3rd Week and going Up.

**spirittalker** · June 11, 2005, 11:30 AM

Any chance TOM is around? I ALWAYS retain water during that time of the month. :anger If this might be the case then no worries it will fall off once TOM passes. Have you started exercising at all. Any change in activity will also cause you to retain water. You may not be eating enough calories. Why don't you put your stats in your siggy so that we can give you better advise based upon your particular situation.

**topolin** · June 11, 2005, 11:57 AM

Well... not unless I cut some parts to make space and produce bleeding :P , sorry I forgot to mention that detail, but I'm male.

What stats in what siggy?
I'm male, 36, statrted with Scarsdale at 265, changed to Atkins at 240, went down to 228 and then up again to 234.5, the goal is to return to 165
I do some Ab excersice in the mornings and some bike on weekends.

I'm eating more calories now than when I was doing Scarsdale, I lost weight with it but I was needing a little more fat and dairy so I decided to switch to this, will jump out in a week or so if I keep gaining weight.

Originally posted by spirittalker

Any chance TOM is around? I ALWAYS retain water during that time of the month. :anger If this might be the case then no worries it will fall off once TOM passes. Have you started exercising at all. Any change in activity will also cause you to retain water. You may not be eating enough calories. Why don't you put your stats in your siggy so that we can give you better advise based upon your particular situation.

**spirittalker** · June 11, 2005, 12:10 PM

You are definitely not eating enough calories. Not eating enough will cause your body to hang onto every ounce. You still could be retaining water as it looks like you have quite a bit of sodium in your diet. Also week three is notorious for stalls and sometimes even some gains. Drink lots of water. At your weight I would recommend at least a gallon a day. I am no expert and I sure one of the mods will be around to help out too but I definitely think you need to eat more.

**Elizellen** · June 11, 2005, 01:10 PM

I agree you are probably not eating enough fats.
We aim for 65% fat/30% protein/5% carbs on induction.

Also the sweetener limit is 3 servings per day - your coke label ought to say how many servings is in what you drink.

And you dont mention water - you ought to be having 64 ounces per day plus 8 extra ounces for every 25 pounds you want to lose of plain water.

**Elizellen** · June 11, 2005, 01:16 PM

Originally posted by topolin

What stats in what siggy?

Most of us list our start weight/current weight/goal weight as well as height, age and gender at the bottom of each post by adding it to our signature.
To do that you need to click on the link at the top of the screen called 'Profile' and scroll down the page to enter the info into your signature block.

**topolin** · June 11, 2005, 04:17 PM

I can't eat more fat!!! I'm not dare to eat the chicken skin, if I do some burguers I like lean ground meat, and although I like butter I try to go easy on it and for beef cuts I roast them very slowly so all the fat melts but don't burns.

I drink about 100 floz of water daily, I think is enough, and for the amounts of Coke I ocassionally drink the software enters all the necesary information (a 2 littee bottle lasts me 2 weeks aproximately).

Will try to keep carbs at 5 grams/day for a week to see what happens. But if the third week is known for stalls and weight gain will wait auntil week 4 or 5 to be certain.

Thnk.

Originally posted by Elizellen

I agree you are probably not eating enough fats.
We aim for 65% fat/30% protein/5% carbs on induction.

Also the sweetener limit is 3 servings per day - your coke label ought to say how many servings is in what you drink.

And you dont mention water - you ought to be having 64 ounces per day plus 8 extra ounces for every 25 pounds you want to lose of plain water.

**spirittalker** · June 11, 2005, 04:27 PM

Can I ask why you cannot eat more fats? Atkins is a high fat diet. Please try to get it through your head that fats are not the bad guys. Trans fats are bad but the rest of the fat is not going to hurt you.

**topolin** · June 11, 2005, 05:38 PM

You can't teach new tricks to an old dog. I don't feel comfortable eating too much fat, is that simply, although I would be able to eat more fat if I could combine it with some carbs (rice, pasta, bread and beans come to my mind) but that is out of discusion in Atkins.

Originally posted by spirittalker

Can I ask why you cannot eat more fats? Atkins is a high fat diet. Please try to get it through your head that fats are not the bad guys. Trans fats are bad but the rest of the fat is not going to hurt you.

**Moochiecat** · June 11, 2005, 06:35 PM

You are doing your own version of lowcarbing...and this is the Extended Induction Forum.
If you scroll down a bit on the main page you'll see the Low Carb other than Atkins forum, and you may get better answers there since this forum is dedicated to Atkins followers.

A note about the carbs...taking yourself down to 5 carbs a day isn't going to help you lose weight. We get our carbs from veggies, and when you are choosing the correct veggies, you won't gain weight.

Have you read Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution, version 2002 (DANDR for short)?
That's what we follow here.

If you choose to follow your own plan, we can't really tell you what you are doing right or wrong....only that we do Atkins and we know for sure it works.

**topolin** · June 11, 2005, 08:10 PM

Dear lady, not only I own that book, I've read also the first edition back from the 70s and anywhere in the book it says that I should feed myself with spoons of butter, and although you don't have to count the calories I will eat a whole cow.

There are allowed foods and I stick to them, shouldn't be a problem if I don't over sturate everything with fat, or if I prefer chicken thigh to pork shoulder. It is not my own version I have a list to choose from and that's what I do. I prepare chicken with cream sauces and rosemary, but instead of using half cup of cream I use 3 tbsp instead, I use 2 slices of bacon for breakfast but some days I prefer ham, what's the problem with that?

I wrote a message here just to know if someone else ever had the problem of gainig weight with Atkins, other lady replied it was something not so uncommon in the third week, and that was fine for me.

Originally posted by Moochiecat

You are doing your own version of lowcarbing...and this is the Extended Induction Forum.
If you scroll down a bit on the main page you'll see the Low Carb other than Atkins forum, and you may get better answers there since this forum is dedicated to Atkins followers.

A note about the carbs...taking yourself down to 5 carbs a day isn't going to help you lose weight. We get our carbs from veggies, and when you are choosing the correct veggies, you won't gain weight.

Have you read Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution, version 2002 (DANDR for short)?
That's what we follow here.

If you choose to follow your own plan, we can't really tell you what you are doing right or wrong....only that we do Atkins and we know for sure it works.

**FightingTheFight** · June 11, 2005, 08:19 PM

Owning is different from reading. You would know that when ever you lower your carbohydrate intake, you must raise your fat intake, otherwise the weight loss with slow and stutter and sometimes stop.

65%fat/30%protein and 5% carbs...thats the best ratio to follow for the most loss..

Happy low-carbing.

**Moochiecat** · June 11, 2005, 08:33 PM

And again, if you post in the 'Low Carb other than Atkins' Forum, you'll be able to talk with folks who have been lowcarbing for quite some time.
This forum is for folks coming off of their first two weeks, and for those continuing in the Induction phase, so they aren't going to have the experience to help you as much as the other forum. :yes

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