Fat and mondo calories- cant be a good thing

[2big4mysize]

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wannabe you just posted a big loss just a few weeks ago when you moved to OWL remember scale weight doesn't account for lean tissue additions while fat mass is being shed. I know I shot right past my goal weight in body fat % 6 months before I realized it cause i was focusing on scale weight and darn those last 8 pounds aren't coming off.

[wannabethintoo]

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wannabe you just posted a big loss just a few weeks ago when you moved to OWL remember scale weight doesn't account for lean tissue additions while fat mass is being shed. I know I shot right past my goal weight in body fat % 6 months before I realized it cause i was focusing on scale weight and darn those last 8 pounds aren't coming off.

Yeah, 5 lbs more than a month ago. Nothing more since.

[2big4mysize]

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Cleo's comments are part of this discussion.

i didn't say comments

I said her eating as many folk are now replying to that instead of staying on Savahan's issue andworking to assist her with her problem

Any help Cleo has about that is great but it has become Cleo defending her WOE thing now and we have two topics in one was all Wannabe.

[Richt]

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Ladies and Gents - I am going to move this thread to STAC (second time around), as calorie counting isnt that relevant to any body starting out on induction and I dont want newbies getting confused. After all, something as new as starting a diet is daunting enough in itself.

Regards

Rich

[MotherOfGizmo]

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Maybe you're not eating enough calories Wanna, are you counting?

[wannabethintoo]

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Maybe you're not eating enough calories Wanna, are you counting?

Oh trust me...I'm eating enough.

[penniedo]

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Savannah,

I started the WOE 8 weeks ago. I lost 7lbs my first two weeks and then nothing. I, like you, only have a small amount to loose so for these past two weeks I started "observing" what I was eating. For instance when I made my tuna or chicken salad I cut my mayo from 2 tbls to 1 and instead of throwing 2 hardboiled eggs in my salad I cut it down to one. So I do not consider myself "watching my calories" I consider myself being "aware" of what I am eating. This morning I stepped on the scale and lost 3lbs...

Good luck!!

[2big4mysize]

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wow Savanah 2days andsyou are already in premaintnenamce just kidding.

As penniedo just posted it is very easy to get caught up in the unlimited amounts concept from theose food lists and over eat your Atkins. That is why Dr Atkins talked about not gorging although just that small amount she was overeating easn't gorging but all it takes is eating one bite or one carb more then your body needs and you will not lose. This is why getting in tough with the small amount of food it takes to nurish your body each day based onyour activities that day is so important and why folk who decide i will eat X cals today have so much trouble losing and maintaning cause they don't know how or when to stop eating.

Since you are now on day 2 how are you doing?
got induction flu? have you thawed out from that freezing run? cold weather will burn more fuel keeping warm too cause when you eat ketogenically less of the food potential fuel is lose as heat energy in the body.

[Savannah]

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I have not sort out help for my eating disorder, cause i guess you just leran to live withthem. I am an encyclopaedia of eating disorders , you name it i have probably had it, as a result my metabolism is up the shoot and i have no "Full" indicator. I am weary of not counting calories for that purpose.


I dont want to wrongly influence newbies as i consider myself to be one too, i just think that even newbies with less to lose should be made aware that they probably wont lose weight if they consume 2000 calories a day , even if it is carb free. I was in ketosis in SEptember ( i know casue my boyfriend moaned about my breath continously) and i gained weight.

Just think as Brooke said some of us cant work on the eat as much as you like principal ( until you are fullthat is )

Sorry Richt

[Richt]

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Sorry Richt

No problem, you weren't to know.

[kellygirl2]

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Wow, how in the world can we compare a person of 300 lbs and one of 200lbs or one needing to loose 150lbs and another 50lbs.

Yes, I am a "small" amount loser (yeah right!!!), and I don't need to think about every bite. But why condemn others for their way to learn and live on the Atkins woe, even to count calories? Let's not be judgemental and let them find their own way.

[Savannah]

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Run was great, good thing about those temperaures im soo numb i cant feel the pain.


Its my 4th day actually, felt a little weak yesterday and tired today. No headached but really really really bad keto breath. The ketostix last night were glowing purple. But i have learnt not to trust these as signs of real weight loss , when i feel my clothes getting looser is when i will start flickflacking.

Im slowly getting to understand my stomach and what it wants, slowly. Today i did 1200 actually morethan i would have liked but any less and id be hungry now.

[2big4mysize]

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see that eating to be full isn't what Dr Atkins said and hoiw folk over eat thier Atkins.

full feeling in thebelly is an effect of the stretch receptors in thebelly andsignal the brain to start churning.

What you are looking for and need to work on is satisfying that hunger that told you it was time to eat to begin with. Work on that with the eating part of the meal and see if you can learn it.

Eating ketogenically we get a large fuel intake amount for the day cause it takes more energy to convert the Atkins style eating to fuel then the high carb plans do about 25% more which is the ketogenic advantage Dr Atkins keeps referring to and why those folk who select a BMR from a published site are not eatting the amount their bodies need cause those are all based on high carb eating processes.

[Tired of Chub]

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after getting through all that extra... posting. sheesh.

Savannah, I dont know what eating disorders you have been plagued with. I personally was bulemic as a teenager and had that missing full factor you describe. I have found my fullness button and my hunger button afterbeing on Atkins for a month. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Once you get into Ketosis and start breaking those old eating habits, you should realize the hunger and satisfied triggers. Our demons (bulemia, anorexia, and then the constant eating) overrode those natural signals from our brains and bodies saying we were full. get throughyour induction, it will be okay. I KNOW i overate on induction, I was fighting with those demons still. Once you kill the demons, its okay.

[Brook]

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after getting through all that extra... posting. sheesh.

Savannah, I dont know what eating disorders you have been plagued with. I personally was bulemic as a teenager and had that missing full factor you describe. I have found my fullness button and my hunger button afterbeing on Atkins for a month. There is light at the end of the tunnel. Once you get into Ketosis and start breaking those old eating habits, you should realize the hunger and satisfied triggers. Our demons (bulemia, anorexia, and then the constant eating) overrode those natural signals from our brains and bodies saying we were full. get throughyour induction, it will be okay. I KNOW i overate on induction, I was fighting with those demons still. Once you kill the demons, its okay.

I'm so glad you've found that to be the case, ToC. I found that to be the case for about the first 3 years on Atkins, and then my ED issues bit me in the butt.

While some would call those of us that struggle with those issues "yoyo dieters" because of relatively small weight fluctuations, others would recognize it for what it is - an ED kept under control - and sometimes in the only way we know how.

Atkins is a fabulous corrective way to eat - but it's not a cure for the mental aspects of food addiction- at least not for a lot of us. A tool? Yes.

I can not rely, even after 4 years on Atkins, on my hunger as the sole limiter of my food consumption. Some say eating until hunger is satisfied is a "learning process". Part of what *I* learned during my learning process was that I can not rely on my hunger as a sole means with which to limit my intake.

As I said, it's really an issue of semantics. Call it whatever you're comfortable calling it. You say "portion control", I say "calorie control" - it's the SAME THING. If you limit your portions, you limit your calories. 6 of one, half a dozen of the other, so I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.

For those that choose to stick to extended low-calorie consumption - well, there are those that would stick with induction until goal. Of course I don't believe it's an ideal way to go, but I'm not about to need to be right to the point of being judgemental of others.

Nothing in life is one-size-fits-all. Nothing.


~Brook