Zero carb OWL friendly snacks?

[CalicoPrairie]

Is there a list of these somewhere? If not, can this be it? I could really use some ideas from all you seasoned Atkinsers. TIA!

[JulieB]

Re: Zero carb OWL friendly snacks?

All of the OWL Rungs add foods with carbs...the only foods that don't have any carbs are fat & meat - which are induction-friendly. So OWL friendly carb-free snacks are the same as induction-friendly carb-free snacks. sorry

[CalicoPrairie]

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Thanks JulieB, that makes sense. Then is there a list for just zero carb snacks around here somewhere? I'm looking for creative ideas that I haven't thought of. TIA!

[atkinsgal08]

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Why are you looking for "zero carb" snacks?

[CalicoPrairie]

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I keep going a little over for some reason while I'm seeking to balance my carbs/fiber/veggie carbs. Most of what I eat are veggies, but I'm wanting to plan my snacks throughout the day while still getting the appropriate number of veggie net carbs.

[not2late]

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I keep going a little over for some reason while I'm seeking to balance my carbs/fiber/veggie carbs. Most of what I eat are veggies, but I'm wanting to plan my snacks throughout the day while still getting the appropriate number of veggie net carbs.

You only eat snacks if you are hungry between meals. You don't eat them to satisfy some kind of calorie requirement or percentages. That's the wrong way to do Atkins because it only encourages the bad habit of overeating or eating out of boredom or eating 'just because'. You eat to satisfy your hunger, not a number.

At this point in your OWL, you should be eating the 3 cups of Induction veggies PLUS 5 net carbs of any Induction veggie. In other words, whatever number of veggie carbs you were eating during Induction plus 5 additional ones.

Also, the "percentages" are only valid for Induction because that is the menu that was analyzed for those "percentages"---OWL and Pre-Maintenance menues were not analyzed. So it's a mistake to continue eating the 65/30/5 Induction ratio during your OWL because as you progress through OWL and Pre-Maintenance, your fat percent decreases as your carbs percent increases. For you to maintain the Induction percentages throughout would mean eating more fat and more protein, which may possibly derail your weight loss.

[CalicoPrairie]

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You only eat snacks if you are hungry between meals. You don't eat them to satisfy some kind of calorie requirement or percentages. That's the wrong way to do Atkins because it only encourages the bad habit of overeating or eating out of boredom or eating 'just because'. You eat to satisfy your hunger, not a number.

I think you misunderstood me. I'm not planning snacks to satisfy my calories, I'm planning them for in case I'm hungry in between my meals. What I'm counting/balancing is my veggie carbs against my net carbs, making sure I'm getting half/most of my net carbs from veggies. I want to have a back up plan for when/if I get hungry in between without going over my allotted amount of carbs for the day, that's all.

At this point in your OWL, you should be eating the 3 cups of Induction veggies PLUS 5 net carbs of any Induction veggie. In other words, whatever number of veggie carbs you were eating during Induction plus 5 additional ones.

Right--doing this.

Also, the "percentages" are only valid for Induction because that is the menu that was analyzed for those "percentages"---OWL and Pre-Maintenance menues were not analyzed. So it's a mistake to continue eating the 65/30/5 Induction ratio during your OWL because as you progress through OWL and Pre-Maintenance, your fat percent decreases as your carbs percent increases. For you to maintain the Induction percentages throughout would mean eating more fat and more protein, which may possibly derail your weight loss.

Again, I haven't been trying to maintain those numbers, but thanks for the information. I did not realize this and will go back and re-read the chapter in DANDR 2002.

[not2late]

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I think you misunderstood me. I'm not planning snacks to satisfy my calories, I'm planning them for in case I'm hungry in between my meals.

Okay, I misunderstood.

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What I'm counting/balancing is my veggie carbs against my net carbs, making sure I'm getting half/most of my net carbs from veggies.[/quote]

The "most of your carbs from veg" thing applies strictly to Induction phase. It might apply to Rung 1 OWL, but beyond Rung 1, it will be very hard mathematically to sustain that "most of your carbs from veg".

The 3 cups of Induction veg remains your minimum veggie intake throughout your OWL. So let's say you were eating 15 net carbs from the 3 cups of veg during Induction, on OWL you add 5 net carbs of those veg to make a total of 20. If you have a CCLL of 40, there is no way mathematically that 20 net veggie net carbs will be "most" of your 40 total net carbs. 20 will be exactly 1/2 of your 40 CCLL.

Since the average CCLL is 40-60, it is mathematically impossible that the average Atkineer will be able to sustain a "most of your carbs from veggies" if they have a CCLL of 40 or higher.

I want to have a back up plan for when/if I get hungry in between without going over my allotted amount of carbs for the day, that's all.

Then set aside some of your carbs for a snack. If you are eating at a 25 net carb OWL level, it by no means you are to get all of your carbs from the veg (20 of the Induction veg plus 5 OWL Rung 1 nets). Eggs have carbs, heavy cream has carbs, cheese has carbs, etc. Those foods are perfectly legal to eat during Atkins. So set aside 1 or 2 ounces of cheese (Dr. Atkins said we are to count each ounce of Induction cheese as 1 net carb), for a snack or set aside 1 or 2 egg carbs. IF you don't eat the cheese or egg snack, you can incorporate them into your meal (1 or 2 ounces of a creamy cheese, like Brie or camembert, for "dessert" or 1 ounce of cheese melted over your veg.)

[liv]

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I would use eggs, cheese (not quite zero carb but OK) Meat leftovers are great. And if you can make some home made jerky it would work well. Once on OWL 3 you can add nuts.

[CalicoPrairie]

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The "most of your carbs from veg" thing applies strictly to Induction phase. It might apply to Rung 1 OWL, but beyond Rung 1, it will be very hard mathematically to sustain that "most of your carbs from veg".

The 3 cups of Induction veg remains your minimum veggie intake throughout your OWL. So let's say you were eating 15 net carbs from the 3 cups of veg during Induction, on OWL you add 5 net carbs of those veg to make a total of 20. If you have a CCLL of 40, there is no way mathematically that 20 net veggie net carbs will be "most" of your 40 total net carbs. 20 will be exactly 1/2 of your 40 CCLL.

Since the average CCLL is 40-60, it is mathematically impossible that the average Atkineer will be able to sustain a "most of your carbs from veggies" if they have a CCLL of 40 or higher.

Ok you are my hero right about now, lol. This has been a hard thing for me. I go up to OWL rung 2 tomorrow, so I will definitely be done with that part of the counting. Thank you so much for explaining this.

Then set aside some of your carbs for a snack. If you are eating at a 25 net carb OWL level, it by no means you are to get all of your carbs from the veg (20 of the Induction veg plus 5 OWL Rung 1 nets). Eggs have carbs, heavy cream has carbs, cheese has carbs, etc. Those foods are perfectly legal to eat during Atkins. So set aside 1 or 2 ounces of cheese (Dr. Atkins said we are to count each ounce of Induction cheese as 1 net carb), for a snack or set aside 1 or 2 egg carbs. IF you don't eat the cheese or egg snack, you can incorporate them into your meal (1 or 2 ounces of a creamy cheese, like Brie or camembert, for "dessert" or 1 ounce of cheese melted over your veg.)

Yay! Thank you so much. I was starting to feel burdened and a little depressed that I was having so much trouble with this. Thank you thank you thank you!

[CalicoPrairie]

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I would use eggs, cheese (not quite zero carb but OK) Meat leftovers are great. And if you can make some home made jerky it would work well. Once on OWL 3 you can add nuts.

Thanks Liv. This is what I was thinking of doing today--putting this type of stuff in the fridge, already divided into low to no carb portions. Great ideas!

[cleochatra]

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Oopsie rolls aren't exactly zero carbs, but they're pretty close! Same with meg's flax crackers. Pretty close. I am about bready and crunchy. Also if you make, say, your cauliflower into these Doritos chips, you can satisfy veggie servings with a snack! Hamburger jerky is one of my must-haves in the kitchen, too. That one is zero carb. (Recipes at the links)

[Browneyedmelly]

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Cleo I have to say you absolutely rock!!! I have made the Doritos Chips several time...and they are so scrumptious...I was lucky to find that nacho seasoning mix...and I am going to try the tator tots next....

[CalicoPrairie]

Re: Zero carb OWL friendly snacks?

Oopsie rolls aren't exactly zero carbs, but they're pretty close! Same with meg's flax crackers. Pretty close. I am about bready and crunchy. Also if you make, say, your cauliflower into these Doritos chips, you can satisfy veggie servings with a snack! Hamburger jerky is one of my must-haves in the kitchen, too. That one is zero carb. (Recipes at the links)

Thanks Cleo! This is exactly what I was looking for--creative!

Love your blog and recipe site, btw, girl. I agree with the previous poster, you do rock!