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    Hi:

    I’m currently daydreaming of a hypothetical liquid Atkins induction product that is vegan-friendly and has all the nutrients of vegetables, fruits, herbs, algae, seaweed, and other plants that are necessary/beneficial for human health. It also contains beneficial and essential microbes [such as probiotics]. All the aforementioned are in amounts optimum for human health.

    This product is completely organic and free of any pesticides, synthetic ethylene and other man-made substances that compromise the heath of plants and their human consumers. In addition, no plants used in the product are gene-modified.

    Prior to the making of this product, all proteins & fats are pre-digested completely, and the following substances are removed from the plants:

    1.Any carbohydrates that will eventually [after digestion] be absorbed into the bloodstream. These carbohydrates are bad for induction. Fibers are not removed as they don’t count as net carbs and actually benefit health during induction and otherwise. Simple sugar and digestible starches are completely removed.
    2.Unhealthy amino acids [such as homocysteine which damages arteries]
    3.Glycerol [which is unnecessary calories and can be produced by the body]
    4.Saturated fatty acids [which contribute to atherosclerosis]
    5.Trans fatty acids [which are far worse for health than saturated fatty acids]

    All plants used in this product – excluding tomatoes -- are raw. Tomatoes are boiled to bring out the lycopenes.

    To make the product healthier, bad minerals [such as lead and thallium] are removed. To decrease blood pressure, sodium and chloride are decreased [but not completely removed]. The sodium is decreased as much as can be without leading to symptoms of sodium deficiency. The chloride is decreased as much as possible without causing any serious symptoms of chloride deficiency – the consumer should still be able to safely perform tasks taken for granted – such as driving or operating machinery. The decrease in chloride will help balance out the acidity caused by ketosis. To help prevent kidney stones during ketosis, extra potassium ions are added to the product. The potassium is also alkaline and will further assist the body in keeping itself non-acidic during ketosis.

    The product has drinking water added to it to make it easier to drink.

    This product is in small health-friendly, eco-friendly bottles. Five bottles per day should be consumed. The bottles are in a package and are of different sizes. The biggest bottle should be consumed in the morning. The smallest should be consumed in the evening. In between, are bottles of different sizes. Earlier in the day, the bigger bottles should be consumed and as the day progresses the smaller bottles should be consumed. This routine follows the saying “eat breakfast link a king, lunch like a prince, and dinner like a pauper” – except the food is divided into 5 smaller meals instead of 3 bigger meals. This is an extra benefit to diabetes patients who are following Atkins’s induction.

    It is important to understand that this product will initially not satiate it’s users. However, once ketosis kicks in, appetite will decrease and consumers will no longer feel the urge to eat.

    To summarize, the plants in the product are chopped to the molecular level. Second, the proteins/fats are pre-digested all the way down to their monomers. Third, the undesirable substances are removed. Finally, good microbes, potassium ions, and drinking water are added.

    Regards,

    Green Xenon

  • #2
    Re: Atkins Induction Helper

    Good luck finding something like that.



    41 pounds down and counting

    If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else. - Yogi Berra

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    • #3
      Re: Atkins Induction Helper

      Ummm... have you read Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution (2002)?
      "Get action. Seize the moment. Man was never intended to become an oyster."

      -- Theodore Roosevelt

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      • #4
        Re: Atkins Induction Helper

        Wake up!
        Natalie

        "You can suffer the pain of change or suffer remaining the way you are." (Joyce Meyer)

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by Desertthorn View Post
          Good luck finding something like that.
          If this product did exist, do you think it would benefit obese patients? I think yes and greatly so.

          I just wish someone would start a company, get the company to make this theoretical product, and sell it to the general public at a reasonable price.

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          • #6
            Re: Atkins Induction Helper

            Dr. Atkins recommended we not drink our vegetables.
            J.

            "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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            • #7
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              Originally posted by atkinsgal08 View Post
              Dr. Atkins recommended we not drink our vegetables.
              Why? Don't you get the same nutrients.

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              • #8
                Re: Atkins Induction Helper

                Look up the reason in your book!
                J.

                "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                • #9
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                  What would happen to me if I spent a year on a diet using only this product and in the manner I described [5 bottles a day, first bottle biggest, next bottles getting progressively smaller, the last bottle smallest]?

                  Anything unhealthy? I doubt it.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Atkins Induction Helper

                    Why do you think a liquid diet is something that 1) you could do for a year, 2) teaches you anything about FOOD?

                    And ... here's the big question ... what do you think would happen when you start chewing food again?
                    J.

                    "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                    • #11
                      Re: Atkins Induction Helper

                      Originally posted by atkinsgal08 View Post
                      Why do you think a liquid diet is something that 1) you could do for a year, 2) teaches you anything about FOOD?
                      It maybe liquid but it still has lots of fiber. I may not be a vegan but this drink would be ideal for a vegan because it used only plants, is free of carbs other than fiber, has the optimum amount of good amino acids.

                      Originally posted by atkinsgal08 View Post
                      And ... here's the big question ... what do you think would happen when you start chewing food again?
                      The chewing muscles will weaken due to lack of use. But chances are, the user won't care to eat regular food again, due to ketosis. The ketosis will mask his/her appetite and he/she will likely be content drinking my meal replacement product for a long time, if not for life.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Atkins Induction Helper

                        Good luck with your business plan.
                        J.

                        "Your life will never change until you change your choices."

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                        • #13
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                          well lets see what is wrong with your bottles.

                          first
                          who or what is going to predigest the proteins and fats and what wasteproducts are those predigestion critters going to contribute to the product.

                          second

                          fats come in different lengths and short and medium length saturated fats don't cause any atherosclerosis. But since you are having them predigested lenght and type won't matter cause the bonds will all be broken any ways.

                          absorbtion of vits and minerals are effected by lack of fats in the diet and if your fats are going to be predigested the fat soluble items in our healthy Atkins diet will not be absorbed and no matter how much of those vits is in your product nobody will be absorbing one iota of the fat soluble vits.

                          Leaving fiber behind will cause some of the vits, minerals, and proteins to be bound up by it and not absorbed.


                          since you removed all carbs what are the probiotic bacteria going to be eating to stay alive while the product goes from production to your meal time?

                          You will not be using many muscles used in chewing food so they will atropy.

                          raw veggies have a cellulose covering to each cell that has to be fractured which is why cooking many veggies makes more of the nutrtiants availible to our bodies.

                          how are you planning to flavor this compound and what sweetner will you use since you took out all the natural sugars from the veggies and fruits?
                          by the book atkinseer

                          started 6/1/02 at 313
                          goalie 5/04 at 167 with under 15% body fat ADBB Presidents exercise Challenge


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                          • #14
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                            Originally posted by 2big4mysize View Post
                            who or what is going to predigest the proteins and fats and what wasteproducts are those predigestion critters going to contribute to the product.
                            Enzymes can digest proteins and fats.

                            Originally posted by 2big4mysize View Post
                            fats come in different lengths and short and medium length saturated fats don't cause any atherosclerosis. But since you are having them predigested lenght and type won't matter cause the bonds will all be broken any ways.
                            Fats have to be digested in order to enter the bloodstream cause any effects.

                            There still will be fat in the diet, it's just that they will be broken down to fatty acids [and the glycerol portions removed] prior to bottling.

                            Originally posted by 2big4mysize View Post
                            absorbtion of vits and minerals are effected by lack of fats in the diet and if your fats are going to be predigested the fat soluble items in our healthy Atkins diet will not be absorbed and no matter how much of those vits is in your product nobody will be absorbing one iota of the fat soluble vits.
                            Not all fatty acids are removed. Just the saturated and trans ones.

                            Originally posted by 2big4mysize View Post
                            Leaving fiber behind will cause some of the vits, minerals, and proteins to be bound up by it and not absorbed
                            Note true. If anything, fiber [especially soluble fiber] assists in the absorption of the aforementioned substances.

                            Originally posted by 2big4mysize View Post
                            since you removed all carbs what are the probiotic bacteria going to be eating to stay alive while the product goes from production to your meal time?
                            Since fibers are not removed from my product, the probiotic bacteria can feed on the fermentable types of fibers -- most soluble fibers can be metabolized by bacteria.

                            Originally posted by 2big4mysize View Post
                            raw veggies have a cellulose covering to each cell that has to be fractured which is why cooking many veggies makes more of the nutrtiants availible to our bodies.
                            That won't matter, since the plants are chopped to the molecular level prior to bottling.

                            Originally posted by 2big4mysize View Post
                            how are you planning to flavor this compound and what sweetner will you use since you took out all the natural sugars from the veggies and fruits?
                            No flavors or sweeteners needed.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Atkins Induction Helper

                              Originally posted by Green Xenon View Post
                              If this product did exist, do you think it would benefit obese patients? I think yes and greatly so.

                              I just wish someone would start a company, get the company to make this theoretical product, and sell it to the general public at a reasonable price.
                              Actually I think there is, sort of. The Metafast?? Diet, is like that. They give you packs of stuff you mix with water and drink. My friend is down over 70 pounds, she doesn't look particularly heathy, but she has lost the weight. But at some point, she has to give it up and start eating again and then what will she have gained.



                              41 pounds down and counting

                              If you don't know where you are going, you will wind up somewhere else. - Yogi Berra

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