Soy flour

[Bodd_tm]

Ok almost a week in, and I was wondering. A very good friend of mine sent me some soy flour as I didnt know where to get it - Any ideas what I can do with it? I fancy having a mess around in the kitchen!

[Elizellen]

Re: Soy flour

Once you reach the 6th OWL level/rung (legumes) you can start to use soy flour in recipes and see if it is one of the foods your body will allow you tio eat without problems.

So pack it away for now - maybe keep it in the fridge so it doesn't get rancid?

For induction there are ways of making your menus interesting using ground linseed (flax in USA) and when you reach 3rd OWL rung you can use ground almonds for making recipes.

When you do decide to try using the soy flour you will have the advantage on me of not wasting money, as I actualy went out and bought a big bag of it intending to use it for baking but the first few recipes I made were so disgusting I threw the lot away I never told my hubby how much including postage that cost us

Soy flour has a verrrry 'distinctive' (putting it politely) taste

[ziggy]

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careful of soy make sure its 100% properly fermented but i think only japan does that but check these links

Cruel and Unusual Punishment: Soy Diet for Illinois Prisoners

Welcome to Soy Online Service

soy lethicin is bad too

[Bodd_tm]

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Ha Ha I've heard that about soy. Ok, ill put it away for now - its only a small bag. I bought some ground flax from a health food shop today - looking forward to messing about with that instead. God but its hard to buy a lot of the things over here that you can in the US. I think theres a niche in the market for a decent chain of low carb cafe's in the UK.

[atkinsgal08]

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Keep the flax in the refrigerator or freezer.

If you're not going to use the soy flour, I would freeze that, too.

>>its hard to buy a lot of the things over here that you can in the US.>>

Such as?

Many of us get along quite nicely without a lot of "products".

[Bodd_tm]

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Forgive me for saying so, but isnt that a bit rude?

Im glad for you that you get along fine without "products" but I was pointing out that low carb living is more prevelant in the US than UK so that there are a lot more resources, "products" and support. And with the hectic lives we live in any country, then I feel it would be nice to have the same range in major supermarkets of low carb products, that you can only buy online at heavily inflated prices here in the UK.

[Georgiana]

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low carb living is more prevelant in the US than UK so that there are a lot more resources, "products" and support.

We have no products in Germany (not even at "inflated prices") and you do not need products to be successful on Atkins. In fact, not having products and eating real food might actually help you more.

As for more support being available in the US... what do you mean by support? What kind of support would you like to have that is not available in the UK?

And with the hectic lives we live in any country, then I feel it would be nice to have the same range in major supermarkets of low carb products

The best way to deal with a busy life is to plan, not to have products.

If you plan your meals so that you always have something available, then products are not necessary... not for convenience, at least.

If you want products because you want something sweet... not feeding a craving is usually a better route.

[Georgiana]

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This might help you with the ticker:

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/testing-technical-questions/82317-how-create-ticker.html

[atkinsgal08]

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>>I feel it would be nice to have the same range in major supermarkets of low carb products,>>

Have you been to a US supermarket recently?

Low carb "products" aren't exactly in any "range" here.

Maybe that's why I don't find that I need them ... since they're not readily available, I either do without, make my own, or do without.

<<Forgive me for saying so, but isnt that a bit rude?>>

No clue what was rude, but I forgive you.

[Elizellen]

Re: Soy flour

Actually in a way I am glad that we do not have much in the way of self-styled 'lowcarb' products over here, as it makes it so much easier to follow Atkins.

Meat, cream, eggs, cheese (both plain and the fancy continental ones), excellent butter and the 54 vegetables on the allowed list for induction are all reasonably cheap and of good quality even in the cheapo supermarkets like Lidl and Aldi (though we cannot get jicama and spaghetti squash seems to appear only once in a blue moon )

So don't worry about not being able to get the Atkins and similar products - which are mostly not even induction-legal according to their ingredients

Another good thing about being outside the USA is that our manufacturers are not able to get away with labelling something as having zero carbs per serving if it has less than 0.5 carbs in it, they have to state per 100 grams or 100 mls.

So we can work out accurately how many carbs there are in two tablespoons of dressing or mayonnaise rather than have to guess!!

[Bodd_tm]

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Oh dear. I seem to have opened a little bit of a minefield here. I'm sorry if i've offended anyone but I do find that with 2 kids under seven and a full time job, its pretty difficult to "plan" all the time. Hence the need for some pre prepared food i can cram into my mouth when I have about 2 minutes to plan the weekly shop, get the kids to respective clubs, and field phone calls from the office every 5 mins (slight exaggeration but im sure you know where i'm coming from.) whilst still ensuring I keep under 20 g carbs (most from vegetables) per day.
Also with regards to eating out, I still strongly feel that there is a niche in the market for some low carb cafe/restaurants, where carb content is clearly shown on menus. Maybe im an optimist.

[Elizellen]

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Also with regards to eating out, I still strongly feel that there is a niche in the market for some low carb cafe/restaurants, where carb content is clearly shown on menus. Maybe im an optimist.

That would be a great idea as it would take the guesswork out of the process of ordering

Unfortunately unless someone like Jamie, Gordon, Heston, that irritating Raymond Blanc or our own dear Delia starts lowcarbing the day for someone setting up a chain of lowcarb restaurants is far away I am sure.

[atkinsgal08]

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>>'m sorry if i've offended anyone but I do find that with 2 kids under seven and a full time job, its pretty difficult to "plan" all the time. Hence the need for some pre prepared food i can cram into my mouth when I have about 2 minutes to plan the weekly shop,>>

No offense given, I think.

So you will have to plan ahead when you have time ... so that when you don't have as much time, you're still prepared.

>>with regards to eating out, I still strongly feel that there is a niche in the market for some low carb cafe/restaurants, where carb content is clearly shown on menus. Maybe im an optimist.>>

Most of the US restaurants that featured "low carb" items during the height of the low carb craze around 2004 no longer do so.

What would be helpful is nutritional information of all sorts on a menu (after all, people doing low fat, etc. care about nutritional information, too).

Since that isn't always the case, I simply know what's acceptable for the phase of Atkins I'm on, and order accordingly.

[liv]

Re: Soy flour

Oh dear. I seem to have opened a little bit of a minefield here. I'm sorry if i've offended anyone but I do find that with 2 kids under seven and a full time job, its pretty difficult to "plan" all the time. Hence the need for some pre prepared food i can cram into my mouth when I have about 2 minutes to plan the weekly shop, get the kids to respective clubs, and field phone calls from the office every 5 mins (slight exaggeration but im sure you know where i'm coming from.) whilst still ensuring I keep under 20 g carbs (most from vegetables) per day.
Also with regards to eating out, I still strongly feel that there is a niche in the market for some low carb cafe/restaurants, where carb content is clearly shown on menus. Maybe im an optimist.

this I get
unfortunately I also think that it is one of the reason we are getting fatter. The food available to us as fast food is very unhealthy and make us over eat and low on real nutrients. But I understand we want convenience. I used to be the queen of the can opener myself. I don't go there anymore. And though it has taken a bit of time I have learned that you can do whole foods fast if you know what to do. One of the things is to do prep work early. To pack your veggies pre prepped in teh fridge so you can stir fry it fast.
Using a crock pot is also great. You can have a chicken or a roast going and then ready to serve when you get home.
The freezer is also great. Pre cook some things and have them ready for days when you really do not have time.

We do not have much for convenience here either. Though I sometimes have wanted it, I have had to rethink how I deal with foods.

Anyways - this is a very important topic. And one of the core things I think. So I am glad you started it.

[Tiggerdagibit]

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I understand what you mean about convenience. I first did Atkins in '03 when it was HUGE. There were a lot of manufacturers on the bandwagon. Most of the stuff I did without, but there were a few products that I liked. One that comes to mind is Carb Options. They were LC foods (bbq sauce, peanut butter, etc) that made it just a little easier. They were in mainstream grocery stores and I didn't have to make a special trip to a health food store to find them. I think it's always best to eat fresh, real foods, but sometimes it was nice to have those around.

I just bought some soy flour too. It was on clearance at the store and I look forward to trying it. I wish they had had almond flour though because I've heard several people say they didn't like soy flour. Guess I'll find out later! lol