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    Hello STACers ~

    I've been thinking today about how much genetics plays a part in our weight struggles. How many STACers out there have parents/grandparents/great-grandparents with weight issues? Has anyone noticed a trend? I think a large part of the issues we have today in America with overweight stem from the crappy options that we have food wise. Everything is fast food, huge portions & soda soda soda. And i am so guilty of falling victim to it all. I don't care for cooking very much ~ so the quicker the better for me. Which ended up in a lot of poor choices. I guess that must have started in college ~ when the weight slowly started to come on. Because before that, fast food wasn't a part of my life.

    So besides the fast food ~ sugars, carbs and the like, how much of our family history are we doomed to repeat ~ or rather, how much of our genetics is playing a part in making things even more difficult for us. As i get older, i see so much of myself in my maternal grandmother. She too was thin in her early twenties, and then "something" happened in her life, i don't know what, and she gained & gained & gained throughout her life... eventually ending up with diabetes, and dying of congestive heart failure in 2000. I wish she were here for me to ask her questions! (And i miss her terribly!)

    Here is my theory: My grandparents were born in the early 1900s. I think in 1913 or something like that. They grew up in the Great Depression, where obviously food (and everything) was seriously lacking. I remember my grandfather telling me that for dinner they would sometimes have one cracker and some small amount of milk. Can you imagine? As the years passed they had my mom in the 40s and things got better with the economy. My mom says that she was made to eat everything on her plate - because her parents knew what it was like to be without.

    I remember Thanksgiving and Christmas dinners with my grandparents - my grandma was so concerned that everyone had enough to eat and was satisfied; so concerned that she barely could enjoy her own food, i am sure! And there were always tons of food around. No wonder my mom had weight issues all of her life. She tried to change things with me as a child, maybe a little too harshly, as i could have virtually no sugar or crappy foods at all.

    So for me, when i would go over to a friends house, i would "horde" all the crap food i could get. Like i didn't know when my next "feeding" would be. So i would fill up on sugary things to hold me over until the next time i was somewhere that bad food was too. Why would i do this as a little person? I remember feeling deprived as a child ~ and i was thin! Once college happened, forget it ~ i was in my free-for-all feasting frenzy. How is that for alliteration?

    The question in am really interested in hearing about from all of you is this: do you see any patterns concerning food issues, genetics, thoughts about food, etc, in your families? Especially for the women out there ~ if you look at your mom and grandma - even great grandma's - do you see any similarities?

    I am not trying to place any blame on our families at all ~ just interested in seeing if there could be a connection; a trickling down of attitudes and feelings towards food. It is interesting...

    ~ Jenna

    Female, 35 ~ 5'6"
    Start Date: 6.21.2005
    New Start Date: 4.5.2010
    Overcoming sugar addiction one day at a time.

    "The body cannot be cured without regard for the soul." Socrates

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    I have often thought the same thing! That our current weight problem has alot to do with how people reacted after the great depression, as well as all our current garbage food. Its become the theme of today...eat eat and eat until you are sick. Whatever urge you have, give into it! No restraint is taught, no appreciation anymore. If you can't afford it, charge it. It all goes hand in hand. Food Network is one of the most watched channels in Cable/Satellite world. Why? Because people love to eat! And I think it stems from two or three generations ago, when those who suffered the want of the depression decided to give their children, the baby boomers, everything they did without! Whalah! The era off all you can eat/ enjoy began. And they passed it on even greater to us, who in turn are passing it on to our children. Couple with a luxurious lifestyle bereft of the manual labor our parents/ grandparents/ great grandparent had to do = obesity! You can see it so clearly in my family: My great grandparents were skinny until their old age (after the great depression), my grandparents were all moderately over weight, my parents were obese, and my brother and I are morbidly obese..... clearly the modern pattern. Of course this isn't everyone, but if you watch the news, more and more they talk about obesity being an epidemic. Go figure! What's really frightening to me is the number of gigantic children! Children who are so fat, they have no neck, they can hardly move their arms, their legs are like little tree trunks....very scary! How will they exist in a world that is so focused on the perfect body, yet give yourself whatever you want?
    ~Marion INDUCTION restart January 10, 2010

    34, F, PCOS

    SW 440/CW 438/ GW 175





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    • #3
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      Yes! My mother was rail thin as a child and once she became a mom and over time weight came on. My grandmother is normal - not thin, not fat. All of my siblings and I deal with weight issues. My husband and I decided 2 years ago no more boxed foods, no more sodas, lots less junk! I, too, wanted my kids to be taught to eat sugary foods in moderation and not horde at friends' houses. We cook from scratch and fast food is only on weekends while we are out shopping/doing errands. Monday through Friday it's homemade! They don't complain, they look forward to a TREAT of fastfood - instead of daily meals! They really don't drink soda. We all naturally drink a lot of water. We eat veggies and fruits. Why am I still fat?? CARBS! Even my husband has finally realized that too much sugar/carbs is not a good thing - in breads, veggies, etc. As a family we are doing really well. I just have to eat less carbs than the rest of them LOL


      Rachel
      SW Louisiana
      I can do it!







      October 30,2006

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      • #4
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        Thank you both for sharing! I think we might be onto something here... if anyone else has seen similar patterns in their families ~ please chime in!

        So perhaps this trend isn't so much exclusively genetics... but more the inherited attitudes about food. We are like little knowledge sponges as children; we learn from watching our parents and take on some of their attitidues about things in life. What do you remember learning about food when you were little?

        For example, when i was little, my mom struggled with her weight a bit (and she was never larger than a 12!), as my father was thin and "fat phobic." I remember, when i was five or so, going with my mom for ice cream. There is no way my dad would have approved of this ~ and my mom asked me to keep it quiet. What did i know ~ i was five! As soon as dad came home from work, the cat was out of the bag! I guess i must have been excited about the ice cream trip...

        The impression left on me: ice cream is NOT OKAY. Ever. I learned about hiding food and keep food a secret. And although i didn't have a problem with my weight until college, this was just one small event among many in my life and left an impression on me. Learning about food from my family...

        The Great Depression theory is interesting... isn't it!? Since my grandparents have passed away, i have been doing our family genealogy. I am a nerd and even have the little family tree maker program on my computer! It is so much fun, and so interesting to see how far back you can trace your roots. Now i think i am going to try to take note of HOW people pass away and look at pictures that i have closely to see what the body types are of my ancestors. Interesting stuff...

        ~ Jenna

        Female, 35 ~ 5'6"
        Start Date: 6.21.2005
        New Start Date: 4.5.2010
        Overcoming sugar addiction one day at a time.

        "The body cannot be cured without regard for the soul." Socrates

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          I agree with attitudes about food! It leaves a lasting impression. And those comments.. we carry them for life whether we want to or not!


          My mother showed up today - it's my bday - and brought brownies. She has no clue I'm back on Atkins.. and I know she brought them for the kids.... It was a nice gesture.. but I ain't eating none! I've been looking for a nice low-carb treat instead. I think I found it!


          Rachel
          SW Louisiana
          I can do it!







          October 30,2006

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            Most times even peoples pets develop weight issues if the people have weight issues.


            5'4"
            45 yrs (F) a.k.a. "Butterbean"
            Start date 5/18/2003
            197/163.5/130

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              Happy Birthday, Rachel! Have an awesome day. Stay strong ~ i know you can do it!

              Female, 35 ~ 5'6"
              Start Date: 6.21.2005
              New Start Date: 4.5.2010
              Overcoming sugar addiction one day at a time.

              "The body cannot be cured without regard for the soul." Socrates

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                Thanks! I have the power! I really do feel strong this time around. It's got to work. I"m at a point of do or die! I'm only to blame for putting something in my mouth - I am an adult. My hips didn't get this big from stirring the pot - I had to put that spoon to my lips a few times LOL


                Rachel
                SW Louisiana
                I can do it!







                October 30,2006

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                • #9
                  Re: Inherited attitudes & genetics...

                  I could write a book about this subject...but, I'll spare you guys all of the details and just give you the "meat" of my story.... I was thin until my mom, my sister, and I moved in with my grandmother when I was 10. We stayed with her for quite a while when my mom decided to leave her third husband at the age of 30... He was an abusive man much like my grandmother's second husband had been...Now, my grandma weighs approximately 350-400 lbs. When I was 10 she probably weighed around 250-275. I believe my grandma used/uses food to try to bury her pain, as I have never seen her sad, depressed, angry, or bitter. Knowing her life's circumstances, I think she has never let herself grieve over the losses in her life. Instead, (not unlike myself) she trys to keep the pain down. I can remember my grandma always begging me to have seconds with her. At the time I can remember feeling so starved for attention because my mom worked two jobs to support the family while (before we moved in with grandma) my ex-stepfather was out of work on disability. And during those times he had made it very clear that my older sister was his favorite. And with my mom always at work, I guess I was feeling a bit neglected and unloved. Or at least not special to anyone. So, when my grandma would ask me to join her for seconds I would because I wanted to please her so that I would gain her favor. As the second helpings multiplied so did my weight. Before long I was a chubby preteen. Now, I really wasn't that big but to some of the kids in middle school I might as well have been 300 lbs. When daily teasing started in the seventh grade I was so ashamed of myself and the way I looked (in the eyes of my peers, anyway) that I would come home to grandma's and hide in my room desperately trying to quiet my pain with thick cheese sandwiches, chips, cookies, ice cream, and sweet tea. I never told anyone at the time of the cruel treatment I was receiving every single school day- I was just too embarrassed. Instead, I turned to food. (And, 9.9 out of 10 times those comfort foods were carbs.) Carbs were my friends and they always dulled my pain (as long as I was eating them, anyway). Afterwards, of course, I felt worse than before I started eating. Then, after stuffing myself privately, I would be called to dinner where I ate a full meal with seconds! I can also recall how I would get out of bed in the middle of the night searching for the goodies my mother had hid from me in an attept to help me lose weight. Anytime I could I would sneak off to be alone with my loyal friends- carbs/suger... Thus began a lifetime pattern. When I hurt I turn to food. When I want to feel loved or special I turn to food.

                  But, I feel like I'm in recovery. Everyday that I don't turn to food I get stronger, and healthier, and more self assured that I can manage my feelings without trying to push them down or quiet them. As a side, my mom, who was stick thin most of her life has now gained quite a bit of weight. After her fourth divorce and then a broken engagement she gave up on finding love with a man and turned to food instead. I haven't asked her lately. but she probably weighes around 200. My sister also has weight issues, but has been able to keep them in check.
                  Starting over...again.
                  Highest weight: 276
                  Current weight: 270
                  Goal weight: 150

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                    Futurefitbabe, that was a very insightful post. You really have a grasp on your triggers and the root causes of your turning to carbs. That is half the battle right there, really! Once you know your triggers it is easier to beat them. So good for you! And thanks for sharing your story... it really helps to hear what other people are going through, their thoughts and feelings. I know that is what helps me here!

                    Today i am really dragging... i had such strange dreams last night. Almost so real, "me but not me" dreams ~ like i am peaking into another life or something. I am so tired. It is going to be very hot here today - 103!!! So maybe a trip to the pool today with my daughter. I hate getting into a swimsuit lately!

                    I am down 4 pounds this week since Monday though... so that is pretty cool.

                    I hope everyone has a wonderful day!

                    ~ Jenna

                    Female, 35 ~ 5'6"
                    Start Date: 6.21.2005
                    New Start Date: 4.5.2010
                    Overcoming sugar addiction one day at a time.

                    "The body cannot be cured without regard for the soul." Socrates

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