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**Sunny_0ne** · March 23, 2009, 07:34 PM

Re: someone talk to me.

Wellbutrin will probably be helpful for your weight loss.

Good for you for having an exercise plan in place.

In looking at your menu, I see a few problems.

First, where are your veggies? It's absolutely essential to get 3 cups of allowed veggies in each day.

Sugar free jello usually has aspartame, which isn't permitted. There are recipes to make your own with gelatin, koolaid powder and splenda.

Heavy cream IS allowed.... up to 3 ounces per day.

Splenda is limited to 3 packs a day.

Here are two ESSENTIAL links that you need to read. They will answer all your questions about the rules of induction, and what foods are allowed:

Atkins Diet Bulletin Board

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-low-carb-dieting-faqs/6782-what-rules-induction.html

Atkins Diet Bulletin Board

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/atkins-low-carb-dieting-faqs/6781-what-foods-can-eaten-induction.html

Glad you joined us, and best of luck!

**Georgiana** · March 23, 2009, 07:40 PM

Re: read me and im starting over last TIME!!

Ashley hun, you don't have to post this 10+ times. We promise we are reading your posts even if you only post once.

First of all, don't try to tweak the "diet" by eating only a certain number of calories. Eat when you're hungry, stop when you're satisfied, don't stuff yourself and don't go 6 hours without eating.

You don't write quantities in your menus, but if veggies add up to 3 cups, they look fine. A note about jello: the store-bought one is sweetened with aspartame, so it may stall you and/or cause cravings.

Cream is limited to 2-3 tablespoons per day as a "beverage", plus 3 oz of unsweetened heavy cream as a "special category food" (these foods have a higher chance to stall or slow down the weight loss in some folks).

Also, try to make some time and read the book.

**mitzimarie** · March 23, 2009, 07:51 PM

Re: read me and im starting over last TIME!!

Hi, Ashley

You've written to me, asking that I send you my Induction menu. I did Induction over 2 years ago, so I don't remember specifically what I ate. And even if I did, you need to come up with the foods on your own. I have no way of knowing what your tastes are, and I eat a lot of the same foods everyday. Not everyone can handle eating that way... you need to find what suits you best. You need to have a little faith in yourself. Remember, you are not that far from your goal weight... the weight is going to come off slow. I think that you need to be more patient.

I am going to post the acceptable food list, and also a link to an old thread that a lot us of on the board were using for a while, to report our food each day. You can get an idea of how people eat, from reading it.

Here is the link:
old "Stepping Back" Thread started by discolemonade back in September '07: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...ck-thread.html (OWLERS "Stepping Back" thread)

Here is the Acceptable Food list:

Acceptable Foods

These are the foods you may eat liberally during Induction:
all fish, all fowl, all shellfish, all meat, all eggs

*Oysters and mussels are higher in carbs than other shellfish, so limit them to four ounces per day.

**Processed meats, such as ham, bacon, pepperoni, salami, hot dogs and other luncheon meats and some fish may be cured with added sugar and will contribute carbs. Try to avoid meat and fish products cured with nitrates, which are known carcinogens. Also beware of products that are not exclusively meat, fish or fowl, such as imitation fish, meatloaf and breaded foods. Finally, do not consume more than four ounces of organ meats a day.

OTHER FOODS THAT ARE ACCEPTABLE DURING INDUCTION

Cheese
You can consume three to four ounces daily of the following full-fat, firm, soft and semi-soft aged cheeses*, including:

cheddar
cow, sheep and goat cheese
cream cheese
Gouda
mozzarella
Roquefort and other blue cheeses
Swiss
*All cheeses have some carbohydrate content. The quantity you eat should be governed by that knowledge. The rule of thumb is to count 1 ounce of cheese as equivalent to 1 gram of carbohydrate. Note that cottage cheese, farmer's cheese and other fresh cheeses are not permitted during Induction. No "diet" cheese, cheese spreads or whey cheeses are permitted. Individuals with known yeast symptoms, dairy allergy or cheese intolerance must avoid cheese. Imitation cheese products are not allowed, except for soy or rice cheese but check the carbohydrate content.

Vegetables
You can have two to three cups per day of:

alfalfa sprouts
daikon
mushrooms
arugula
endive
parsley
bok choy
escarole
peppers
celery
fennel
radicchio
chicory
jicama
radishes
chives
lettuce
romaine lettuce
cucumber
moche
sorrel
These salad vegetables are high in phytonutrients and provide a good source of fiber.

Other Vegetables
You can have one cup per day of these veggies if salad does not exceed two cups. The following vegetables are slightly higher in carbohydrate content than the salad vegetables:

artichoke
celery root
pumpkin
artichoke hearts
rhubarb
asparagus
chard
sauerkraut
bamboo shoots
collard greens
scallions
dandelion
snow peas
bean sprouts
dandelion greens
spaghetti squash
beet greens
eggplant
spinach
broccoli
hearts of palm
string or wax beans
broccoli rabe
kale
summer squash
brussels
kohlrabi
tomato
bean sprouts
leeks
turnips
cabbage
okra
water chestnuts
cauliflower
onion
zucchini
If a vegetable, such as spinach or tomato, cooks down significantly, it must be measured raw so as not to underestimate its carb count.

Salad Garnishes

crumbled crisp bacon
grated cheese
minced hard-boiled egg
sauted mushrooms
sour cream

Spices
All spices to taste, but make sure none contain added sugar.

Herbs
basil
garlic
rosemary
cayenne pepper
ginger
sage
cilantro
oregano
tarragon
dill
pepper
thyme
For salad dressing, use oil and vinegar (but not balsamic vinegar, which contains sugar) or lemon juice and herbs and spices. Prepared salad dressings without added sugar and no more than two carbs per tablespoon serving are also fine.

Acceptable Fats and Oils
Many fats, especially certain oils, are essential to good nutrition. Olive oil is particularly valuable. All other vegetable oils are allowed, the best being canola, walnut, soybean, grapeseed, sesame, sunflower and safflower oils, especially if they are labeled "cold-pressed" or "expeller-pressed." Do not cook polyunsaturated oils, such as corn, soybean and sunflower oil, at high temperatures or allow to brown or smoke.

Butter is allowed. Margarine should be avoided, not because of its carbohydrate content, but because it is usually made of trans fats (hydrogenated oils), which are a serious health hazard. (Some nonhydrogenated margarines are available in health-food stores.)

You don't have to remove the skin and fat from meat or fowl. Salmon and other cold-water fish are an excellent source of omega-3 fatty acids.

Remember that trying to do a low-fat version of the Atkins Nutritional ApproachTM will interfere with fat burning and derail your weight loss.

Artificial Sweeteners
You must determine which artificial sweeteners agree with you, but the following are allowed: sucralose (marketed as Splenda), saccharin, cyclamate and acesulfame-K. Natural sweeteners ending in the suffix "-ose," such as maltose, fructose, etc., should be avoided. However, certain sugar alcohols, such as maltitol, do not affect blood sugar and are acceptable.

Saccharin has been extensively studied, and harmful effects were produced in the lab when fed to rats only in extremely high doses. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has removed saccharin from its list of carcinogens, basing its decision upon a thorough review of the medical literature and the National Institute of Science's statement that there is "no clear association between saccharin and human cancer." It can be safely consumed in moderation, meaning no more than three packets a day. Saccharin is marketed as Sweet'n Low.

We discourage the use of aspartame (marketed as NutraSweet and Equal) because of clinical observations that it slows weight loss in certain individuals. The FDA has approved the herb stevia for use only as a supplement, not as a sweetener.

The Atkins preference, however, is sucralose (Splenda), the only sweetener made from sugar. Sucralose is safe, noncaloric and does not raise blood sugar. It has been used in Canada for years, and the FDA recently approved it after reviewing more than 100 studies conducted over the past 20 years. Note that each packet of sugar substitute contains about 1 gram of carbohydrate, so don't forget to include the amount in your daily totals.

Acceptable Beverages
Be sure to drink a minimum of eight eight-ounce glasses of water each day, including:

Filtered water
Mineral water
Spring water
Tap water
Additionally, you can have the following:

Clear broth/bouillon (not all brands; read the label)
Club soda
Cream, heavy or light (limit to two to three tablespoons a day; note carbohydrate content)
Decaffeinated coffee or tea*
Diet soda made with sucralose (Splenda); be sure to count the carbs
Essence-flavored seltzer (must say "no calories" and should not contain aspartame)
Herb tea (without barley or any fruit sugar added)
Lemon juice or lime juice (note that each contains 2.8 grams carbohydrate per ounce); limit to two to three tablespoons
*Excessive caffeine may cause unstable blood sugar and should be avoided by those who suspect they are caffeine dependent. Everyone should try to avoid caffeine. Grain beverages (coffee substitutes) are not allowed. Alcoholic beverages are also not permitted during Induction; those low in carbohydrates are an option, in moderation, in later phases.

Special Category Foods
To add variety, each day you can also eat 10 to 20 olives, half a small avocado, an ounce of sour cream or three ounces of unsweetened heavy cream, as well as two to three tablespoons of lemon juice or lime juice. But be aware that these foods occasionally slow down weight loss in some people, and may need to be avoided in the first two weeks. If you seem to be losing slowly, moderate your intake of these foods.

**Katie_1985** · March 23, 2009, 07:58 PM

Re: please read me ... im starting completly over one last time.. then i give up

Don't think about letting yourself down! There are good choices and bad ones and now it's your time to make all the good ones! GOOD FOR YOU!!!! You are destined to succeed and just keep that positive attitude!! I think you're only allowed 2 tbsp of splenda and I think I packet of splenda is 1.5 net carbs but I could be off. Some pple are really sensitve to both others aren't at all! So you have to do what is right for you!!

Same goes with the cheese! Some people are way more sensitive to it! So you may need to watch it!

GOOD LUCK AND WE ARE HERE FOR YOU! OXOXOOX

**ashleykc7182** · March 23, 2009, 08:09 PM

Re: please read me ... im starting completly over one last time.. then i give up

i appreciate you writing me back.. im just stressed i guess i mean its my fault. I want to be one of those girl who can eat what she wants

**Katie_1985** · March 23, 2009, 08:38 PM

Re: please read me ... im starting completly over one last time.. then i give up

Don't be stressed! It's not your fault!! Be accountable but don't take a toll on your self esteem!

**cindy8434** · March 23, 2009, 08:49 PM

Re: please read me ... im starting completly over one last time.. then i give up

Originally posted by ashleykc7182 View Post

i appreciate you writing me back.. im just stressed i guess i mean its my fault. I want to be one of those girl who can eat what she wants

Here here! I was thinking of that today "why cant I be one of those girls, who can eat anyting and be thin" ha ha! The funny thing is if you really look for them there arent that many, most women who are thin watch what they eat and work out all the time. I think if you gained 87 lbs with the pregnancy its AWESOME that you are 138 now!! I think you probably are doing things ok to begin with. Give yourself a pat on the shoulder. You have already taken the first real step to your goal. You can do it and are not alone. Try to find comfort in all the wonderful things you have like a healthy child and significant other that loves you, its more than most people have now in days. Get a fresh start and come back as often as you need. If you feel you are going to throw in the towel, start typing!!

momonmission99* · March 23, 2009, 10:49 PM

Re: please read me ... im starting completly over one last time.. then i give up

You can do it! I have tried and failed also. I Was like you and hadn't been able to do a 2 week clean induction. Here I am on day 12 and haven't cheated once.

There comes a time where you just say enough! I think for some people it takes more than one try, it definitely did for me.

Seriously think about how all the foods you loved made you feel. I was thinking about that as I was walking through the grocery store tonight. I used to LOVE super nachos from a local mexican place. I was thinking about them and literally felt like throwing up at how they made me feel after eating them. I have not felt sick and stuffed since being on this diet. I also look at foods I want and think, is it worth staying fat? How am I going to feel after I've eaten it when I've come this far.

Keep going! You are gonna do great!

**msanjelpie** · March 24, 2009, 08:04 AM

Re: please read me ... im starting completly over one last time.. then i give up

Starting a new anti-depressant and a new diet at the same time can be tricky... side effects may occur from one or the other and you won't really know which is causing it...

The diet however will help with feeling more 'up' so that can only help

Don't think about giving up before giving it a chance... Sometimes it takes 5+ times of trying before you are completely and thoroughly mentally prepared to make the commitment to the diet. Just take it one day at a time and don't worry about what might or might not happen months from now...

Also, don't be in such a rush to lose the weight... your body has to decide how quick to lose, eating less and forcing your body to lose faster could cause a cheat... just eat normal atkins, and let your body do the rest... don't over think it, don't waste your time counting calories... trust that atkins will work for you

I eat sugar free jello some of the time, but the one thing about it is it isn't very filling, and an hour later I'm looking for something else to eat... where as a snack of celery with cream cheese can last hours...

Ashley, you are depressed (postpartum?) and stressed... you are the perfect poster child for the way Atkins can change your life... if you can do it right and stick to it, those words will seem foreign to you in a couple of months... You'll wonder what all the fuss was about...

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