Bread Question

[demons19]

I am considering giving Atkins a try and heres my question.......Since the idea is to keep your carbs under 20g, why can't you eat those low-carb breads as part of your first 2 weeks or beyond. I keep reading you cannot eat any bread in the beginning but why would it matter where your 20g comes from?
Because I did a search and there appears to many so called low-carb breads and bagels that would help make this diet possible for me. Any input would be appreciated

[not2late]

Re: Bread Question

I am considering giving Atkins a try and heres my question.......Since the idea is to keep your carbs under 20g, why can't you eat those low-carb breads as part of your first 2 weeks or beyond. I keep reading you cannot eat any bread in the beginning but why would it matter where your 20g comes from?
Because I did a search and there appears to many so called low-carb breads and bagels that would help make this diet possible for me. Any input would be appreciated

Hi.

During Induction you are limited to what is on the Induction Acceptable Foods List and the Induction Rules. One of the Induction rules state: no grains, legumes, fruit, nuts, dairy other than cheese, cream and butter. So if the bread contains wheat flour or soy flour, it's not acceptable for Induction.

Part of the reason for this is because some of us have food intolerances of which we are unaware (see chapter on Food Intolerances in the book). So, some of us are sensitive to wheat and other grains, eventhough we've been eating these foods our entire lives. One of our administrators cannot eat low carb bread and still lose weight. I can't eat cantaloupe without getting severe hunger pains and cravings.

The other part is that all carbs are not made equally. Some carbs/carb combinations cause a higher spike in your blood glucose and insulin than others. Since part of the weight loss on Atkins depends on controlling insulin and blood glucose, certain foods are forbidden, certain foods are limited. For example, one teaspoon of sugar has 4 net carbs the same amount as 3/4 cup of pumpkin puree. However, that teaspoon of sugar will spike your blood sugar faster and higher than that pumpkin.

[MotherOfGizmo]

If you read the book Dr. A explains the hows and whys!

[cece22]

I eat bread during my induction I got a 2005 2-week induction meal plan of the Atkins Website it includes bread. Here is the link they are coming out with new and updated books they seemed to have changed a lot with this plan from the 1 week induction menu. Also stick with no sugar bread a lot of them are advertised as low-carb but they have added sugars.

2-week 2005

http://atkins.com/Archive/2004/12/28-312957.html

And the 1 -week from I think 1999
http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/14-373858.html[/url]

[ttdriver]

I eat bread during my induction I got a 2005 2-week induction meal plan of the Atkins Website it includes bread. Here is the link they are coming out with new and updated books they seemed to have changed a lot with this plan from the 1 week induction menu.

Yeah, the rules have changed (AND NOT FOR THE BETTER) since our beloved Dr. Atkins died and ANA took over peddling their goods more and more.

Read the book (DANDR 2002) which was written by the doctor himself and avoid anything that says bread is okay during induction. They're lying to you.

Betty

[demons19]

Well, here is a stupid question, Is there such a thing as a bread that does not contain wheat or soy flour?

[Isabeau]

Not such a stupid question. Although I haven't made them, if you search through the recipe tap found at the top of the forum, you'll find recipes for muffins and rolls etc that are induction friendly. Many of our members have tried them and rave about them!

[demons19]

How about this, I found a company that claims to make a net zero bread/bagel where its 7g carb per and all 7g are fiber. Would this be a friendly type bread?

[hulagrl1120]

you need to look at the ingredients not just the carb count...if you cannot find the ingredients on the acceptable foods list then you shouldn't be eating it during induction.

[not2late]

How about this, I found a company that claims to make a net zero bread/bagel where its 7g carb per and all 7g are fiber. Would this be a friendly type bread?

Just adding to what Isabeau already wrote, you might want to run the nutritional info on that bread through a "hidden carb calculator" to make sure they aren't misleading you.

Due to the labelling laws in the US, manufacturers can "round up" or "round down" numbers. There's a very popular brand of flaxmeal that gives the impression it has 0 net carbs per serving, which it doesn't in reality because the manufacturer rounds up the fiber grams.

I'm very skeptical about the low carb breads and baked goods ever since I read a book by one of Dr. Atkins former colleagues, Fred Pescatore, MD. Apparently, the Atkins Center used to run their own analysis on various products to see how many carbs they really contained. Dr. Pescatore wrote about a low carb bagel with 3 net carbs per the manufacturer. When the Atkins Center analysed the bagel, they found it contained over 50 net carbs!

So, check to see if these products contain ingredients suitable for Induction. Furthermore run their nutritional info through a hidden carb calculator (google "hidden carb calculator" and you'll find many to choose from).

And finally, re-read the chapter in DANDR 2002 about food intolerances/food addictions. You might find the information in that chapter very appropriate for your situation.

[Elizellen]

Here is one recipe for a bread without grains or soy products.

http://www.lowcarbrecipes.org/recipe.cgi?action=view_recipe&id=2112&recipe=Microwaved%20Flax%20Bread&category=Breads%20and%20Biscuits

I often have 1/4 to 1/2 of the recipe in one day and it helps me in the 'bathroom' department as well as allowing me the odd piece of toast under a poached egg or a bacon sandwich.

[tickletussler]

No offense... but if you are so keen to eat bread and not let it go until the later stages, then perhaps you may be better on some other diet like South Beach

I know it sounds harsh, but the thing is, if you don't have the mind to start Atkins, then it is a lot harder for you to stick with it. We can all try and convince you Atkins is the best, but if you are not prepared mentally to give Atkins a go, then the battle is already lost.

[G-Mom]

There is another reason to avoid bread during induction and keep it out of your menus for a while: Bread is one of those "trigger" foods for those of us who are sensitive to carbs. For me, eating just one slice of low carb bread opens the floodgate, and I want another slice. Even low carb bread is a "gateway" to our old way of eating.

One of the reasons Induction is so strict is to break us out of our high carb chains. You need to adjust your palate to life without bread straight away, so that when you finally do add it back, you have learned to pull in the reins.

Please, please, follow a clean Induction! If you do not know what that means, there is a FAQ. The ANA (minus Dr. A) wants to make Atkins a program that drifts away from what Dr. A developed. The reason for that? Money, pure and simple.

[2big4mysize]

Dr Atkins discussed the low carb breads his company made in his last interview on Lary King Live in Jan 2003 and he very clearly said they were not for the early part of his plan so if I was going to follow his plan I'd do it his way. He goes on to talk about how the first 14 days are the strictest and in the later stages you can have some of the lower carb foods if you choice but not during the weight loss phases that would be OWL and Induction!

He used to allow the person to select any 20 net carbs they wished using a carb counter but he learned in the 10 yrs he allowed that that we don't make wise choices and we get ourselves into trouble that way.

Read DR ATKINS NEW DIET REVOLUTION 2002 or newer printing and you will understand the whys of this reasoning. 95% of the folk doing his 20 net carbs lose weight easily and the other 5% are the metabolically resistant folk and he has programs for them in the book too.

Happy low carbing.

[demons19]

The reason I ask about bread is quite simple, I do not like any vegatables whatsoever and never will. For me to do this diet by the book, I would be eating zero carbs which probably would not be healthy. I ask about the low carb breads not because I am trying to abuse it but because I would need to get my 20g per day from it.......If this disqualifies me as an Atkins follower, so be it as long as I lose weight. That is the goal here right?

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