How many carbs will knock you out of ketosis?

[cajunthunder]

After yesterdays Pizza Hut misadventure , I really thought my carb intake for the day (guesstimate of 70 net grams) would have knocked me out of ketosis, but it didn't.

I don't plan on eating that many carbs in a day, again, for a long time, but it got me to wondering how many carbs it takes to knock you out of ketosis, and would that be affected by the same things that effect your CCLL? Or is the number kind of set in stone?

[not2late]

Re: How many carbs will knock you out of ketosis?

After yesterdays Pizza Hut misadventure , I really thought my carb intake for the day (guesstimate of 70 net grams) would have knocked me out of ketosis, but it didn't.

I don't plan on eating that many carbs in a day, again, for a long time, but it got me to wondering how many carbs it takes to knock you out of ketosis, and would that be affected by the same things that effect your CCLL? Or is the number kind of set in stone?

It depends on your CCLL. The CCLL is your individual critical carbohydrate losing level. So if your CCLL is 50, you know that eating over 50 net carbs will knock you out of ketosis.

Your CCLL can change. If you are exercising more and have more muscle mass than when you first found the CCLL, it can possibly increase. That happened with me. When I first found my CCLL it was about 30. 7 months later, I was exercising more and not as fat as I was. I found that I would be really fatigued during the day and had no energy. After re-reading the book, I decided to up my carbs by 5 to see what would happen--I continued to lose weight and I wasn't quite as tired. I upped them by 5 until I found my new CCLL.

Remember too, that ketosis just means that you are producing ketone bodies, which means you are breaking down fat. It doesn't tell you if that fat is from the fat you have eaten or the fat on your thighs. There's a transcript of an old Atkins Center chat online. In it the Atkins Center nutritionist related a story of a woman who wasn't losing weight but was in ketosis---she was eating a stick of butter every night for dessert.

[cajunthunder]

Re: How many carbs will knock you out of ketosis?

It depends on your CCLL. The CCLL is your individual critical carbohydrate losing level. So if your CCLL is 50, you know that eating over 50 net carbs will knock you out of ketosis.

Okey dokey - I don't know why I was thinking there was some carb level that kind of applied to everyone.

Your CCLL can change. If you are exercising more and have more muscle mass than when you first found the CCLL, it can possibly increase. That happened with me. When I first found my CCLL it was about 30. 7 months later, I was exercising more and not as fat as I was. I found that I would be really fatigued during the day and had no energy. After re-reading the book, I decided to up my carbs by 5 to see what would happen--I continued to lose weight and I wasn't quite as tired. I upped them by 5 until I found my new CCLL.

I haven't found mine yet and figured I would find it when I'm a little closer to goal. Right now I adjust and readjust based on the kinds of things you posted above.

Remember too, that ketosis just means that you are producing ketone bodies, which means you are breaking down fat. It doesn't tell you if that fat is from the fat you have eaten or the fat on your thighs. There's a transcript of an old Atkins Center chat online. In it the Atkins Center nutritionist related a story of a woman who wasn't losing weight but was in ketosis---she was eating a stick of butter every night for dessert.

I checked it at various times, including first thing in the morning, which was 12 or more hours after I had last eaten, and before I drank any water/exercised, etc.... and still got a strong positive... so I'm guessing I wasn't burning food fat, ya think? - hoping I was burning butt fat!

And if I was burning body fat, then maybe my CCLL is relatively high?

Thanks Megs!

[not2late]

Re: How many carbs will knock you out of ketosis?

The CCLL is very individual. The Magic 20 for Induction was picked because that was the point when most people would be in ketosis. But for some folks, they start showing signs of ketosis when they drop their carbs below 100 grams daily.

I would caution about waiting to find your CCLL until closer to goal. See, the CCLL is an important number because it also helps you to find the CCML--Critical Carbohydrate Maintaince Level or the number of carbs you have to stay below in order to not gain weight.

To see an estimate of your CCLL, check your 14 day Induction results against the Metabolic Resistant charts in Chapter 13.

[apollo]

Re: How many carbs will knock you out of ketosis?

i think part of dr atkins spirit flew into not2lates body when he passed away (laughs) she pretty much said what i was going to say but with alot more details , finding your CCLL is important , but of course it takes a little while

just dont get yourself discouraged , try to avoid the cheat days even though we all know how hard that is to do

[2big4mysize]

Re: How many carbs will knock you out of ketosis?

when you overeat your carbs the ketones already in your body don't vanish they keep circulating in your blood and are in your tissues waiting to be moved out and used as energy elsewhere or burned in that cell for energy too. So many folk mistakenly see the ketones in thier urine after they cheat and say wow I ate ______ and it didn't knock me out of ketosis so I can have some of that again when in fact by Dr Atkins definition of ketosis as the burning of fats for fuel it did! After your body finished burning off the carbs you ingested and storing the ones it couldn't burn as fats and glycogen you then switched back to fat burning with more fat to lose. Remember every human being not hooked up to an IV feeding line is in ketosis every night while they are sleeping as the carbs and sugars injested during dinner are long gone and the body turns to those fats to keep you alive until breakfast time.

Yep finding your CCLL is i a very individual number and it is now called ACE on the Atkins site so when you see those folk with an ACE of 35 or 70 that is their number of net carbs for losing. Exercise vigorously can give you a huge boost in the number of net carbs your body can handle and still lose weight. Mine will change by over 65 net carbs if I'm working out or not going to the gym and just treadmilling.



Happy low carbing.