I lost it...

**DLS** · November 21, 2008, 07:30 AM

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Atkins Nazis!!! Funny!

Melimeli,

You will be fine. You don't have to count this as the "second time around". So you had one problem. I know I'm not gonna shoot ya! Everyone has screwed up at one time or another (whether they admit it or not). That doesn't mean you have given up and totally turned your back on Atkins and then had to come back to relose all you had gained back. That's what I thought the second time around is about. (But I'm no **** so I'm not sure about that. LOL)
I know that a few posts earlier this week weren't very friendly toward you and honestly I think that contributed to your lapse. I think when some folks make Atkins sound like a rigid **** boot camp we will have more and more folks lapsing and thinking that it isn't a doable thing. But you know what, you CAN do this. You have proven it already because you were doing so well. So whether you mess up planned or you plan a cheat day like some do, you are still right in there!
Don't let the few that razz you about stuff get to you. There are those, myself included, that won't judge you and will encourage you to do your best, even if your best isn't the exact replica of someone else's idea of the "Perfect Atkineer".

Best wishes to you!

**surreys_princess** · November 21, 2008, 08:42 AM

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I am really sorry to hear that you fell off. The most important thing I think is that you know what you did, why you did it, and dont want to do it again. All you can do is try, noone is perfect, and people make mistakes, that is how we learn.

As for "mean posts" though, and Atkins ****'s, I tried to hit on this in one of your other posts about snacking. Here is the thing, meli. Being a large person (or just plain old fat as some people like to think of it, ie me, but in regards to only me: not speaking for others), you have been discriminated against your whole life. People have snickered, talked behind your back, made faces, etc. If you dont think so (and I am not saying you do, I am just generically speaking here), that is really unrealistic. So, that being said, a few people telling you things you dont want to hear ON THE INTERNET shouldnt have control over you. As I said before, the great thing about this board is the people who tell it like it is, cause even though we dont want to hear it, sometimes we need to, wether we think so or not.

DLS...please, please, please dont put the responsibility of meli (or anyone else) falling off on other people. If someone said some things you dont like to you and you eat, YOU choose to eat. My husband does not support me on Atkins at all, and he will go as far as to order a pizza and sit it in front of me, trying to get me to eat it, and I never ever have. If I do, whos fault is it that I do? Mine, not his. I make the ultimate decisions about what I put in my mouth, my body. At some point we have to start taking responsibility for our actions, or we arent going to get out of this cycle. The boot camp mentality you are speaking of, this is a serious diet, for serious problems. For some of us, it saved our lives, literally, and doing it right and by the letter is very important to some. Doesnt mean they are bad, or wrong, they are just of a different mindset, and if you notice, most who are gung ho and serious about it have lost the most and kept it off longest. Just food for thought.

In the other post meli, I was trying to say that this way of life is about changing how we think, rewiring our brain in respect to food. I think that is why some of us were so adament about this in the snacking post you made.

Lastly, remember 99 pecent of the comments that might *offend* you, are said with care and to help, and I really dont think people here are saying things to personally hurt you or anything. And if they are, so what? It is the internet, you know? You arent seeing these people at work tomorrow, you arent laying down with them at night.

Good luck. You can do it if you want to. "It works if you work it". Keep your chin up. Dont let the turkeys get you down. See where I am going with this?

Sam

**DLS** · November 21, 2008, 09:08 AM

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I was not trying to outright blame someone else. But my point was....... that hurtful comments can lead one to feel abandoned, not supported, and left with a "why bother" feeling.

I think we should help one another, but ALL answers can be given in a compassionate way not harsh, or brutal. And even if you don't feel you are being that way, stop and really think of your post going to the most sensitive person and how would they feel.

I can see that my post will "Upset" quite a few others. So be it. I am trying to be a supportive person here. She will definitely be okay, with or without this board. I can tell from her other posts that she is a strong lady.

Melimeli,

All the best to you. I hope you stick it out girl!

**surreys_princess** · November 21, 2008, 09:21 AM

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And my point simply was personal ownership for choices and decisions, including how we allow others to make us feel.

Maybe a *hurtful* comment to you comes across as a helpful comment to someone else. Neither opinion is wrong, it is just how you CHOOSE to accept it.

It just seemed to me like you were cosinging people who cheat because of how someone makes them feel, or you were insinuating people will cheat because some people have strong opinions in which they express, and that just seems like poppycock if that IS what you were saying....It is your job to support yourself and see yourself through things, not others, although it is nice to have friends and whatnot. But in the end, it is about YOU, and you have to make it what you want it to be, damn the rest of the world.

As for people who arent *supportive*, the thought *kill them with kindness* comes to mind. Why let someones words sabotage yourself?

And that is what I was trying to say.

PS....you *bother* because you are dying, and you dont want to, and that is what should matter, not what someone says or how they act...it really is that simple....

i am not being crappy or confrontational, i am just saying what i got from the posts and how it made ME feel....

**DLS** · November 21, 2008, 09:23 AM

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And it is people like you Princess that make people like me leave this damn board for good.

In my original post to Meli. That was just it. To meli.
None of your ****ing business!!!

Outta here!

**surreys_princess** · November 21, 2008, 09:36 AM

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I dont really see where I said anything wrong there. I was not mean, I was just simply saying to meli and trying to show her that no matter what people say, they are just people, and it is what you yourself does that matters. I think you are highly over reacting, and highly irate over hearing someones truth because it is different than your own. If you are that mad over the fact that someone thought different than you, I dont even know what to say. Fact is, noone can make you cheat, you cheat because you want to, and that is truth. For you to say someones words can make you do something, is ridiculous to me, I am sorry. It wasnt a personal attack to you, it was my opinion and how what you said made ME feel. Sorry, I didnt know that wasnt allowed. I thought it was okay to have an opinion and express it respectfully. You did, and even called people ****'s, and as a Jew, I found it a tad indignified, but that is okay.

Meli, sorry the posts turned out like this. I was just trying to help and let you know that YOU have the control, not others, and to not let others hurt you, and dont let people cosign bad habits for you. Good luck.

**Debie** · November 21, 2008, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by surreys_princess View Post

I dont really see where I said anything wrong there. I was not mean, I was just simply saying to meli and trying to show her that no matter what people say, they are just people, and it is what you yourself does that matters. I think you are highly over reacting, and highly irate over hearing someones truth because it is different than your own. If you are that mad over the fact that someone thought different than you, I dont even know what to say. Fact is, noone can make you cheat, you cheat because you want to, and that is truth. For you to say someones words can make you do something, is ridiculous to me, I am sorry. It wasnt a personal attack to you, it was my opinion and how what you said made ME feel. Sorry, I didnt know that wasnt allowed. I thought it was okay to have an opinion and express it respectfully. You did, and even called people ****'s, and as a Jew, I found it a tad indignified, but that is okay.

Meli, sorry the posts turned out like this. I was just trying to help and let you know that YOU have the control, not others, and to not let others hurt you, and dont let people cosign bad habits for you. Good luck.

You were not mean! I was also very offended when I saw ****'s but I brushed it off.

DLS -Princess spoke her mind just as we all have rights to do. If your response was meant to be a personal message to Meli, maybe you could send her a private message in the future.

Ladies - have a good weekend

**Sarina D** · November 21, 2008, 10:26 AM

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Okay, let’s not get into a continued argument on this thread. I think the point has been made on both sides by many people on the other thread and now on this thread. Don’t get me wrong, I have no issues of people discussing each other’s theories and such and trying to work them out, however, there is obviously a strong difference of opinion in regards to what has been spoken about and I think the points have been driven home. I'm glad people have shared what they have, it gives us all some great ideas to think about and implement.

The GREAT part of this whole thing is, we see Meli has made incredible in roads from going from as size 24 to a 14…that speaks volumes. I think Meli “gets it” and what is important now is that we support her and she supports us in our journey…which I believe the people that have posted on this thread genuinely want to do as well as the other thread…I don’t question that at all.

Meli, I can tell from your post you know what needs to be done and you know the origin of the mistake that you've made. You’ve been doing it girl…just don’t get caught with your pants down again (not having groceries in your house that you can eat) and then resort to eating what you shouldn’t. I know what that can be like….I just make myself run to the grocery store so I won’t have any opportunity what so ever to give in. Plan ahead for running out and purchase extra items. You’re at a really exciting time in your life right now…..you’re back at work, you’re still losing weight…keep it up, I know you can do this! Stick to the plan and it will continue to work for you.

Drink lots of water, surround yourself with lots of food that you’re allowed and carry on….don’t lose sight of your goal…you’re totally worth it and I know you can do this

All the best to everyone, we’re all in this together!

Sarina
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Heaviest weight last year- 400 (2007)
Atkins start weight – 347 (July 19, 2008 )
(100 lbs. lost as of Oct 2, 2008 - Hit 300 lbs. on this day )
Current weight – 269
Goal weight - 150 – 160

**melimeli** · November 21, 2008, 12:28 PM

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OK now this is getting OLD!! Sam I have asked you to PLEASE not reply to my threads.. If you are trying to help me you AREN'T. You take my posts and make them an all about you show and that is not what I want. If you want a thread about you... start a thread. Please do not reply to my threads any longer because your advice is not what I am looking for and it is NOT helpful to me. So if that is not crystal clear I don't know what is... ( I even left the main forum to get away from you )

As for the rest.. Thank you as always for your support... it is very helpful and I NEED IT!!!!!

**surreys_princess** · November 21, 2008, 12:47 PM

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Maybe you have me confused with someone else? I have only been back here like 3 days, I responded to one of your threads, one time, yesterday, and that is the only thread of yours I have ever seen. And you didnt ask me/tell me anything at all. But yeah, no problem. I wont respond to them, but before you say things like that, make sure you are talking about the right situation and person before you embarass them like that. Thanks.

**Lyssie** · November 21, 2008, 01:21 PM

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Ummmmm.... Hrm. Not really sure what I walked into here. I think I'm one of those umm, strict people at times. I was actually pretty sad when they wouldn't let you type **** anymore, since my favourite nickname was "Gym ****". But anyway.

I wanted to say COngrats on jumping back on the wagon, Meli.

I agree with Sarina about keeping things around your lair. I always keep frozen and canned veggies as well as canned tuna, salmon and crab. That way if I don't get a chance to go to the grocery, there is *something* to eat. Even if it's not really something as delicious as it could be. I then force myself to go shopping for fear of starving to death (or cheating) the next day.

**melimeli** · November 21, 2008, 03:09 PM

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Ok your right.. it wasn't you it was megs you just sound so much like her I mistook you... I apologize

**surreys_princess** · November 21, 2008, 03:10 PM

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No worries. I just kinda thought you were having a rough day. Good luck, and dont worry, the hurdles and all, *this too shall pass*!! Smiles all around!!!

**Sherri** · November 21, 2008, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by melimeli View Post

so after going through 16 days of induction.. I fell off... I ate 3 bowls of cerel yeateday and today I had chinese for dinner.. It is mostly bad planning. I went back to work this week and didn´t buy enough food last weekend. I ran out of legal things to eat!! ok no excuse I could have went to the store but I am really beat! I haven´t even had the energy to get on the computer to come here... So anyway. I start again tomorrow and I hope 2 off meals didn´t harm me tooooo much.... I hope to get back to ketosis soon... ok.. I will say I come on the second time around club because you are less critical than the atkins nazis on the main board

I love us imperfect gals!!!

Hello Melimeli,

Great to hear you're back on track. That-a-girl! Always pushing forward. That's what it takes. I can't even count how many oopses I've had over the last 4 1/2 years on Atkins. But I can say that each time I picked myself up, brushed myself off and went back on plan 100%.
No, 2 off meals didn't do much damage. It will only take 3-4 days to get back into ketosis. You'll be melting in no time.
And yes, i'm one of those imperfect girls that has lost over 100 lbs., reversed my type-2 diabetes, stablized my blood pressure and have accomplished a healthy blood chemistry. Not to mention being able to kick many meds to the curb. Not bad for being imperfect.

Just flush your system with lots of water, you'll be good to go......literally. Hehe

Wishing you the best of success and lite.
Sincerely, Sherri

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