Still Losing and Going Up Another Rung!

[sadie147]

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That's awesome news!!!!!! I made the mistake of becoming too afraid to eat at my ccll and stopped at way too low of a number for fear of losing when i was doing owl. though I did add all the food groups i kept my carbs too low. I ended up doing it over and discovering my maintenance level is actually quite high. I now regret it because I had no idea what i was missing..it's great that you are discovering this now...

I also recently discovered sf ww hamburger buns..makes life soo much easier!!!

Congrats!!!

[Elizellen]

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Good going, Don
It looks as if you are 'gonnab' like one of our old members Loonatika who posted once that she needed help in adding more carbs, as she was at 100 net carbs and worried about still losing!!

[gonnabskinny]

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After not losing last week for the first time in like forever, I still stepped up to 65 net carbs last week, figuring that it was just an isolated occurance and I was correct. Last week I had a 4 lbs loss to keep me on my 2 lbs per week pace! Who would think that increasing carbs would actually allow you to lose more weight.

Last week I averaged about 2100 calories per day, and the % fat/protein/carb calorie ratios were 45/31/24.

I have now lost 123 lbs since 8/14/2006, and 94 of that has been since I REALLY got serious the first of the year. I have 33 more pounds to go to hit goal. In 23 more pounds I will be going on Pre-Maintenance. I have been adding 5 carbs every three weeks and I am up on Rung 9. Should I step it up at a faster rate since I am rapidly approaching Pre-Maintenance and still think that I am pretty far away from finding my CCLL???

[*Emma*]

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i dont see any harm in you changing it to every 2 weeks that you add more carbs! youre doing amazing btw, a real inspiration to everyone!

wahhh i miss loona!

[jimmyolsenblues]

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I have a math question, if you are eating 2100 calories and the % fat/protein/carb calorie ratios were 45/31/24.
So .24 * 2100 = .24*2100 = 504 calories from carbs.
there are 4.1 Calories in one gram of carbs.
So 504/4.1 = 122.9 grams of carbs a day.
That seems like a lot of carbs for an atkins OWL.

[not2late]

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I have a math question, if you are eating 2100 calories and the % fat/protein/carb calorie ratios were 45/31/24.
So .24 * 2100 = .24*2100 = 504 calories from carbs.
there are 4.1 Calories in one gram of carbs.
So 504/4.1 = 122.9 grams of carbs a day.
That seems like a lot of carbs for an atkins OWL.

Gonnabeskinny, should have a higher fat% during her OWL, as the fat % shouldn't go below 50% during OWL or Pre-Maintenance. During Maintenance it's about 40-50% depending on the person's metabolism.

As for the 122.9 grams carbs, you have to subtract the fiber. Gonnabe says that she has about 65 net carbs, so she eats about 60 grams of fiber. We've had members with CCLLs of over 100 net carbs daily. So it's possible to have a CCLL that high. Of course, it's dependent on various factors, like age, sex, exercise amount, etc. But it's possible.

[mitzimarie]

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After not losing last week for the first time in like forever, I still stepped up to 65 net carbs last week, figuring that it was just an isolated occurance and I was correct. Last week I had a 4 lbs loss to keep me on my 2 lbs per week pace! Who would think that increasing carbs would actually allow you to lose more weight.

Damn, Don! Four pounds this week?! You are something, else, man! Wow, you are working the heck out of Atkins... very well done. I'm with Emma - you could probably start adding carbs every 2 weeks instead of every 3 weeks.

I wasn't aware of what Megs spoke of... that fat percentage shouldn't go below 50% during OWL or Pre-Maintenance. Of course, I sooooo don't need to worry about that... my CCLL is just above 45 net carbs.

I'm not sure how that would work out... how does someone like you add more carbs to find your CCLL without falling below 50% on Fat? (the answer may be evident, but I suck at math ) What 'ya gonna do?

[not2late]

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According to the book, the fat decreases slightly from Induction. During Induction, it was about 65%. So a "slight" decrease isn't down to 40%.

It goes back to the math in the sticky at the top of the forum about fat. As you add carbs, your fat percentage will decrease slightly. And you have to remember that you need to eat a combination of food---fats, proteins and carbs. So you shouldn't be eating those berries and melons by themselves. Nor should you be eating that pineapple or pear by itself. Same goes for whatever legumes, grains and starchy vegetables you add.

Also, eat the full fat products. If you eat low fat cottage cheese or yogurt, it ain't gonna help you in the long run because those low fat products have added carbs to make up for the fat lost during the processing. I know folks like to eat the lower fat dairy during OWL because it cuts the calories, but the calories they are ultimately cutting are the fat calories. So they are eating low fat, with a relatively higher carb food, like blueberries: there's only so much you can get away with doing that before you start eating a low fat, low carb version of Atkins.

[gonnabskinny]

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OK, let me clarify a couple of things. First off, I may be losing lots of weight but I did not have a sex change operation! I am still a guy! LOL

Second, the 4.1 doesn't take into consideration the carbs from alchohol which are calculated at a higher caloric rate. I do have about a 7 oz glass of wine a few times during the week, which is probably why my totals come out a little higher. Also, I have been taking the percent each day and then adding them together for the week and averaging that, which is not completely accurate, but does come out pretty close.

So here is a more accurate way to look at it.

Total calories per week 14296 or an average of 2042.28 per day

Total fat grams were 736 or an average of 105.14 per day
736 fat grams X 9 = 6624 calories/14296 calories = 46.33%

Total protein grams were 1102 or an average of 157.42 per day
1102 protein grams X 4 = 4408 calories/14296 = 30.83%

Therefore the remaining calories (14296-fat calories of 6624-protein calories of 4408 = 3264) would all be from carbs.
3264/14296 = 22.83%

So my percentages were off a little bit, but still pretty close. It is the higher calories in the wine that while pushing my carb % higher also conversely effects the fat % and protein %. If I cut out the wine then my carb percentages will go down and my fat percentages will go back up as well as my protein percentage. That is where the difference is. If I took away the 794 calories from the 5.5 glasses (7 oz) of wine that only accounted for 16 of the carbs and put those carbs in say a couple of Wasa crackers at 16 net carbs and 90 calories total. Then the total would look like this.

Instead of 14296 my total caloric intake would have been 13592.
Instead of 3264 calories from carbs it would be 2560.
2560 Carb calories/13592 would have been 18.83%
6624 Fat calories/13592 would have been 48.74%
4408 Protein calories/13592 would have been 32.43%

I am pretty sure my math is correct and this is probably as clear as mud, but there it is.

[not2late]

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OK, let me clarify a couple of things. First off, I may be losing lots of weight but I did not have a sex change operation! I am still a guy! LOL
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Whooops! But look at it this way....at least you didn't have to pay for the surgery and go through a long recovery period.

[gonnabskinny]

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Not to mention the hassles with the insurance company and all the forms I would have to file changing my legal name from Don to Donna!!!

OK, I did a simple test on my calorie counter program. My protein, I pretty well have figured out. 2000 calorie diet = 150 grams of protein to stay at 30%. If all my 65 net carbs are from something other than alchohol, then keeping my fat grams at 110 or above will put me at 50% or higher on my fat %. Last week it was the lowest ever at 105 grams average so I need to work on that. So 110 is the magical number for me to shoot for.

[gonnabskinny]

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Even though I actually went up about 1/2 lb. last week, I am still going to jump up to 70 net carbs. I figured that today's weigh in was just one of those fluctuation things and that next week, the scale will move downward again. I lost four the week before and the week before that I showed no loss either. So, I am just going to continue on. I hope I am doing the right thing!

[LooseShoes]

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Have you checked to see if you're losing inches?

Sounds like you have a good plan and know what you're doing--Keep it up!

[*Emma*]

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I would personally stop where you are for another week before adding more carbs... see if you get a loss from it... but of course, its your choice!

[gonnabskinny]

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Have you checked to see if you're losing inches?

Sounds like you have a good plan and know what you're doing--Keep it up!

I have been loosing a little in inches. This mostly started when I went of vacation. I had been losing 2 lbs each and every week. When I went on vacation, I had days that I ate too little and days I ate too much. I still lost a lb each week. Then I got back and had no weight loss, raised my carbs to 65 the following week and lost 4 lbs., followed by 1/2 lb. gain this week.

Emma, my instinct tells me to do exactly that. However, since it has happened before, I think this week I will just do less wine, more water, and keep my calories no more than 2100 on any given day. I am within 23 lbs of going on pre-maintenance and need to find my CCLL beforehand, so I am still going to go to 70 and see what happens. If this week, I stay the same or God forbid, actually gain, then I will back it down. I still think my CCLL is much higher though and that this was just an abberation. I guess I will find out for sure.