End of induction, getting discouraged

[mizski]

Re: End of induction, getting discouraged

MIZSKI, I can't seem to find the view button. I don't have FitPC though.

Maybe that is only something FitPC does? Do you know?

I usually scroll down to the bottom of my graphs and subtract the number of fiber from carbs.

Thanks for your help in advance. Michelle

Hi Michelle, the net carbs feature is only available on FitDay PC. The download version has additional features from the online one.

[PeteinVA]

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Mike gosh the Fitday stuff copied/pasted so well! (I don't know how to do that hehha)

Your weight graph looks spookily like mine. Down two, up one, down one, up two, down three etc.

As the others have said your weight loss is steady and predictable. Your calories, carbs, protein fat breakout looks good. You're burning more than you take in and your menu looks good.

It doesn't look like you have a problem to me and a little tweaking never hurts. You may find eating a bit more could help i.e. calorie intake.

Best of luck for continued success!

[Georgiana]

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Maybe I could try to increase my protein serving each meal.

You could do this, but add fat with it. Keep in mind that excess protein is converted to glucose and can interfere with weight loss.

I'd like to eat more salad, but I don't want it to raise my carbs.

Undereating calories and/or carbohydrates will slow down your metabolism. So while you might believe that eating as little as possible of each is a good idea to lose weight quicker, it is not true. Furthermore, undereating calories on a low-carbohydrate diet has a negative impact on your thyroid. So you need to make sure you are eating enough.

Thanks. The reason I'm getting discouraged is because it was so fast at first (I guess that was mostly water), but now I seem to be having a lot of days with no drop at all.

Yep. The initial loss is mostly water weight. Now you are losing primarily fat. That's a good thing! Take body measurements too. Don't go exclusively by the scale.

The thing is, in the book it says eat until you are satiated, but don't stuff yourself. Well, to get the 1900-2000 down now, I will have to be stuffing myself a little.

Sometimes, you need to fight against the appetite suppressant effect of ketosis in order to prevent undereating.

Why is it so important to get so much fat?

It is primarily the ratio of fat to carbohydrates that fuels lipolysis/ketosis. In ketosis, fat is your body's main source of fuel.

breads

Nut breads can be added in OWL Rung 3. For Induction, you can make Revolution Rolls, or flax crackers, or flax muffins. For flax, see the limits in DANDR.

pasta

Maybe... egg soup noodles? This is a recipe Megs posted: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...p-noodles.html. I haven't tried it though.

Can you find spaghetti squash in Japan?

You can make zucchini tagliatelle. I made this recipe a few times and it's very good: Zucchini "Tagliatelle" with Mint, Cucumber, and Lemon Recipe at Epicurious.com

rice

What about riced cauliflower?

chocolate

SF cocoa/chocolate can be added in OWL Rung 3. Of course, if you have a chocolate addiction, it might be wiser not to.

Now it seems I'm stuck with some form of meat, some salad and some cheese.

If you simplify it this way, then before you were "stuck" with some form of starch and sugar. Try new recipes. Find substitutes for the foods you were eating before. For example, mashed kohlrabi tastes better, imo, than mashed potatoes. You just need to find new foods that you like.

Oh, also that since I started the program, I have seen a number of things saying research on red meat shows eating more than about 400g a week raises cancer risk by about 20%, so I have really been trying to cut back on steak.

Yeah... I know the study you read. But you probably haven't seen this news: News | Breaking News | Feedstuffs

Of course, in the end it's your choice what source of protein you prefer. But I don't trust that study.

Will do. Thanks a lot. One more question though, should I continue induction, move on to OWL? (lol, I'm sure the book, which I'm going to read some more of today, will tell me).

My advice would be to move to OWL. And add more veggie (net!) carbs to your menu, or else your weight loss will slow down. Make sure you are also eating enough.

You might want to re-read Chapters 12 and 13.

[MikeInJapan]

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Thanks for all those suggestions Georgiana. I'll definitely try the riced cauliflower. Tried to buy one last night but they were sold out

Well, third morning today on exactly 128.4 kg. So I guess this is a mini-stall.

And yesterday I tried to eat more too, I got in 2,239 kcals and 24 net carbs.
Also drank a fair bit of water and walked twice for about 30 mins a time.

Annoying. Starting to wondering if I'll just stay on 128.4 forever.
I decided to stay on induction for another 2 weeks at least though, and try to shift some of this weight (surely the scales have to start moving again eventually, right??).

[my31168]

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Mizski - thanks for the update on the FitDay.

[atkinsgal08]

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>>I decided to stay on induction for another 2 weeks at least though, and try to shift some of this weight (surely the scales have to start moving again eventually, right??).>>

Staying on Induction might be counter-productive.

It might not yield any results as to weight loss.

[MikeInJapan]

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Maybe, but I re-read the book at the end of the induction section, and he really seems to be saying that if you have a lot of weight to lose, or want to lose it faster, stay on induction for longer. What do I have to lose? I'll try it for another 2 weeks, and if I don't lose much, I'll move on to OWL.

[atkinsgal08]

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My advice would be to spend some time correcting the errors you posted about in the first post of this topic.

As to your questions "What do I have to lose"? ... well, I've seen a lot of people "give up" because they stayed on Induction too long ... got afraid to move to OWL. Couldn't believe that eating MORE would work ... since eating LESS wasn't "working".

[MikeInJapan]

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My advice would be to spend some time correcting the errors you posted about in the first post of this topic.

As to your questions "What do I have to lose"? ... well, I've seen a lot of people "give up" because they stayed on Induction too long ... got afraid to move to OWL. Couldn't believe that eating MORE would work ... since eating LESS wasn't "working".

I hear you. But I'm going to be eating more (as I did yesterday), due to correcting the "errors" you were talking about. Actually I overdid it a little yesterday, 2,239 kcal and 24 carbs.

I'll get it on track.

[atkinsgal08]

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Is that NET carbs?

[MikeInJapan]

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Is that NET carbs?

Yes, net, and yeah, that's too many for induction. And I am being more careful

[chinadoll]

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Mike, also keep in mind that a great many people go through PISS (Post Induction Stall Syndrome). Just after Induction you may have a couple of weeks with no loss as your body readjusts. This is usually followed by a healthy drop of several pounds once your body is ready. The only thing to do is wait it out and don't give in to the temptation to chuck it all. Here is the link for PISS: http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...-expected.html

[msanjelpie]

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And here's my FitDay overview:

From your fitday overview I see that your percentages are off... It should be fat 65%, protein 30% and carbs 5%. Having too much protein and not enough fat can definitely slow things down...

Also in regards to red meat... cancer should be the least of your worries right now weighing what you weigh... Get off the weight first, (heart disease is #1 killer, not cancer) and then you can tweak your diet to be more poultry/fish and less beef... In the mean time, i.e. hamburger is a great way to get red meat + fat in one meal...

Looking at your first graph of your downward trend, it looks exactly as it should... Straight down and then leveling out to a slower downward trend. You should start losing again as soon as your body realizes that you are serious about this whole weight loss thing...

[MikeInJapan]

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I suppose you're right about the heart disease risks as opposed to cancer.

My weight finally budged this morning, another 1/2 kg off. Woohoo!

Gonna repeat yesterday's gameplan again today and see if it happens again.