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    Hello everyone,

    I need help.
    I have read atkins for life, but not the diet revolution (I am in the UK and my city's library only had that one book) I've been lurking here for ages learning how to do a proper induction, and was hoping someone could help me.

    I have been on the induction phase for 9 whole days. I have not lost 1 pound. not an ounce (actually afternoon of day two I was down half a pound but then went back up day 3)

    I am 5'8" and 144 pounds. I am looking to be 125 pounds. at a 20 pound weight loss I thought induction would be a goood idea (I like the idea of gradually re-introducing carbs to get your ACE)

    I have had a clean induction, the exception ONE day i went .45 over the limit. I count EVERY carb. Trace carbs included. I even check for differences between the one serving size and the 100g size and always count the one thats more.

    no wheat, no sugar. I drink many many water bottles a day.
    I had 1 beverage with aspartame

    I eat approox. 2 cups of either baby spinach, asparagus, rocket or broccoli per day

    day 1 -18.6 carbs - 1,026 cals
    day 2- 17.3 carbs - 1,362 cals
    day3 - 19 carbs - 1,385 cals
    day 4 - 20.45 carbs - 1,730 cals
    day 5 - 17.22 carbs - 1,504 cals
    day 6 - 19 carbs - 1,694 cals
    day 7- 13.6 carbs - 1,492 cals
    day 8 - 11.73 carbs- 1,010 cals
    day 9 - 19.55 carbs - 1,200 cals

    The ONLY thing I can think of is that my protien is usually as high or higher than my fat intake.

    My BMR is >supposed< to be 1482.69 cals. I tried going over and going under and the scale didn't budge one way or another.

    I take a 20 min brisk walk every night (except the first 3 days where i felt very ill) on toop of things like housework and grocery shopping ect.

    If I'm not losing weight after 9 days, should I try to do another 14? should I even start OWL or should I just banish myself to under 20g of carbs for the rest of my life??

    Oh. I don't eat meat and I'm allergic to eggs.
    Last edited by TwisterB; November 5, 2009, 03:04 PM.

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    Re: HELP - advice needed

    >> I have read atkins for life, but not the diet revolution (I am in the UK>>

    DANDR is available for sale in the UK ... and used book shops will most likely have it, too.

    Atkins for Life is aimed at those doing maintenance or for those who don't need to lose weight.

    Since you don't have much weight to lose, your rate of loss will be slow.

    Also ... your calories are pretty inconsistent ... aiming for consistency there is a good plan.

    How much water are you drinking?
    J.

    "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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    • #3
      Re: HELP - advice needed

      Originally posted by TwisterB View Post
      I eat approox. 2 cups of either baby spinach, asparagus, rocket or broccoli per day

      day 1 -18.6 carbs - 1,026 cals
      day 2- 17.3 carbs - 1,362 cals
      day3 - 19 carbs - 1,385 cals
      day 4 - 20.45 carbs - 1,730 cals
      day 5 - 17.22 carbs - 1,504 cals
      day 6 - 19 carbs - 1,694 cals
      day 7- 13.6 carbs - 1,492 cals
      day 8 - 11.73 carbs- 1,010 cals
      day 9 - 19.55 carbs - 1,200 cals
      Are these net carbs? They seem pretty high for someone who is only eating 2 cups of vegetables. Are over half of your net carbs coming from vegetables?

      At your height and weight... don't expect to lose weight fast. When was the last time you were 125 lbs?
      "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

      -- Theodore Roosevelt

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      • #4
        Re: HELP - advice needed

        @ atkins gal
        I know Atkins for life isnt the same as the diet book. I read it when my husbands mother went on atkins and, thinking it was unhealthy, read it to spite her I guess. About 10 pages in I was a convert. I found this board shortly after. The rules for induction are pretty thoroughly laid out here. I don't have the money to buy new books at the moment.

        I have a 500 ml water bottle, I refill it 7-8 or sometimes more times a day. I also keep one by my bed which I'll get about 1/2 way through during any given night. So probably 4 litres a day.

        My calories are high on days I force them to be high. I'm fully satiated at 1,200 but I read you shouldn't dip below your BMR because that can cause you to stall.

        also I've been trying to drizzle rapeseed oil over my dishes to make my meals less protien dominant.

        @ georgiana

        They are net carbs (UK labels don't even list fiber as carbs)

        I eat alot of tofu and TVP, so that's got carbs in it.

        I was 120 before I started uni, I was 155 by the end of first year. I stayed about that weight +/- 5 lbs over 4 years until I got married, when I dropped down to 145.

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        • #5
          Re: HELP - advice needed

          Twister,

          Well, first welcome!!

          Secondly, I agree with Georgiana that you don't have a substantial amount to lose so it will come off slower than most. I believe the expected rate is abour 1-2% of the total weight to lose will come off during Induction, so if you're looking to lose about 20 pounds you might lose around .4 pounds. What is more important during induction is that you are retraining your body to burn fat and create less cravings, etc.

          Thirdly, tofu is made from soy and that is not allowed until you are a few rungs into OWL. No tofu on Induction. I've made that mistake. Try adding in more veggies, get up to the full 3 cups recommended and you may see those numbers drop quicker..many do.

          Finish out your full 14 days of Induction and then I would recommend going into OWL since you have a small amount to lose.

          As for the book, not sure if they have this in the UK but in the US there are cities that have FreeCycle sites on Yahoo where people can donate items they don't want to people who want them and can request items that others can donate (got my fake christmas tree free this way) and you could ask for the book through that. Or, again if they have it in the UK, you could try a source like www.paperbookswap.com where you can post old paperbacks and swap with others. That's how I got my copy of the book. There are ways to get them if you think creatively. I think it would prove ENORMOUSLY helpful to have the book as you go through the OWL rungs.

          Keep on drinking that water, walking, and eating right and it WILL happen hun! Promise!
          Bellajgw aka Jacqui
          242/223/140


          Mini-Goal 1: 229 MET on 02/08/10
          Mini-Goal 2: 219
          Mini-Goal 3: 209
          Mini-Goal 4: 199
          Mini-Goal 5: 189
          Mini-Goal 6: 179
          Mini-Goal 7: 169
          Mini-Goal 8: 159

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          • #6
            Re: HELP - advice needed

            >>I don't have the money to buy new books at the moment.>>

            You don't have to buy it new. I'm sure you can find a copy at a used book shop. Is there an Oxfam store by you?

            >> have a 500 ml water bottle, I refill it 7-8 or sometimes more times a day.>>

            If it's a disposable bottle, that's not safe.
            J.

            "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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            • #7
              Re: HELP - advice needed

              >eep<

              Thanks! I was feeling kind of un-empowered.

              I just found the uk freecycle. Thanks for that too!

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              • #8
                Re: HELP - advice needed

                have a 500 ml water bottle, I refill it 7-8 or sometimes more times a day.
                If it's a disposable bottle, that's not safe.
                Why is it not safe?

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                • #9
                  Re: HELP - advice needed

                  Because the plastic in it wasn't designed for reuse ... and chemicals leach into the water.

                  Best to buy a bottle designed for reuse.

                  Last edited by atkinsgal08; November 5, 2009, 05:26 PM. Reason: added link
                  J.

                  "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                  • #10
                    Re: HELP - advice needed

                    Yeah, BPA's can leak from the plastic.

                    I have a BPA free nalgene that I use the majority of the time.

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                    • #11
                      Re: HELP - advice needed

                      Hi Twister
                      Welcome to our ADBB family

                      The most I have paid for a copy of Dr Atkins New Diet Revolution is 50 pence in a charity shop

                      If you have a charity shop near you I would ask them if they have any copies of DANDR out the back if there are none on the shelves. My local ones tend not to put 'diet books' out for sale but toss them in their 'to be dumped' box and ditch them from time to time.

                      If you are still not lucky then send me a pm and I can send you one if you send me a large SAE!
                      Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
                      Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



                      Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





                      F/60 yrs/5ft 5.5" (Though due to collapsing vertebrae I am now only 5'3" - but I refuse to recalculate my BMI )

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                      • #12
                        Re: HELP - advice needed

                        Originally posted by bellajgw View Post
                        Thirdly, tofu is made from soy and that is not allowed until you are a few rungs into OWL. No tofu on Induction.
                        I don't think this is right. I think tofu is what is allowed as "soy cheese" in the cheese rules (footnote to page 125 in my copy).

                        However, if somebody does not eat meat or eggs and has to stick to the rules about cheese, whether tofu is included in the cheese allowance or not, it might be tough to get enough protein/fat on induction.

                        Twister, do you eat fish? Can you tell us exactly what you are eating on a sample or typical day, including weight of each food if possible? Or at least a guess as to the size of portion?
                        Rosie

                        5 ft 6

                        Start 165
                        Mini goal 150
                        Mini goal 140
                        Goal 133



                        "Fat is the only substance that won't have an impact on your blood sugar." DANDR, ch 5


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                        • #13
                          Re: HELP - advice needed

                          Originally posted by RosieC View Post
                          I think tofu is what is allowed as "soy cheese" in the cheese rules (footnote to page 125 in my edition).
                          That's right!

                          However, if somebody does not eat meat or eggs and has to stick to the rules about cheese, whether tofu is included in the cheese allowance or not, it might be tough to get enough protein/fat on induction.
                          I don't see why fat would be a problem, because they can always consume oils and butter.

                          But if someone does not eat meat and eggs, then they might be better off starting in OWL.
                          "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

                          -- Theodore Roosevelt

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                          • #14
                            Re: HELP - advice needed

                            I agree with Elizellen - I went to 1 thrift store and found 6 copies in one paperback section. I bought 5 and gave them to all of my friends that were curious about what I was doing. This book was a best seller, there has to be one floating around at a thrift store or garage sale nearby?
                            Sherrie OWL

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