Day two and I've already encountered a "non-believer."

**MissMel** · March 24, 2007, 06:25 PM

Re: Day two and I've already encountered a "non-believer."

Oh man...I know what you mean. I have an Aunt that thinks she is the authority on what is healthy and what isn't in the "Diet" world. When I lost 50 on Atkins she really tried to put the scare in me to stop doing Atkins...I have a hard time listening to her though because she is VERY overweight and is a Diet Yo Yo'er...she tries all the NEW ones that comes out and gives up just as quickly. She did the same thing with Atkins she lost some and then quit and then regained it back and then some...but it was ALL the diet's fault not her own.

Just hold our own and take heart that your knowledge gives you the power. lol

As for how I am doing?

I am doing fantastic...finishing the end of my 1st week and had a loss of 7.4 lbs in 7 days. Praying next week is just as successful!

Good luck with your first week!

**JMarsa202** · March 24, 2007, 06:29 PM

Re: Day two and I've already encountered a "non-believer."

Thanks Mel.

Congrats on your 7.4 lb loss!

**dream** · March 24, 2007, 07:14 PM

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I just completed induction and lost 15 pounds and I feel better than I have in a long time.

Don't let anyone talk you out of it. This is a healthy way of eating and you won't regret it!

**Aussieinaz** · March 24, 2007, 07:48 PM

Re: Day two and I've already encountered a "non-believer."

Oh that would be annoying. I just go "what ever" to anyone that says Oh thats bad for you, Im like so is being FAT.. I just do what I want and let the non believers worry about there own issues.

Im on day 3 and feel great, woke up with a bounce. I got on the scales and saw I put a pound on which freaked me out. But I did drink 3 cans of diet coke last night so Im sure it is all water Im carring. Im not going to weigh myself now until next Thursday which will be a week for me. Its nice to meet some one close in days to me, I cant wait to hear how your doing at the end of induction.

**Lisa_Rose** · March 26, 2007, 08:14 AM

Re: Day two and I've already encountered a "non-believer."

Originally posted by JMarsa202

Me having read the books, I countered with, "No, ketosis is okay. It's ketoacidosis that's not good for you. Two different things."

Her response? They're the same thing.

Hm...it sounds like she didn't know what else to say LOL.

You countered her with an answer she was probably not aware of.

Anyhow, I've never heard of anyone dying or getting sick from Atkins. Look at everyone on this board!

You'll get a lot of non-believers, they are simply misinformed. Just stick to your guns! If she continues to tell you Atkins is dangerous, maybe tell her to see how you're doing in 6 months...and you can even get a doc's checkup to prove you're quite healthy (if you're due for one).

**Tiggs14** · March 26, 2007, 09:24 AM

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I have actually avoided telling people I'm doing Atkins for the most part because of the negative way of thinking that surronds this WOL by many people. I only just started and don't want to debate the WOL with anyone right now.

When I've lost a lot of weight and look much better than I'll be more willing to spill the beans and take them on in an arguement.

As for how I'm doing and where I am...I'm on day 8 of inducation and have seen a 14 pound loss so far. Can't tell me this diet doesn't work or is now good

. I'm not feeling all that great honestly. I've still got a bit of the induction flu but it's much better than it was. At the same time though I do have more energy throughout the day.

**dream** · March 26, 2007, 09:38 AM

Re: Day two and I've already encountered a "non-believer."

Originally posted by Aussieinaz

But I did drink 3 cans of diet coke last night so Im sure it is all water Im carring.

I don't mean to be a downer, but that's way too much for induction. The only soda allowed for induction is caffeine free and sweetened with Splenda, and then it should only be used occasionally. It's definitely been proven to stall a lot of people's weight loss.

We're only allowed 3 servings of sweetener a day and 3 cans puts you about triple that amount.

Sorry!

**sshannon81** · March 26, 2007, 09:45 AM

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Dont woory...they are not the same. I am a nurse and there is nothing wrong with being in ketosis. Read this :

Ketosis should not be confused with ketoacidosis, which is severe ketosis causing the pH of the blood to drop below 7.2. Ketoacidosis is a medical condition usually caused by diabetes and accompanied by dehydration, hyperglycemia, ketonuria and increased levels of glucagon. The high glucagon, low insulin serum levels signals the body to produce more glucose via gluconeogenesis, glycogenolysis and ketogenesis. High levels of glucose causes the failure of tubular reabsorption in the kidneys, causing water to leak into the tubules in a process called osmotic diuresis, causing dehydration and further exacerbating the acidosis.

**sshannon81** · March 26, 2007, 09:52 AM

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If your sis is telling you those are the same......hmm I am sorry to say that I would be scared for her to be my nurse.

Here is more info:
The diet prescribes foods high in fat, and heavily restricts carbohydrate intake. As fats become the body's primary source of metabolic energy, ketones accumulate in the brain, which can alleviate epileptic symptoms. The diet is often perceived as more effective in children than adults, particularly when anticonvulsant drug therapy is ineffective (20%-30% of patients) or contraindicated, however, data from the 1920s and 1930s, as well as recently, shows similar results. However, the ketogenic diet is more restrictive for adults.

Foods used in the diet include high-triglyceride dairy products (e.g., butter, cream), mayonnaise and peanut butter. Carbohydrates, found in breads and starches, are eliminated in the diet, and liquid and calorie intake are often restricted as well in order to aid ketone accumulation. Though superficially similar, this is not the same as the Atkins diet. This has been used as well for some patients with epilepsy, as well as a low-glycemic index diet. [1] Possible long-term side effects of the diet include:

kidney stones
abnormal liver function
high cholesterol
weight loss
dehydration
bone thinning

The diet is typically supplemented with calcium, vitamin D, iron, and folic acid.

**JMarsa202** · March 26, 2007, 10:24 AM

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Thank you Shannon! When I got off the phone with her, I found information very similar to what you posted, and it only further cemented my secure feelings about this WOL. Thing is, there is no arguing with her...even if she's wrong. Kinda sad. OH WELL.

I guess the point of this post was twofold: 1. many people are misinformed, and 2. some of the people who are misinformed are/will be in the position to possibly influence/advise people in the future.

What if she has patients that she strongly advises against Atkins, when in reality they could really benefit from it? But, because she's a nurse, people are more likely to trust her. KWIM?

Further proof it works: I'm on Day 4 of Induction and down 5 pounds!!!!!

Thanks, everyone, for your input.

**Aussieinaz** · March 26, 2007, 11:08 AM

Re: Day two and I've already encountered a "non-believer."

Originally posted by dream

I don't mean to be a downer, but that's way too much for induction. The only soda allowed for induction is caffeine free and sweetened with Splenda, and then it should only be used occasionally. It's definitely been proven to stall a lot of people's weight loss.

We're only allowed 3 servings of sweetener a day and 3 cans puts you about triple that amount.

Sorry!

Yep I realized this after I got the book and read it. I had the way of thinking "it has no carbs its ok" Today is my 3rd day of NO diet coke or soda at ALL. This is a HUGE deal for me cause I use to be a freak and drink up to 6 cans a day and some times more. I feel better and am surprised how well I’m doing with no soda.

I’m also sure I will lose more now that im not drinking it and sticking to the induction rules. Last night I told my best friend how I lose 4 lbs the first 4 days and she’s like "be careful that’s not good" I was like look Im not getting in a debate with you about it. I know what Im doing and its fine. I think some of it is jealousy cause she is a big girl now and doesn’t not have the will power to diet. She use to be the skinny girl when we where kids and now I’m thinner then her. Its like we got ourselves this way its up to us to find the will power to do some thing about it, don’t be down on me cause I am doing some thing. So I’m not telling her anymore about it. She will see me in Australia in June and be like OMG...

**Aussieinaz** · March 26, 2007, 11:13 AM

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Juli, that is great your down 5 pounds. Ive been good and didnt weigh myself today Im going to wait until Thursday when its been one week. Today is day 5 for me too, so I wonder if Im down an extra too... Hmmmmmm.... NO im not weighing in, I can hear the scales calling my name to come and do a peek check.. BUT NO MUST STAY STRONG..

Go away scales Im not falling for your power over me to come peek... lol...

**SugarFreeSheila** · March 26, 2007, 12:30 PM

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Off-topic comment:

Aussienaz, you are a knockout - and look at least a decade younger than you are. Whatever you're taking, I want some!

**Aussieinaz** · March 26, 2007, 03:30 PM

Re: Day two and I've already encountered a "non-believer."

Shelia, your to kind.. I joke around when Im asked that its probably me being pickled from all the diet coke I drink.

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