Mo

Just in case the carb monsters are hanging out near your trash can, it helps to spray 409 cleaner in the bag before throwing in the trash. That way you can't go back and get it out later. Can you tell I have experience with retrieving carb crap from the trash?


I love that challenge! Many times we use food to "stuff down" emotions like anger, because we were taught that anger and screaming are not nice. Throwing a hissy fit and screaming will get rid all that angst we stuffed down inside ourselves with food, before we blow up and explode.


Yikes! I am a very visual person and I am now visualizing all that food that I stuffed down my throat to quell my emotions, flying out in all directions! It will probably cover several square miles! Not a pretty sight!

[SunnySmile501]

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Hey, you've got to hear this:

The other day while looking through the kids diaper bag, I found one of those darn candy bags they got at a party last weekend. It had a snack sized SNICKERS in it. I opened it without thinking, as I held it in my hand (that was ready to put it ALL in my mouth) I remembered my new WOL; I contemplated for a few minutes... literally starring at it. Then, something remarkable happened... my daughter opens the door and says "Mommy, is that my chocolate?" It was like I snapped out of a trance or something, I immediately said "YES, Mommy opened it for you and brother" and I let them eat half each.

Boy was I relieved!!!

Thank God for little children! Someone up there was looking out for you!

[Alaskansonya]

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Hey, you've got to hear this:

The other day while looking through the kids diaper bag, I found one of those darn candy bags they got at a party last weekend. It had a snack sized SNICKERS in it. I opened it without thinking, as I held it in my hand (that was ready to put it ALL in my mouth) I remembered my new WOL; I contemplated for a few minutes... literally starring at it. Then, something remarkable happened... my daughter opens the door and says "Mommy, is that my chocolate?" It was like I snapped out of a trance or something, I immediately said "YES, Mommy opened it for you and brother" and I let them eat half each.

Boy was I relieved!!!

Oh my gosh! Talk about timing!!! Saved by the bell!!! giggle~My son seen me with a box of donuts in my hands the other day (thanks to hubby who thought he was 'treating' me) and said "but mom, I thought you couldn't have sugar anymore!" Whew!!! Gotta love him!!! I, of course, said that daddy treated the kids and I was getting him one! rofl Someday, I gotta thank him for that! hehe Also need to have a serious talk with hubby too! (hubby=)

[tuttifrutti]

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Take if from a 1 1/2 -2 packs of cigarettes a day gal.....chocolate is an addicting food...but we can all overcome addictions just like from cigarettes, alcohol, meth, and heroin! It is hard and some people feel like they are going to die [literally] when they are trying to come off of these things, BUT it is possible, NOT impossible, and the day will come when you are determined beyond belief that you will finally say NO and walk away from it. I wish you all the best!!!

[imagood1]

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Walden Farm's products will be your new best friend. I get mine at Kroger. They actually have a fat free, carb free, sugar free chocolate dipping sauce. When the cravings got to the point where I was about to lose it, I'd go to the icebox and get a spoon full of it. The craving was satisfied and I continued to lose weight.

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This behavior continues to feed a bad behavior -- you and this lady need to break the addiction all together - not continue to give in to it. The Walden Farms items I've tried taste terrible, I don't waste my money on them!

[niko772]

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Have you ever TASTED that stuff? ROFL!!! You get over the chocolate addiction quickly.

[Helena-in-England]

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I'd like to thank everyone for taking the time and trouble to write me messages. They are quite a mixed bag and some are more useful than others!

I am especially moved to see people on here who are even heavier than I am. In fact tears came to my eyes for some stupid reason (I am always weeping!) to see these brave people facing the addictions, conquering the addictions.

If you used carbs to push down and smother feelings etc and now you don't what has happened to those feelings now? Do they have an outlet?

I am fascinated by the supplements suggested! I already have chromium in the house plus a huge drum of Vit C and another of an A-Z multivitamin. I have not been taking them for months because I lost interest in taking care of myself.

I think when doctors say you are going to drop dead any day now, you think well in that case what is the point of multivitamins or dieting or giving up chocolate or anything. Doctors should be banned from saying that to anyone! I mean, if someone told me my house was going to be demolished, I would hardly waste time redecorating it, would I?

I also saw a counsellor last night and had a 2-hour talk. We made a plan!

My plan for today and the next few days is to eat more. In fact, to try to eat every 2 to 3 hours. A chicken thigh, a few tablespoons of tuna, a boiled egg, a piece of cheese etc, sometimes with a bit of veg or mayo othertimes without. A cup of milk if I cannot face any more food. Also to drink lots of water/fruit tea.

The rationale behind this is maybe my chocolate (or sugar) cravings come because of a dip in my blood glucose. If I can keep my bg more stable instead of rising and dipping so extremely.

During this time I am also going to use up everything in the house that is not induction-friendly (I have some frozen, breaded chicken steaks, 2 pints milk, an open can of sweetcorn, for example).

Hopefully, by the time all the non-legal foods are used up, the constant snacking will have cured me of the sugar cravings.

At that point I can begin a clean induction.

I hope this works.

I am also writing a letter to my docs' surgery to complain that I am not getting any standard of care, something they are forever boasting about. I am also going to fight against the government for taking away my welfare benefits. This actually happened 6 months ago but I have been so depressed since then that I never bothered to fight it.

Maybe expressing my anger at the right people is a start in not pushing things down my throat with chocolate? I dunno.

[Helena-in-England]

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Sunny thank you for this I am going to print it out and pin it up on the wall.

1. Chocolate cravings are tied to a magnesium deficiency. You need to take a good magnesium supplement at a high dose. Most over the counter supplements are magnesium oxide, which is very hard for the body to absorb. Buy magnesium citrate and take it several times a day.

etc

[Helena-in-England]

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Oh, also just wanted to reply to Sunny's point:

I said I cannot see myself "going out for a walk" because to me that means wandering the streets aimlessly, in pain from my knee, hobbling with my stick in the wrong hand because the hand I should use is currently out of action.

You asked:

"But you can see yourself hobbling down the street with your stick to buy more chocolate, to make your weight to go up even more?"

The difference between these two is that going out to buy chocolate is a short walk of 20 metres and has an aim and a purpose - to get to that shop, get the chocolate and get back home. It takes about 2 minutes. The craving for my drug-addiction drives me to go to the shop, and is so fierce that even though it hurts me to walk I will do it. Just as when I have to post a letter I will walk to the postbox. When I have to go to the bank then I will walk. "Going for a walk" just feels pointless to me - pointless to go through all that pain and discomfort for nothing tanglible at the end of it.

Yes I am aware all the time that the chocolate I buy makes the pain and the weight and everything worse. My smoker friend coughs and wheezes so badly her face goes red and sometimes I think she is unable to breathe and is going to pass out. The instant the coughing fit is over and she gets her breath back, she lights a cigarette to make her feel better. In some way, the chocolate comforts me for the pain and discomfort of the short walk to the shop.

Yes of course I can see that this is all self-destructive madness. I've known that for 20+ years. I could counsel fat people and tell them how utterly illogical and stupid their behaviour is. Hence my despair. I know it's stupid and here I am still doing it. Therefore, I must be stupid. Right, so I am stupid, irrational, illogical, suicidal. Sometimes even as I eat the chocolate the tears run down my face and I murmur to myself, "why the f--- am I eating this sh--?" Amd I weep afterwards with guilt and despair and feel so bad and stupid and hate myself for continuing it and in the end I get so desperate I phone the Samaritans and when I am at rock bottom I come here and read the threads of all the people who were my size once -- and bigger! -- and have conquered it all and the weight is falling off and I weep floods of tears and wish that was me!

I see that you have assumed that I do no exercise. In fact I do an hour's swimming every other day. Mon/We/Fri/Sun one week then Tues/Thurs/Sat the next week. I do a lot of work there, I am not one of those ladies that I see there who swim very gently up and down and never get their hair wet. I go underwater, I do proper lengths of crawl and backstroke, I do stretches, bends, kicks, jaks, ski-movements. I get there and back by taxi. My first ambition is to be able to walk back. My second ambition is to be able to walk there (it's all uphill).

Currently I have ripped tendons in my right arm which is bandaged 24/7 but I still do the swimming, leaving the bandage on and taking 400mg ibuprofen to get me through the pain.