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  • #16
    Re: atkins bars?

    The Atkins company went bankrupt in 2005. They used to make things like syrups and flours and muffin mixes and what not. The products they have launched now are different from the ones back then.

    But you are right that Atkins did state the bars and shakes they were making back then then was acceptable on induction but we here has found that many people cannot lose with the products on sale now so we warn against them.

    Atkins was a believer in whole foods. Here is an excerpt from the biography written about him:
    The patients who stayed, however, were extremely loyal to both atkins and his low-carb diet. But they had one major complaint: In a fast-paced world where everything was low in fat or high in carbohydrates or both, it was difficult to find something that they could eat on the run while still remaining on the low-carb program. They had no time to prepare their own snacks. Perhaps something like the low-fat energy bars sold in convenience stores would be great, only low-carb instead.

    Atkins hesitated, and for a good reason. One of the things he constantly stressed with his patients was that they should eat foods that were as close to their natural state as possible, and for him, any kind of energy bar was as good as poison since it was clearly a processed food...

    But his patients continued to beg him for something---"you sell the vitamins and other supplements, why not energy bars?" they reasoned--and so, with great reluctance, he gave in and developed not only an energy bar but also a low-carb shake that would make it easier for patients to keep to their Atkins programs.

    "As long as you only use it for emergencies," he reminded them...

    The energy bars and shakes were a necessary evil, there only because he thought his patients were too lazy to prepare the real kind of unprocessed foods that were the mainstay of his diet.

    ---Excerpted from:
    Dr. Robert Atkins: The True Story of The Man Behind the War on Carbohydrates Lisa Rogak. Chamberlian Bros. 2005. Ch. 6
    Startdate: November 18, 2007. Female 5'2"

    May Challenges 2010
    Push-ups: 450/800
    Abs: 850/1900
    Squats: 650/1200
    Lunges: 500/1000
    Strength: 490/1200
    Running: 50/100 km


    2 Years on Atkins.................. President Challenge Medals earned

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    • #17
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      >>The Atkins company went bankrupt in 2005.>>

      Just to be clear ... they emerged from bankruptcy after 5 months.

      >>I think all of his products have unacceptable ingredients in them for induction>>

      While I agree that avoiding products is best, what are the unacceptable ingredients ... for those products marked as acceptable of all phases?
      J.

      "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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      • #18
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        >>Dr. Robert Atkins: The True Story of The Man Behind the War on Carbohydrates Lisa Rogak. Chamberlian Bros. 2005. Ch. 6>>

        This was an "unauthorized" biography.

        A review of it from 2005 at amazon.com:

        Dr. Robert Atkins : The True Story of the Man Behind the War on Carbohydrates (Hardcover) by Lisa Angowski Rogak, published by Chamberlin Books (Penguin Group). List price is $24.95. copyright 2004.

        Publisher's Weekly states:
        This disappointing bio isn't sure if it's meant to dig up and reveal scandal or to study a business/diet plan/trend in American culture and the man behind it. Atkins (1930–2003) is the man behind the low-carb diet mania, of course: the author of numerous books, creator of an eating plan that subverts conventional wisdom and no stranger to controversy. Rogak, who's written books on travel, pet care and Howard Dean, shares glimpses into Atkins's early life in Ohio, his longstanding interest in art and the way in which the low-carb lifestyle developed from a diet practiced by a small group of devotees to a thriving business that captured the attention of millions. Throughout, there's a tendency toward negativity; Rogak copiously quotes Atkins's former classmates and colleagues on the doctor's inflated sense of importance, as well as his consistent efforts to get nurses to go home with him (Rogak apparently did not interview Atkins's widow), although Rogak also says he is "greatly misunderstood." The author's inconsistency in clearly attributing the anecdotes and quotes she presents makes for disjointed reading. In the latter chapters—when Rogak relies more on interviews rather than speculation or quotes from former lovers and competitors—the text's rhythm is smoother. However, the book's uneven tone overall and scant sourcing will likely inspire more skepticism than satisfaction.

        Not saying the book doesn't have some merit ... I haven't read it myself ... just consider the possible agenda of the author.
        J.

        "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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        • #19
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          I read the bio. What would the agenda be? I agree it is not overall positive but too positive bios are not necessarily more believable. (nor are the authorized ones)
          Startdate: November 18, 2007. Female 5'2"

          May Challenges 2010
          Push-ups: 450/800
          Abs: 850/1900
          Squats: 650/1200
          Lunges: 500/1000
          Strength: 490/1200
          Running: 50/100 km


          2 Years on Atkins.................. President Challenge Medals earned

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          • #20
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            >What would the agenda be?>>

            Don't know.

            It's just something to keep in mind when considering the veracity of a book ... and she, according to the review, doesn't attribute her sources ... so one has to wonder what's true and what isn't true.

            The "tendency towards" negativity could indicate that the author had a point of view ...

            And how would one write a biography without interviewing Mrs. Atkins?
            J.

            "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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            • #21
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              Originally posted by atkinsgal08 View Post
              While I agree that avoiding products is best, what are the unacceptable ingredients ... for those products marked as acceptable of all phases?
              While there are more examples, I'll only give two.

              Atkins Advantage Caramel Chocolate Nut Roll Bar
              Acceptable in all phases (according to atkins.com)




              Atkins Advantage Chocolate Chip Granola Bar
              Acceptable in all phases (according to atkins.com)



              Rolled oats, oat flour, soy nuts, almonds, coconut, peanuts.....
              "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

              -- Theodore Roosevelt

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              • #22
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                No argument here!
                J.

                "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                • #23
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                  I just wish the people at atkins.com would stop pretending that their bars contain ingredients acceptable for induction and print on the labels/website that they are acceptable once people have reached the relevant rung/level of OWL. Or have they stopped suggesting people follow the OWL ladder?
                  I don't visit their website as my online time is limited due to real life commitments, so have no idea of what new ideas they are currently promoting
                  Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
                  Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



                  Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





                  F/60 yrs/5ft 5.5" (Though due to collapsing vertebrae I am now only 5'3" - but I refuse to recalculate my BMI )

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                  • #24
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                    >>I just wish the people at atkins.com would stop pretending that their bars contain ingredients acceptable for induction>>

                    How true.
                    J.

                    "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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