So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

[bizzlekitty]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

Have you been tracking your foods in something like Fitday? This is a valuable tool for me to look at what I'm eating (and exercising) and perhaps see some things that might be an issue. Maybe you're not eating enough, or eating too few or too many net carbs, not enough fat, maybe you need to move into OWL. Track as many things as possible, including sauces and things like butter, oil, etc.

Re-read the book section and FAQs here on stalls too. There could be a number of reasons, including known stallers. You might try eliminating some of these and see what happens. Or try moving on to OWL.

This WOE works differently for everyone, and sometimes differently each time we go through the phases.

[Georgiana]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

Since my name was mentioned here and someone PM'ed me about it... I should say that I did notice the thread and even subscribed to it. The only reason why I didn't reply is because very good advice was already being given.

pink, if you could re-post your menu the way J. suggested, with net carbs, it would be very useful. It would also be useful to know how many calories you are eating. To simplify things, you could give us the link to your FitDay.

I see you posted your veggies in cups. Did you start properly measuring them? I know you weren't doing this 10 days ago.

In another thread, you said you had lost 7 lbs on your first two weeks of Induction. So it's clear that Atkins does work for you. For some reason you've gained back weight in the past X days... which could be caused by many things, TOM being one of them. It's not unusual to gain 5-10 lbs around TOM, or to feel bloated. If you track your weight, you will be able to see such patters, so that you know not to be discouraged when it happens.

Not drinking enough water can also cause water retention. How much water are you typically drinking?

You asked a few days ago about moving to OWL. As I wrote in your other thread, I think that would be a good idea.

I am seriously considering quitting Atkins and going back on a protein shake diet. If I would have done protein shakes I would be 15 lbs down by now at least.

We all run into difficulties with our WoE sometimes. But switching to another "diet" every time it happens is not the right solution.

And you can lose weight by drinking only water or cabbage soup. This doesn't make these diets healthy. There is much more to Atkins than weight loss, and losing 15 lbs in a month and a half is not the ultimate goal.

[makmik]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

I have had very good weight loss in the past.

When I started using Diet Sodas with aspartame, I got nothing, nothing, and nothing with my weight loss. I couldn't figure it out untill I found this site and read about the aspartame.

The less weight I lost, the harder I dieted and used Diet Sodas with aspartame to try to get the scale moving, unknowingly sabotaging myself.

So don't underestimate the effects of asperame.
Best to just drink water, otherwise there are many goos splenda drinks, Diet Coke w/splenda - yellow box, Diet Rite, Hansen's, Shasta, Arizona Tea, Pepsi...

[Georgiana]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

So don't underestimate the effects of asperame.

If I recall correctly, the sweetener in Sweet'N Low is saccharin, not aspartame.

[ziggy]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

salmon patties what is that?

when i lost weight i had to be 100% strict and extra careful in other words i could not eat nuts , whipping cream , berries and had to severely limmit the cheese i ate and only put cheese in one of my meals per day

and you gotta give up coffee i know you will have headaces and withdrawals from giveing it up but it will pass and quiting it should help alot

also id give up all artificial sweeteners

also your vitamins maybe you should get some new ones some can make you retain water big time

and watch your cream cheese it might have corn starch in it

and maybe try cutting out all artifical foods because its so hard to tell if there ok or not


also you said you are more hungry? i think that happens when you are eating carbohydrates a pice of fruit doubles my hunger but for you i think its the coffee and artifcal sweetners and maybe cornstarch in cream cheese if yours has that which is not allowed or it could just be from the 10 almonds you said you were eating

it takes time but you need to learn all these foods and trigger foods lots of foods can give cravings and hunger but normally meat eggs and the lowest net carb vegetables do not

be very careful of what you eat i ended up only being able to eat broccoli , meat , eggs and that was about it to beable to 100% lose weight i know you can eat many other foods as well just i didnt have the ability to portion control the medium carb vegetables or liked much at the time of the other low carb vegetables or things to eat


one last thing about your hunger do you have IBS? or were very ill before starting atkins? your body could just be hungry because it needs to eat more to heal itself i had to eat ALOT of atkins food to heal my stomach , IBS it took 6 months for it to fully heal basically saveing my life anyways if you are hungry and you know it is not from caffeine or to many carbs or to much fiber or to much vinegar from all the mayo irritating your stomach then you should eat more use fitday.com try and aim for a % of 65% fat , 30% protein , 5% carbs if you dont eat enough fat that could be another reason why your hungry

and also the reason i mention fiber was cause to much fiber can irritate your stomach and flush nutrients out like from almonds or the stems of broccoli there super high fiber and that would make you more hungry as well i know for me i can only handle a tiny bit of fiber anymore than that will upset my stomach thats why i eat just the top flower part of broccoli but for other people who suffer from constipation they enjoy eating lots of fiber

[chinadoll]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

Pink, you have had tons of good advice but here is the bottom line. Right now you know Atkins can work for you because you did lose on Induction.

But, with the sweeteners- both too much and the wrong kind, nuts, caffeine (I sympathize and have not yet fully given up my java), not enough water, not measuring accurately, blahblahblah it is clear that the diet isn't failing you. You just haven't done it correctly yet so you can't really say it isn't working.

How about thinking all this out and giving it a couple of weeks done correctly and see what happens. Measure now, stay off the scale, and focus on doing this WOE right. I bet the results will surprise you. (Hug) I also think you deserve a whoosh soon.

[pinkfeathers]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

I read and re-read all of your posts. I'm so exhausted mentally and even physically. In fact, today, I weighed even 4 lbs MORE than yesterday.

I would go over my menu but too tired to right now. Maybe tomorrow.

I found out today I have Candida overgrowth (yeast). Don't know how much that has stalled me but at least it tells me something.

Thanks again to all.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

Remember ... a weight bounce can be related to so many things.

Take a deep breath ... tomorrow ... post your menu (with net carbs) and we'll take another look at it.

[SMKelly]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

>>No Sweet 'n Low! That's a no-no for life!>>

Why is it a "no-no" for life?

Dr. Atkins wrote:

"You must determine which artificial sweeteners agree with you, but the following are allowed: sucralose (marketed at Splenda®), saccharin, cyclamate, acesulfame-K. ... Saccharin has been extensively studied, and harmful effects were produced in the lab when fed to rats only in extremely high doses. The Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has removed saccharin from its list of carcinogens, basing its decision upon a thorough review of the medical literature and the National Institute of Science's statement that there is "no clear association between saccharin and human cancer." It can be safely consumed in moderation, meaning no more than three packets a day. Saccharin is marketed as Sweet 'N Low®. We discourage the use of aspartame (marketed as NutraSweet' and Equal®). ... My preference, however, is sucralose (Splenda®), the only sweetener made from sugar. Sucralose is safe, noncaloric and does not raise blood sugar."

Ch. 11

J,

The Reagan Administration forced through the passing of of Nutrasweet, Aspartame, Sweet n' Low, etc., without regard to the health of the American public. These formulations are illegal in many parts of Europe, and it has been medically proven that they basically turn your cellular material into formaldehyde.

So do what you want, but that's why I stay away from it. While it may not cause cancer according to the U.S. literature, it sure made a difference in my father's memory problems, when he was consuming coffee with 3 packets of Equal per day. He'd ask the same questions over and over. And he wasn't senile. Then he went on to Splenda and Stevia and returned to normal.

Take from it what you will.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

SMKelly,

I was only quoting Dr. Atkins. That's all.

I have no agenda on sweeteners ... I barely use Splenda.

That you choose to avoid Nutrasweet, Aspartame, Sweet n' Low, etc. is your choice ... you just can't say that Dr. Atkins made them a "no no for life".

[pinkfeathers]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

Hello again all.

I am going to post what I've eaten the last day to get feedback. I'm as of 2 days ago cutting out all cheese and dairy due to Candida (yeast) which I tested positive for. (Quite positive!)

Day before yesterday:

B - 2 eggs fried in butter (1 carb), 1 coffee with non-dairy cream (1)

L - 2 pure salmon burgers (Salmon that is pressed into a patty, no preservatives) and mayo 1 T. (0 carbs), coffee with non dairy creamer (1 carb)

D - 3 deviled eggs (2 carbs), 1 cup brocolli (4 carbs) in butter & 1/2 can kippers (0)

Walked 45 minutes


I know I didn't have enough veggies this day... I didn't have groceries. Since then I have bought new groceries.


Yesterday:

B - McDonald's 2 McDouble's, just the beef. (0 carbs)

L - Small Probiotics yougurt (I got this from a naturopathic doctor for my yeast overgrowth in my system... 10 carbs)

D - 2 chicken sausages (1 carb) and spinach salad, 1 t. dressing (1 carb), 1 cup spinach and 1 hard boiled egg (3 carbs)

( I under ate on veggies again yesterday due to the probiotic yougurt. I think I'll need to do that every day until the course is done. Or what else are my options?)

No exersize


Thank you for any feedback.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

>>non-dairy cream>>

Ick. Did you read the list of ingredients? This frankenfood isn't really Atkins friendly. Use real cream!

>>mayo 1 T. (0 carbs>>

Mayonnaise has carbs ... the ingredients have carbs. The USDA has 1 Tbs of mayonnaise at 0.54 net carbs.

>>1 cup brocolli (4 carbs)>>

You should count NET carbs.

You also don't mention how much WATER you're drinking. This is important ... critical even, to weight loss.

Ok ... you know you're not eating enough vegetables.

You're also not eating very much food ... I suspect you're under both in net carbs and in calories.

Try for 20 net carbs (not including the yogurt) and most of those net carbs from Induction vegetables (don't limit yourself to cups) ... and drink the 90 ounces of water you need. Try this for two weeks and I bet you'll see results.

Will you do that for yourself?

[pinkfeathers]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

Hi Atkinsgal,

You mentioned to use real cream. Because of Candida it says cut out any dairy products so I'm doing faux-cream in the meantime.

Frankenfoods is not allowed? Yikes.

Oh yes, water! I forgot to list. Thanks for the reminder. I had 3 herbal teas, 5 large glasses of water. I think this is enough... ?

Yes, I need to increase my veggie carbs. I will do that. Thank you, Atkinsgal, for your 'tough love.' I do need to work harder on that. And water, too.

Much appreciated!

>>non-dairy cream>>

Ick. Did you read the list of ingredients? This frankenfood isn't really Atkins friendly. Use real cream!

>>mayo 1 T. (0 carbs>>

Mayonnaise has carbs ... the ingredients have carbs. The USDA has 1 Tbs of mayonnaise at 0.54 net carbs.

>>1 cup brocolli (4 carbs)>>

You should count NET carbs.

You also don't mention how much WATER you're drinking. This is important ... critical even, to weight loss.

Ok ... you know you're not eating enough vegetables.

You're also not eating very much food ... I suspect you're under both in net carbs and in calories.

Try for 20 net carbs (not including the yogurt) and most of those net carbs from Induction vegetables (don't limit yourself to cups) ... and drink the 90 ounces of water you need. Try this for two weeks and I bet you'll see results.

Will you do that for yourself?

[RitaCeleste]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

I did a cleanse once for yeast and it really helped. I had to cut out mushrooms vinegar and cheese for a bit while I was doing it too I think, it was a long time ago. I did loose weight once I was rid of the yeast. So yeast can be a huge deal, and getting rid of it can mean altering what you can eat for a bit. I was checking out the yeast board today and they have some links to antiyeast diets. You might want to pop over and see if you need cut out certain foods for a bit while taking something to get rid of the yeast.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: So discouraged - been crying - not losing on Atkins.

>>5 large glasses of water.>>

How many ounces is that?

>> You mentioned to use real cream. Because of Candida it says cut out any dairy products>>

If you can't use cream, then drink it black. Seriously, fake cream will ruin your arteries! There's most likely trans-fats in it ... there's certainly sugar. It's disgusting stuff. And the sugar in it means you shouldn't be having it because of the Candida.

So there's no good reason to have it.