Ok need some advice....Vets definitely need you?

[*SHOWSTOPPER*]

Hi GANG

So, before I start this let me start off by saying by no means am I SAD, more like concerned . Today is Day 5 of induction and I am more motivated than I think I have ever been.

So I jumped on the scale to see how much progress I've made...Well not a single lb. So I need to figure out whats stalling me. So let me cover all the basics so I can get some really good opinions and advice.

I have been following induction properly except for the little extra heavy cream I have...which could be the culprit...not sure...I AM in ketosis...its dark purple. I am drinking at least 8 glasses of water if not more, I do have regular bowel movements (sorry just figured it was worth mentioning), I am taking a multi-vitamin, sugar free fiber choice every day. I worked out hard this week, 3 days of Kickboxing and 1 day of weight lifting (light weights). TOM is no where around....just finished about 1 1/2 weeks ago.

Here are my weight stats - Directly from my Tanita Ironman Scale...It Rocks!
Starting day- 7-28-08: Day 5 - 8/1/08:
215.0 - weight 215.0 - weight
45.9 - body fat 45.5 - body fat
39.4 - water intake 39.7 - water intake
111.8 - muscle mass 112.8 - muscle mass
1693 - BMR 1703 - BMR

Food Menus:
Wednesday, July 30, 2008

Breakfast

Calories Fat Carbohydrates Protein Egg, fresh, 3 large 224 15 2 19 Turkey Bacon - Butterball, 4 serving 100 6 0 8 Coffee, 1 cup 0 0 0 0 Heavy Whipping Cream, 1 serving 50 5 0 0 374 26 2 27 Lunch

Salmon, 1 serving 100 3 0 19 Scallops - Large (4 oz), 2 serving 140 2 2 30 240 5 2 49 Dinner

Surf & Turf (Steak and Shrimp) - Meals Made Easy, 1 serving 280 0 1 56 Broccolli - Birdseye, 1.5 cup 45 0 3 3 325 0 4 59 Snack

Jello, 2 serving 20 0 0 2 Whipped Cream, pressurized, 4 tbsp 31 3 1 0 Caramel Chocolate Peanut Nougat Bar - Atkins, 1 serving 160 9 0 11 Caramel Chocolate Peanut Nougat Bar - Atkins, 1 serving 160 9 0 11 371 21 1 24 1,309 51 9 159 1200 - 1550 27 - 60 135 - 252 60 - 136


Wednesday, July 30, 2008

Breakfast

Calories Fat Carbohydrates Protein Egg, fresh, 3 large 224 15 2 19 Turkey Bacon - Butterball, 4 serving 100 6 0 8 Coffee, 1 cup 0 0 0 0 Heavy Whipping Cream, 1 serving 50 5 0 0 374 26 2 27 Lunch

Salmon, 1 serving 100 3 0 19 Scallops - Large (4 oz), 2 serving 140 2 2 30 240 5 2 49 Dinner

Surf & Turf (Steak and Shrimp) - Meals Made Easy, 1 serving 280 0 1 56 Broccolli - Birdseye, 1.5 cup 45 0 3 3 325 0 4 59 Snack

Jello, 2 serving 20 0 0 2 Whipped Cream, pressurized, 4 tbsp 31 3 1 0 Caramel Chocolate Peanut Nougat Bar - Atkins, 1 serving 160 9 0 11 Caramel Chocolate Peanut Nougat Bar - Atkins, 1 serving 160 9 0 11 371 21 1 24 1,309 51 9 159 1200 - 1550 27 - 60 135 - 252 60 - 136

Those are just two days of menus...I didn't wanna post too much but the menu has been this way pretty much all week.... Now let me just say that I have tried Atkins before and lost weight during induction...largest amount of weight was about 11 lbs....the difference between now and then is that I wasn't nearly working out as hard...if at all during induction...And I understand that muscle weighs more than fat but as you can see from my scale stats the muscle mass has not increased that much.

I also check my inches and no lost there either....Now I'm just puzzled...Even my calorie intake is not as high as my BMR so I am clearly not eating more calories than I am burning. I was told that I am burning about 500 - 650 calories or so kickboxing per class.

So here are my questions:
Why even though I am in ketosis (dark purple) I'm not seeing the scale go down?
So if not the scale, shouldn't I at least see some inches go away? even a half of an inch?
Could I be bloated for some reason and just not know it, although don't feel that way?
What could I be doing incorrectly?

As you can see ladies and gentleman I am serious about Atkins so any advice you can give I will take seriously....

Thanks in Advance and Go Inductioners!

[*SHOWSTOPPER*]

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Ok menus didn't come out like they were copied so here are the addresses

July 29th
Printable Nutrition Report

July 30th
Printable Nutrition Report

[BonnieRose16]

Re: Ok need some advice....Vets definitely need you?

A couple of things for you....

Atkins prodcuts while convenient, can stall and do stall in many people. May be a culprit for you

Check the ingredients in the Turkey Bacon. A lot of Turkey Bacon has extra junk added to make it taste more like Pork Bacon.

Oh and of course the cream like you said. 2-3 Tbsp is supposed to be our limit. You are at 8 for those 2 days.

I'm not a vet so that's all I'll say just what I noticed!

[*SHOWSTOPPER*]

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The bars have never stalled me before...but I can cut back to see what happens...but when I am on the go it works well for me...

I checked the turkey bacon, don't see anything bad but just to be safe here are the ingredients: White turkey, mechanically seperated turkey, dark turkey, water, sugar, salt , contains 2% or less canola oil, sunflower oil, natural flavor, sodium erythorbate, sodium phosphate, sodium nitrite.

Calories per slice 25
Total Fat 1.5
Saturated 0.5
Cholestrol 10 mg
Sodium 135mg
Carbs, Fiber, and Sugar 0
Protien 2 grams

Now the heavy cream could be but I do remember using it on previous induction and I did fine...

[BonnieRose16]

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During induction we aren't supposed to be eating anything with sugar in the ingredients... see if you can find another brand that doesn't add sugar to their turkey bacon. THey don't legally have to register carbs under .5 so that could account for the sugar and while I'm sure 1 carb per day of bacon wouldn't stall you, in combination with the other things I mentioned it may have an effect. Besides a clean induction is super important anyway!

Hope someone else can look at your menus and see if there's something else since you state that none of these things stalled you in the past...

[Clarasassycat]

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A few things I noticed.
1 was already pointed out and that is that the atkins bars are not acceptable for induction. This is my second time on atkins, the first time they didnt effect me at all, this time I had a coupe and the week I did, nothing in the way of loss. So, they are a nono for me!
2nd thing is, looking at your menu, youa re getting to many calories from protein and not enough from fat. Your percentage should be something like 65% fat 30% protein and 5% carbs.
And try regular bacon, I have noticed that turkey bacon has lots of stuff added to it.

[rhiannonwins]

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And try regular bacon, I have noticed that turkey bacon has lots of stuff added to it.

I am on my 1st day of Atkins and did my shopping last night. I was at a really great grocery store that has tons of organic stuff and specialty stuff too, and we could NOT find any bacon that didn't have sugar listed in the nutritional info...or if it didn't, it listed it in the ingredients. The best one we found was an "uncured" kind that only listed "turbinado" sugar or raw sugar as the last ingredient. But literally, there was NOTHING else and they had about 20 kinds of bacon to choose from. Can you recommend a specific brand? I see you're in the U.S. so maybe I can find it.

[*SHOWSTOPPER*]

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Thanks you guys all good points....Keep them coming!

[studyinscarlet]

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A few things:

1. Even though you claim the bars don't stall you, they are not allowed on induction. Just the fact that they have "peanut" in the name should clue you in - nuts aren't allowed until the nut rung. I think they also have soy in them which isn't allowed until the legumes ring. You should be in the habit of always reading the ingredients on your labels.

2. Jello has aspartame which is not recommended on atkins and is a known staller, not to mention terrible for you.

3. You should be getting most of your carbs from veggies. 1.5 cups of broccoli a day is not enough. You're required to eat a minimum of three cups of veggies a day.

4. If your keotsticks are dark purple you might be dehydrated. 8 cups if water a day is only the minimum.

5. Is your coffee decaf? Its recommended that you refrain from caffeine during induction.

6. Be patient. If you're doing what you're supposed to then it will work. Good luck!

[Lyssie]

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Um... can I just point out that you're only on day 5 and your scale says that you've actually moved 1lb of your body mass to muscle?? That means that even though you may weigh the same, you may be smaller.. Have you taken your measurements? A lot of folks track them as well as or instead of their weight. Oh, it also means that you're burning through more calories each day... and who knows, you may have a visit from the Whooshie Fairy soon.

[*SHOWSTOPPER*]

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I partially agree about the bars...however the bars stated that some are good for all phases...and I travel for a living so I can't alway bring a lot of perishables along with me.

the jello I am eating is sweeten with sucralose...not aspartame

I can definitely eat more veggies....no problems there...

I drink plenty of water, my minimum amount is 8 glasses a day...but on any given day I drink waaay more than that b/c of kick boxing

Yeah my coffee is caff I just needed it for the pick me up....which i new it shouldn't be but never effect me before...but I can give that up as well no problem.

Thanks Scarlet.....I'm taking everything u have said to heart...and will make some changes...

[studyinscarlet]

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No problem. I understand your dilemma with traveling. The bars are made by the Atkins corporation and their version of the program or what they consider suitable for different phases does not always comply with the rules stated in the DANDR 2002, which is what we follow on this forum. Its your choice though obviously but I have only heard bad things about those bars since I joined this forum. Maybe this thread will help you:

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/main-atkins-diet-forum/60249-tips-tricks-travelers.html

Cool that you found jello made with sucalose. Where did you get it?

[*SHOWSTOPPER*]

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I hope so Lyssie...that would be really great and thats why I am not sad about it...b/c I know it will happen...Just want to fine tune my eating habits...

[*SHOWSTOPPER*]

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Oh this is AWESOME Scarlet...thanks so much....and I found the jello at Whole foods...here in Atlanta.

[studyinscarlet]

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Cool thanks! I'll look for it at whole foods up here.