Opinions sought on Extended Induction

[FuzzeeLogic]

Hi all:

I hit tomorrow's goal of 240 this morning (Day 13 of my induction) and find myself thinking I should repeat Induction (20 Net Carbs) for another two weeks, and lose another 10-15 pounds. I'm ready to integrate daily walks (beginning in the morning), something I haven't been doing (no exercise at all; nada).

On the plus side, I don't miss beer, bacon-cheeseburgers, 1/2-cup servings of chunky blue cheese dressing on my 1-cup salads, 3-4 maple bars/16 oz. glass-of-milk snacks, and all the rest, etc., much to my surprise and elation.

However, on the minus side, yesterday, while I still came under 20 Net Carbs for the day, I rebelled against plain water with lemon and guzzled a 20 oz. bottle of tangerine-flavored seltzer water containing a negligible amount of Sucralose.

And, here's the biggie: After my steak and steamed cauliflower dinner yesterday I was overwhelmed with a graving for an Atkins bar with chocolate in it. So....I broke down and ate the three free samples that arrived Friday in the Atkins 'Welcome' package. (I used to eat an Atkins bar a day as a snack until I replaced it with eggnog shakes last week.)

Having achieved my goal a day ahead of schedule I'm not feeling guilty, but yesterday tells me my body is trying to tell me it needs something (or it's trying to fool me), but I don't know what. I started adequate supplementing when at the beginning of Induction and don't feel concerned I'm shortchanging myself on nutrients of any kind.

Therefore, my logic tells me another two weeks of 20 Net Carbs is a non-sequiter.

Any opinions on extending my Induction? (Thank you.)

[atkinsgal08]

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There's absolutely no guarantee that you would lost another 10-15 pounds on another two weeks of Induction.

You can have bacon-cheeseburgers (minus the bun).

What exactly is in your salad?

Perhaps you're not eating enough?

The closer you are to 20 net carbs the better.

The less said about eating 3 bars in one day the better.

[atkinsgal08]

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Make sure you've read Chapters 12 and 13 in your 2002 DANDR. That will help YOU decide if you're ready for OWL.

Given your eating yesterday, you should consider whether or not your cravings are under control. It's possible that they won't ever be, but getting them under control is one of the purposes of Induction (Induction isn't really about weight loss!).

[Georgiana]

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I moved the thread to the Extended Induction forum.

[liv]

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You need to think this through as you obviously have started to do.

There is a difference between what your body is telling you and what your cravings are telling you. The fact that you cannot (yet ) refrain from eating or drinking things that are sweetened means you are still struggling with that craving.
I suggest removing them from the house and work around legal items. I don't think moving to OWL or staying on induction is going to solve that conundrum.

Now you are losing fast and you are a good candidate for owl - increasing veggies (rung one) is healthy.

[FuzzeeLogic]

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Thank you. I should have done some investigating first.

[FuzzeeLogic]

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All responses to my question are genuinely appreciated; particularly, because they are succinct and void of any "namby-pamby."

I've decided on two more weeks(beginning Tuesday) of 20 Net Carbs. And, during that period, invest the time I devote to learning Atkins in reading about the issues suggested in your answers, not learning how to add items to my food intake.

I'll be checking in daily, but won't be parsing anything on this thread until I can post a follow-up summary on March 8, 2010.

Again, I really appreciate the help I'm getting from this bulletin board.

[2big4mysize]

Re: Opinions sought on Extended Induction

All responses to my question are genuinely appreciated; particularly, because they are succinct and void of any "namby-pamby."

I've decided on two more weeks(beginning Tuesday) of 20 Net Carbs. And, during that period, invest the time I devote to learning Atkins in reading about the issues suggested in your answers, not learning how to add items to my food intake.

I'll be checking in daily, but won't be parsing anything on this thread until I can post a follow-up summary on March 8, 2010.

Again, I really appreciate the help I'm getting from this bulletin board.

COngrats on your great start to morping your body to being an atkins goalie by working your atkins. Walking is a great exerice for the aerobic part but what are you adding as your resistance part of that mandatory atkins exercise? Also any new to your body exercise load on your muscles can cause a temporary scale weight loss stoppage and maybe even an increase. take your measurements so you can see the inches of body fat being shed as you work your atkins and the scales don't validate that hard work.

I think you miss read your cravings yesterday.
First you told us you had for the first time an orange flavored drink with Splenda. then you had a craving for sweets.

that should tell you hey maybe I have an issue with this flavored stuff I drank and need to not have it any more.

Not I need more induction to control stuff. In the OWL chapter DR Atkins tells us if we add a food and that food gives us problems we should remove it from our eating immediately. Unfortunately in induction he doesn't share that information so you were not made aware of it.

Instead of saying you will do 2 more weeks try doing your extended induction as a day to day thing and look in your DANDR and each day ask yourself those questions in chapter 13.

Your answers to them will tell you when your body is telling you to move to OWL. I did extended induction and after several months my answer to that question about wanting other foods was yes so I moved to OWL.

if you are not using something like fitday to track your foods try it and add your supplements as a custom food. then you can eat them as often as you take them and see in the nutrtional reports how you are doing with getting all your vits and minerals as it is very hard in induction to get them all and being defiecent in some can slow your weight loss way down.

[FuzzeeLogic]

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Thank you 2big4mysize for your thoughtful response to my thread post(s). Spontaneously, sometime mid-afternoon today, the thought crossed my mind that the gentle folks in the wings of this bulletin board who are donating their time to make this resource valuable for newbies like me is remarkable. It is motivating to know that you are there, lending a helpful hand to those who seem like they will take it.

To your points: Today ends my 14th day of Induction and, while I've digested the other responses to my thread starter, I'm going to eat tomorrow much like I've been eating over that last two weeks. I'm kind of in a comfortable groove if you know what I mean with the fridge holding quite a bit of deli roast beef, asparagus (for roast beef asparagus wraps), eggs, steak, cheese, etc., to get me through the next few days. I am going to up the amount of lettuce, tomato, celery, onion, sliced pepper, mushroom salad this week because I rolled back eating salad in the second week. Somewhat lost my taste for it.

I did get my tennis shoes on and get out the door this morning, but the effort was a non-starter since tomorrow is the scheduled launch day for initiating aerobic exercise. I'll do 30 minutes a day for about five days and add another 15 starting this coming Saturday. Walking will be capped at 45 minutes a day; the speed will increase over time, however.

No. I'm not forgetting strength training. It's just that I'm going to wait until I hit my 230# goal before I add that time investment to my routine. I'm going to use Bill Phillip's "Body for Life" approach to resistance training with free weights (versa circuit training primarily) because there's a gym in the building I live in and it's well stocked with weight lifting equipment. As you inferred, building muscle adds weight; I'm anticipating it; I'm prepared to factor it in so I don't lose site of what's going on underneath with the fat calorie reduction. (I bought a cloth measuring tape last week too so I can take accurate body measurement.)

On the book side, I have to buy DANDR tomorrow (or Wednesday) and stop reading Atkins for Life, which I mistakenly bought at a used book store a couple of weeks ago. I'll look into the questions in Ch. 13 you're steering me toward.

Finally, as for record keeping...I'm meticulous...which is totally out of character for me since I'm about as far from being an analytical personality type as a cat is far from being a dog. However, there was an Atkins Journal (120 Day) record I bought (too at a used book store) a dozen or more years ago that I retrieved from the box it was in just before I started Induction. After 14 days with it I'm habituated. Also, having received the Carb Counter booklet in the Atkins starter kit last Friday, precise counting, if honest, is easy.

Again, thankk you for sharing your thoughts with me. I'll stay in touch.

[2big4mysize]

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I love the BFL lifting system as that was my resistance training part of my atkins. I hop eyou llike it too.

The AFL is a vergy good book. I love the actual recomendations ofr how often to have a food based on its AGR within the OWL rungs. they also reordered the rungs with the elimination of the alcohol rung which is the 5th one in DANDR and the lumping of all the veggies in the first rung both the induction veggies which are rung one in DANDR and the root veggies which are rung 8 in DANDR.