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    Experienced low carber, induction again, worried about strenuous exercise...

    I'm starting induction again next monday (but cutting down carbs, cutting out sugar and getting off caffeine this week) and I have some concerns about exercise and whatnot when I get back into low carb.

    I'm not too worried about the induction flu and whatnot, I've experienced that before, what concerns me is that I practice MMA(mixed martial arts) 2 - 3 times a week and it's an intense 3 hour workout every session. All of the exercise is very 'bursty' in terms of energy expendature. You'll be sparring for 4 minutes and sit for the next 15. I'm concerned about energy levels during induction, I know they're going to be really low, but I guess I have a bigger concern about energy availability for strenuous exercise in the first few months of Low Carbing.

    I need to go find my copy of DANDR, I remember Dr. Atkins talking about extra carbs for people who exercise strenuously, but I was planning on doing an extended induction, and very slow migration to additional food. I don't know how I'll respond if I have extra carbs in my diet if I need them for the exercise. Last time I did this I found that I triggered pretty easily the first almost 6 months.

    Does anyone have experience low carbing while doing really strenuous bursts of exercise over several hours?
    Ron, 38 y/o Male 5'11"My WOE blog: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...2&page=1&pp=10
    Starting date: 01/19/2008
    Starting Weight: 340
    Current Weight: 288.2
    Goal Weight: 210
    Major Goals and Milestones
    299 (BIG GOAL HERE, April 15, 2008 target) GOAL MET 4/04/2008!
    265 (Previous atkins low!, July 15, 2008 Target)
    249 (Just to be under 250, how good will that be!, September 15, 2008 Target)
    230 (High school wrestling weight, December 1, 2008 Target)
    210 (NAVY WEIGHT! ULTIMATE GOAL!, February 1, 2009 Target)
    Current Challenges:
    CC Fitness Challenge 7/29lbs 1950/4500 minutes
    Spring into Summer Picture Challenge


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  • #2
    Re: Experienced low carber, induction again, worried about strenuous exercise...

    Welcome. After the first week i think you should see an increase in energy. One of the great things about low carbing is the extra energy you have. Once your body goes into fat burning mode you should see that. I have read some really interesting articles on the effects of low carb and strenuous exercise and i think you will be fine. I run the Bolder Boulder every year and two of them were run in induction with no negative side effects. If you find that you exercise enough though i would encourage you not to do the extended induction and instead move into OWL after your two weeks.
    ~Susan~
    HW 216
    5'7"/female
    Start February 17, 2005
    Rerererestart September 24th, 2007 at 197
    Low weight for reference 170.6
    Current weight 153 or thereabouts

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    • #3
      Re: Experienced low carber, induction again, worried about strenuous exercise...

      Hey there Digital, welcome...When you find the DANDR book, would you please share the place you are making reference of, "extra carbs for those who exercise strenuously"....I exercise alot and would really like to see that too, if you should find it...
      74 8/1/06
      SW225/CW142/GW135 83lbs GONE!
      2 YEARS and 9MONTHS!!! I've been here
      Jess Female/51/5'3

      www.jdudley.blog.com blog site

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      • #4
        Re: Experienced low carber, induction again, worried about strenuous exercise...

        Originally posted by Outback Jess
        Hey there Digital, welcome...When you find the DANDR book, would you please share the place you are making reference of, "extra carbs for those who exercise strenuously"....I exercise alot and would really like to see that too, if you should find it...
        Let me go dig the DANDR book up, I'm thought he talked about it in there for long distance runners, especially during induction.

        ...


        Hrm, nope, turns out that's not true. There are a few posts on this board using search where people talk about marathon running and whatnot on atkins, but not during induction.

        Could be a holdover from old training ideals I guess. Funny how they get mixed up in your head.
        Ron, 38 y/o Male 5'11"My WOE blog: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...2&page=1&pp=10
        Starting date: 01/19/2008
        Starting Weight: 340
        Current Weight: 288.2
        Goal Weight: 210
        Major Goals and Milestones
        299 (BIG GOAL HERE, April 15, 2008 target) GOAL MET 4/04/2008!
        265 (Previous atkins low!, July 15, 2008 Target)
        249 (Just to be under 250, how good will that be!, September 15, 2008 Target)
        230 (High school wrestling weight, December 1, 2008 Target)
        210 (NAVY WEIGHT! ULTIMATE GOAL!, February 1, 2009 Target)
        Current Challenges:
        CC Fitness Challenge 7/29lbs 1950/4500 minutes
        Spring into Summer Picture Challenge


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        • #5
          Re: Experienced low carber, induction again, worried about strenuous exercise...

          I thought you might have hit paydirt there and a bunch of us, who have looked for clues for our endurance sport would have been so interested. There are a handful of people doing marathon, half marathon and or triathlon type endurance sport, I am one of them. We have sought the best ways to fuel up for the long haul. Just wanted to know what you know.... Thanks for looking that up!
          74 8/1/06
          SW225/CW142/GW135 83lbs GONE!
          2 YEARS and 9MONTHS!!! I've been here
          Jess Female/51/5'3

          www.jdudley.blog.com blog site

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          • #6
            Re: Experienced low carber, induction again, worried about strenuous exercise...

            I thought maybe you were talking about ht CCL levels for maintainance where he says heavy exercisers can probably consume more carbs....





            290 lbs. on 11/02/07 Goal: 145 lbs. or size 14 whichever comes first!

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            • #7
              Re: Experienced low carber, induction again, worried about strenuous exercise...

              where is that
              74 8/1/06
              SW225/CW142/GW135 83lbs GONE!
              2 YEARS and 9MONTHS!!! I've been here
              Jess Female/51/5'3

              www.jdudley.blog.com blog site

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              • #8
                Re: Experienced low carber, induction again, worried about strenuous exercise...

                I'll find the page later (off to bed) but it's the chart, either in premaintanance or maintanance , that show what a typical low resistant, average resistant, high resistant and avid exerciser can eat for carbs.





                290 lbs. on 11/02/07 Goal: 145 lbs. or size 14 whichever comes first!

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                • #9
                  Re: Experienced low carber, induction again, worried about strenuous exercise...

                  That's not for induction, that's for OWL/pre-maintenance/maintenance.

                  If you're exercising intensely, the idea is to have enough FUEL. If your body is burning fat, then you need to make sure you are eating enough FAT for fuel. There are many on here who have run marathons who do NOT carb-load. That is a myth. You just need to give your body the right kind of fuel and enough of it. Eat an hour or so before your workout. Make sure you don't let yourself get hungry throughout the day. Carbs are "quick" energy anyway, and if you're working out for a LONG amount of time, wouldn't fat/protein be a more logical choice, as they are more slowly metabolized by the body?
                  START 8/16/06 @ 270+~MG1: 220-12/2/06~MG2: 210-1/07~MG3: 199-3/2/07~MG4: 190-4/27/07~MG5: 180-7/04/07~GOAL: 170
                  RESTART 11/2/09 @ 224.6~MG1: 215~MG2: 210~MG3: 205~MG4: 199~MG5: 195~MG6: 190~MG7: 185~GOAL: 180
                  F / 28 / 5'8" FITDAY

                  Missoula Marathon 7/13/08 5:41

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                  • #10
                    Re: Experienced low carber, induction again, worried about strenuous exercise...

                    Julirama, thank you for more eloquently saying what i was trying to get at
                    ~Susan~
                    HW 216
                    5'7"/female
                    Start February 17, 2005
                    Rerererestart September 24th, 2007 at 197
                    Low weight for reference 170.6
                    Current weight 153 or thereabouts

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                    • #11
                      Re: Experienced low carber, induction again, worried about strenuous exercise...

                      Well yes, I did say it was in maintainance. Just figured that's what Digital was remembering





                      290 lbs. on 11/02/07 Goal: 145 lbs. or size 14 whichever comes first!

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