Seem to be stuck

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I have been on induction since Nov 24. I dropped from 285 to 264 in around 2 weeks. I haven't changed my diet and I can't seem to drop down. My weight is fluctuating between 264-270 for the whole week.

I am not consuming more than 20 net carbs a day, and nothing that is not allowed while on induction. Is this normal? I read the book and understand we can reach plateaus. Do you think thats whats I am going through?

What do I have to do to get back into a steady loss?

[atkinsgal08]

Re: Seem to be stuck

Perhaps your body is telling you it's time to move to OWL so the ONGOING weight loss can start?

>>do I have to do to get back into a steady loss?>>

Weight loss is very rarely "steady".

There's no guarantee that you'll lose every day, every week, or even <gasp> every month.

>> I am not consuming more than 20 net carbs a day>>

If you want to post a typical day's menu, with quantities and net carbs, we can take a look.

Even without seeing that, I would think that moving to the first rung of OWL is in order!

[mission to lose]

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How much water are you drinking?

Are you exercising every day?

[Protip]

Re: Seem to be stuck

Perhaps your body is telling you it's time to move to OWL so the ONGOING weight loss can start?

>>do I have to do to get back into a steady loss?>>

Weight loss is very rarely "steady".

There's no guarantee that you'll lose every day, every week, or even <gasp> every month.

>> I am not consuming more than 20 net carbs a day>>

If you want to post a typical day's menu, with quantities and net carbs, we can take a look.

Even without seeing that, I would think that moving to the first rung of OWL is in order!

I can move to OWL but how will starting to take in more carbs help ? The only reason I ask is that I'm not really having any menu issues, or getting bored with what I currently eat.


Also, I was not aware that I could go as long as a month without losing weight, if thats true that could be very discouraging. I understand it's not a "race" but seeing any progress (regardless of how small) is very motivating.

How much water are you drinking?

Are you exercising every day?

I am drinking a lot of water. Probably 4-5 liters a day. Not much excersize but I ordered a treadmill that is being delivered Saturday so I plan to start daily on that.

[atkinsgal08]

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>>I can move to OWL but how will starting to take in more carbs help>>

It does. Your body needs fuel.

>>I'm not really having any menu issues, or getting bored with what I currently eat.>>

That's not a good reason not to move up the carb ladder.

>>I was not aware that I could go as long as a month without losing weight, if thats true that could be very discouraging.>>

Have you read the chapter in DANDR on plateaus?

I knew someone who has a plateau for 7 months ... and she never gave up.

Atkins isn't "just" about losing weight ... it's more than a "diet".

Stalls get you ready for maintenance ... when you don't have the rewards of the scale to keep you going!

[Protip]

Re: Seem to be stuck

"Secondly, in going beyond the Induction diet and creating OWL, you were permitted to add some carbohydrate items. The new level of diet may have been adequate to achieve some weight loss, but not enough to break through the plateau you are at now. The solution is to return to the induction diet."

That is straight out of the book.

Not to be argumentative but you are asking me if I read the book then offering advice contrary to what it actually says. I notice that sometimes on these threads which is why I tend to get confused. Some of the advice people give out contradicts the book, then they say to "read the book".

I am open to any feedback, thank you.

[Georgiana]

Re: Seem to be stuck

What's the copyright of the book?

[atkinsgal08]

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I very seldom see returning to Induction (which is where you are now) work to break a stall.

In fact, people who do that quite frequently are "abusing" Induction.

And as long as we're quoting, I'll quote you from the 2002 edition:

"You should be aware that everybody hits plateaus-periods during which no weight comes off."

"The same goes for the fact that you'll hit plateaus, lose a little ground or sometimes lose more slowly than you'd like."

"A plateau-which I define as an inexplicable pause in weight loss that cannot be traced back to dietary misdemeanors or lifestyle changes-is not an uncommon occurrence. It usually happens in the later stages of weight loss ..."

I've seen moving to OWL be the "trick" that gets weight loss happening.

I don't think that offering the advice to move up the OWL carb ladder is contrary to Dr. Atkins's advice ... it's how the plan works.

The plan never intended for one to stay on Induction "indefinitely".

Why not try Rung 1 of OWL and see if that doesn't help your situation.

[Protip]

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What's the copyright of the book?

1992, 1999 Robert C. Atkins, M.D.

I very seldom see returning to Induction (which is where you are now) work to break a stall.

In fact, people who do that quite frequently are "abusing" Induction.

And as long as we're quoting, I'll quote you from the 2002 edition:

"You should be aware that everybody hits plateaus-periods during which no weight comes off."

"The same goes for the fact that you'll hit plateaus, lose a little ground or sometimes lose more slowly than you'd like."

"A plateau-which I define as an inexplicable pause in weight loss that cannot be traced back to dietary misdemeanors or lifestyle changes-is not an uncommon occurrence. It usually happens in the later stages of weight loss ..."

I've seen moving to OWL be the "trick" that gets weight loss happening.

I don't think that offering the advice to move up the OWL carb ladder is contrary to Dr. Atkins's advice ... it's how the plan works.

The plan never intended for one to stay on Induction "indefinitely".

Why not try Rung 1 of OWL and see if that doesn't help your situation.

Well I guess a lot of whats in the book is open to interpretation. I will take your suggestion and move to OWL and see how it works for me. Thank you for the input and advice.

[fat2thin]

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I "stalled" a month ago (did induction two weeks only lost like 5 lbs..very discouraging!) ....and just continued on about 25 c's a day (or so)...and began induction again...(ate like a horse Thanksgiving lol).. Went from 185 to 178 in a month (hey it's STILL WEIGHT LOST!)......anyway I'm three days in and the difference this time is awesome! I think before I was eating WAY too much cheese...not taking oils...and not enough water..I wasn't really strictly counting either...(eggs, cheese..etc..didn't count for them, but do now! also too much diet soda!!!) I'm not sure of the rule on soda BUT...I'm ONLY drinking water now and the occasional cup of joe...I believe the biggest difference is the h2o..gonna start exercising too GOOD LUCK!!!! And congrats on dropping 21 lbs on induction!!!

[atkinsgal08]

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>>1992, 1999 Robert C. Atkins, M.D.>>

The book I quoted from is the 2002 edition ... the book that's used at this forum.

I would also suggest getting a new book ... <smile>

[Grant]

Re: Seem to be stuck

I have been on induction since Nov 24. I dropped from 285 to 264 in around 2 weeks. I haven't changed my diet and I can't seem to drop down. My weight is fluctuating between 264-270 for the whole week.

I am not consuming more than 20 net carbs a day, and nothing that is not allowed while on induction. Is this normal? I read the book and understand we can reach plateaus. Do you think thats whats I am going through?

What do I have to do to get back into a steady loss?

I wouldn't call it a plateau yet, though I do know how frustrating that can be. The same thing happened to my wife, good weight loss for a couple week then Post Induction Stall Syndrome. She had a large amount of weight to lose and decided to stay on induction for a while. When this happened she just waited for a bit and after 2-3 weeks she started dropping again.

A lot of people though do report that adding in the extra veggies from the first rung of OWL does start the weight loss again. I wonder if it has either something to do with getting the extra nutrients. I've also though that maybe to the body it's like extra reassurance the even though you have made a lot of changes lately it's still going to get plenty of food so it can stop holding onto the fat.

I dunno, it does seem to work though.

[Protip]

Re: Seem to be stuck

>>1992, 1999 Robert C. Atkins, M.D.>>

The book I quoted from is the 2002 edition ... the book that's used at this forum.

I would also suggest getting a new book ... <smile>

I ordered it this morning!

I wouldn't call it a plateau yet, though I do know how frustrating that can be. The same thing happened to my wife, good weight loss for a couple week then Post Induction Stall Syndrome. She had a large amount of weight to lose and decided to stay on induction for a while. When this happened she just waited for a bit and after 2-3 weeks she started dropping again.

A lot of people though do report that adding in the extra veggies from the first rung of OWL does start the weight loss again. I wonder if it has either something to do with getting the extra nutrients. I've also though that maybe to the body it's like extra reassurance the even though you have made a lot of changes lately it's still going to get plenty of food so it can stop holding onto the fat.

I dunno, it does seem to work though.

My biggest problem is getting enough veggies as it is. See I'm not really a salad eater. So basically I eat the same vegetables as it is and struggle to get 20 carbs from them already. That's another reason why I figured Extended Induction would be more beneficial.

As far as nutrients go, I know its not as good as natural but I do take vitamins everyday. I'm going to push myself with the veggies though and will add the exercise in.

[liv]

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Have you tried some veggie recipes? There are very many ways to eat veggies and I think many of us have not explored them. I have done this 2 years and I still come across exciting new vegetables or new ways of preparing them.

I really like turnip - baked like french fries (these can be eaten with low carb ketchup)

Or cauliflower baked as potato. I make this often

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com/forums/side-dishes/123-cauliflower-potatoes.html

Or yesterday I had cauliflower rice - with curry, ginger and garlic. It is riced cooked cauliflower prepared like fried rice and every bit as delicious.

Many other things out there. I suggest start trying some. Even if you think you may not like them, you may surprise yourself. I like things now that I never ate before - like spaghetti squash (have you tried some with some parmesan - good stuff )

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My biggest problem is getting enough veggies as it is. See I'm not really a salad eater. So basically I eat the same vegetables as it is and struggle to get 20 carbs from them already. That's another reason why I figured Extended Induction would be more beneficial.

Forget the salad idea.

A lot of these veggies can be sprinkled with olive oil and seasoning and baked or broiled in the oven, such as leeks and baby bok choy. Google how to cook veggies.

Try jicama, it can be sliced like apple slices eaten cold, others sprinkle lime and salt. I cut my into tiny slivers, put on a paper towel for awhile do drain the moisture a bit, then I sautee in butter, and sprinkle with cinnamon when they are "almost" burned. YUM!