OWL Rung 4

[WetBanana]

So today was payday and I got raspberries. So I know once every other day - 5 carbs per time, but how many raspberries can I eat with 5 carbs? And frick I forget is it 5 carbs in total or 5 NET carbs??

Please help!!

I'll update my stuff when I get the chance but eating my steak right now, lol. I WANT RASPBERRIES!!!!

***ETA - Just updated my profile info.

[mizski]

Re: OWL Rung 4

Serving size for raspberries (and blueberries) is 1/4 cup according to DANDR p. 174. I never thought of it before (just went by this serving size) but this is 5g total carbs (not net). I think I need to read more about the power of five again.

Enjoy your raspberries.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: OWL Rung 4

It's ALWAYS net carbs!

[Georgiana]

Re: OWL Rung 4

how many raspberries can I eat with 5 carbs?

You can look up in the USDA database how many raspberries (or any other berries) make up 5 net carbs: http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/.

My suggestion would be to go by weight (or, at least, by volume), rather than number of berries. Especially when you eat something like strawberries, for example.

[WetBanana]

Re: OWL Rung 4

Interesting!!

When I looked up the nutritional info on the internet before I posted, it was saying 100 grams of raspberries was 12 carbs, but had 7 grams of fibre - so obviously equaled 5 net carbs...but I thought I did remember the whole 1/4 cup thing. When I read about 1 cup of raspberries it was only 123 grams. So you can see my conundrum!!

Anyway - I'll just stick with the 1/4 cup, I'm sure once I plug it into fitday it'll all work out well.

Thanks so much!! I AM SO EXCITED!!!!

[mizski]

Re: OWL Rung 4

It's ALWAYS net carbs!

That's what I thought so what's up with the Power of Five in DANDR (p. 174) with the serving sizes that are 5g total carbs? I've been using the serving sizes on that page for my OWL foods.

[WetBanana]

Re: OWL Rung 4

Decadence.

Pure bliss.

I love feeling that way when I re-introduce foods to my diet.

I kept to the 1/4 cup - it was plenty anyway. I had 14 raspberries. I just wanted it as a bedtime snack because I was SOOO desperate to have them. They don't last long in the fridge, so I'm going to have to share since I can't have any today, lol.

Simple perfection.

[Georgiana]

Re: OWL Rung 4

That's what I thought so what's up with the Power of Five in DANDR (p. 174) with the serving sizes that are 5g total carbs?

Copy pasted from DANDR 1992...

[mizski]

Re: Power of Five p.174

Copy pasted from DANDR 1992...

What does that mean?

[Georgiana]

Re: Power of Five p.174

What does that mean?

What is the part you find confusing? (Other than the list. )

[mizski]

Re: Power of Five p.174

What is the part you find confusing? (Other than the list. )

OK, I've been using that list of power of five foods as portion sizes for things like berries. 1/4 cup of raspberries is 5g total carbs but less in net carbs. I've been using these portions as I figured the power of five was also teaching portion control. Is that power of five page a carryover from an old edition of Atkins that made it into DANDR erroneously? And do we go by that or just count net carbs for each item (which would be larger portions in many cases)?

Now I'm really confusing myself.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: OWL Rung 4

I think the portion sizes on the Power of Five don't equate to 5 net carb exactly because it's another "visualization".

If you're visualizing what you're eating, it's easier to visualize 1/4 cup of raspberries than it is to visualize 5 net carbs worth.

Remember the first paragraph of the Power of Five says, "These portions contain roughly 5 grams of carbohydrates."

So ... it was never exact!

For example, one ounce of macadamias is never going to equal 5 [net] carbs ... but a serving (one ounce) is a serving. So, I would use the remaining net carbs on vegetables, for example.

Since on OWL you're increasing your net carbs as a total (20 net to 25 net on the first rung of OWL, for example), you can use any "leftover" of those extra 5 net carbs for something from a lower rung.

[atkinsgal08]

Re: OWL Rung 4

>>Is that power of five page a carryover from an old edition of Atkins that made it into DANDR erroneously?>>

No ... the 1999 version did not have an OWL Carb Ladder.

[Georgiana]

Re: OWL Rung 4

No ... the 1999 version did not have an OWL Carb Ladder.

Oops! Thanks for clarifying this.

I should have said that in DANDR 1992 one was counting total carbs, so to add back 5 net carbs of <insert food>, the amounts would have been close to those listed in "The Power of Five".