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    This was posted on another LC forum I frequent, but it's great information and I wanted to be sure that ADBBers all got to take a gander at this as well. (Thanks JuliaL at you-know-where )

    What Is the Impact of the Sugar Alcohols?
    Sugar Alcohols — technically called polyols — are carbohydrates that we do not completely absorb. Of the eight sugar alcohols tested for their glycemic index, the most common ones are sorbitol, xylitol, mannitol, and maltitol.

    If the sugar alcohols had no impact on our blood glucose, they would have a glycemic index of zero. With the December 2003 publication of Geoffrey Livesey’s amazing review of sugar alcohols, we now know a lot more about them than ever before. His article, “Health potential of polyols as sugar replacers, with emphasis on low glycemic properties,”; is in Nutrition Research Reviews 2003;16:163-91.

    Only two of the sugar alcohols have a GI of zero, according to Livesey’s research. These are mannitol and erythritol. Several others have a very low GI, but two maltitol syrups have a GI greater than 50. This is a higher GI value than that of spaghetti, orange juice, or carrots.

    Various articles about blood glucose control have incorrectly reported energy values of polyols as about 4 calories per gram and more recently on the American Diabetes Association website as about 2 calories per gram. In fact, Livesey reports that the energy values of sugar alcohols vary from 0.2 to 3.



    Glycemic Index and Energy Values of Polyols Polyol GI (glucose=100) Calories/g
    Maltitol syrup (intermediate) 53 3
    Maltitol syrup (regular) 52 3
    Maltitol syrup (high) 48 3
    Polyglycitol (hydrogenated starch hydrolysate) 39 2.8
    Maltitol syrup (high-polymer) 36 3
    Maltitol 36 2.7
    Xylitol 13 3
    Isomalt 9 2.1
    Sorbitol 9 2.5
    Lactitol 6 2
    Erythritol 0 0.2
    Mannitol 0 1.5
    Source: Livesey, op. cit., pp. 179, 180.
    Not all the low-carb gurus are on the polyol bandwagon. Dr. Richard K. Bernstein, a noted endocrinologist who wrote Dr. Bernstein’s Diabetes Solution (Boston, Little, Brown, revised edition 2003) says on page 139 that, “Some [sugars], such as sorbitol…, will raise blood sugar more slowly than glucose but still too much and too rapidly to prevent a postprandial blood sugar rise in people with diabetes.”

    Confirmation of Dr. Bernstein’s position comes from a correspondent, Mary Lu Connolly. She wrote me in January that she has type 1 diabetes and has tried to reduce her carb intake by purchasing the low-carb foods now available. “What I have found is that these foods (especially breakfast bars) cause major rises in my blood sugars hours after eating. Can you explain what is happening?”

    At the time she wrote I couldn’t explain it. Now, it’s clear that the culprit is probably maltitol or maltitol syrup. For example, Atkins Nutritionals Peanut Butter Cups have 11 grams of maltitol per serving. The “Net Akins Count” is 2 grams. Atkins Praline Sauce Duet has more maltitol syrup than anything else — 19 grams per serving. The net carbs count is 2. Or you could buy the Atkins Endulge Caramel Nut Chew Box, advertised as having 2 grams net carbs per serving. Yet a serving has 15 grams of maltitol.

    Each of these examples come from the Atkins.com. None of them indicate that the glycemic index of one of their primary ingredients — maltitol — is higher than that of pearled barley or kidney beans.

    Sugar alcohols do vary considerably in their glycemic indexes. It’s complicated, but they aren’t all created equal.

    What Is the Impact of Glycerin?
    Glycerin (or glycerine) is a liquid byproduct of making soap. It is wonderfully versatile and has been used as a solvent, antifreeze, plasticizer, drug medium, and in the manufacture of soaps, cosmetics, inks, lubricants, and dynamite. Now it is also used as a sweetener.

    Atkins Nutritionals says that glycerine is another carbohydrate that has “a minimal impact on blood sugar.” Dr. Thomas Wolever, professor and acting chair of the department of nutritional sciences at the University of Toronto, confirms this in personal correspondence with me. He also heads a company, Glycaemic Index Testing Inc., which has ascertained the GI value of hundreds of foods.

    “We did a study on glycerine at GI Testing, but the data don’t belong to me so I cannot publish it — except it was published in abstract form — and up to 75g glycerine had a negligible effect on blood glucose and insulin in normal subjects.’ He cites his article, “Oral glycerine has a negligible effect on plasma glucose and insulin in normal subjects” in Diabetes 2002;51(Supplement 2):A602. Some others believe, however, that it might have a greater impact on people with type 2 diabetes who have overactive livers.

    What Is the Impact of Polydextrose?
    Polydextrose is another carbohydrate. It is used primarily as a bulking agent for the preparation of calorie-reduced foods. Atkins Nutritionals says that polydextrose has “a minimal impact on blood sugar.”

    Again, Dr. Wolever can confirm the Atkins claim. ”I don’t think polydextrose is available in the small intestine at all,” Dr. Wolever tells me. “If that is so, it has no effect on blood glucose.”

    A recent study lead by Zhong Jie of Rui Jin Hospital in Shanghai, “Studies on the effects of polydextrose intake on physiologic functions in Chinese people,” confirms Dr. Wolever’s belief. This study, reported in the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition, Vol. 72, No. 6, 1503-1509, December 2000, concluded that “polydextrose had no significant effect on blood biochemistry indexes” include the glycemic index. Their study confirmed “that polydextrose is nonglycemic.”

    Conclusion?
    Dr. Atkins and the vendors of low-carb products are correct that not only fiber but also glycerin and polydextrose have little or no effect on blood glucose. The story with sugar alcohols, however, is different. One of the most commonly used sugar alcohols, maltitol and its syrups, does have a considerable effect on blood glucose. Two sugar alcohols, erythritol and mannitol, have no effect, and four others have some effect.


    You need to check which sugar alcohols are used in any low-carb products you buy. Just like different carbohydrates affect blood glucose to different degrees, so too do some sugar alcohols.


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    This article originally appeared on mendosa.com on February 13, 2004. The link is : http://mendosa.com/netcarbs.htm



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    Update: Response from Atkins
    It took the Atkins people seven months to recognize this article and respond to it. And when they did write, it became clear that they didn’t like it at all.
    My article “makes an unfounded claim and does a considerable disservice to the millions of Americans who lead healthier lives by following the Atkins Nutritional Approach,” writes Colette Heimowitz, vice president, education and research, Atkins Health and Medical Information Services. Actually, she enumerated three unfounded claims that I supposedly made in this article: Basing my article on the glycemic index is “problematic” for several reasons:

    It is “misleading to compare the quantity of sugar alcohol tested to determine the glycemic index with the quantity of sugar alcohol that is actually in our products” because the “glycemic index does not take into account serving size.”

    My article did “not consider that other components in the product [besides sugar alcohol] such as fat, fiber and protein will have an impact on the metabolism of the sugar alcohol and, thus, the blood sugar response.”

    My article also “fails to recognize is that the human trials conducted on Atkins-branded products were done with healthy individuals. Results are likely to vary in a diabetic population where blood sugar control is abnormal.”
    All of these reservations are specious or worse.
    I have never compared “the quantity of sugar alcohol tested to determine the glycemic index with the quantity of sugar alcohol that is actually in [Atkins] products.” The crux of my argument is that the Atkins products claim that they use “sugar alcohols that…have a minimal impact on blood sugar,” but in fact they use some sugar alcohols — particularly maltitol — that do have a considerable impact on blood sugar.

    My article was about net carbs, specifically the sugar alcohols. The fact that other food components have a minimal blood glucose impact is irrelevant to the fact that sugar alcohols like maltitol have a considerable impact.

    I find it interesting that Atkins products have not been tested on people with diabetes. Maybe that is another reason to avoid them.…

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    Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

    And this is the most revealing factoid in that article, imo:

    the human trials conducted on Atkins-branded products were done with healthy individuals.
    This makes me question the sugar alcohol thing even more, especially for those of us who are obese and are in that "prediabetic" classification (and may or may not know we are).

    And like the author, I why Atkins Nutritionals Inc. doesn't do human trials on diabetics or pre-diabetics.
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      Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

      Great article but I do have to sort of agree with Colette cause the Glycemic Index test uses 100 grams of the stuff to see what effect that has on the blood sugar levels of the test subjects and according to the candy bars ( did any one notice Atvantage bars have been reformulated not to include SAs) themselves that would be about 4 candy bars impact at thew same time. It would be interesting to see how thewy ranked in the GI load or the AGR Dr Atkins assigned to the foods in AFL.

      I would love to see the stuff tested on actual folk who would be using it as a part of their weight loss program and not healthy male test subjects.


      BTW Wouldn't you know the low GI SA Mannitol also has the lowest GastroIntestinal level for triggering diareaha and gives a new meaning to low GI
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        Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

        RE: mannitol---Yup. Medically they give mannitol to severe head injury cases to help reduce brain swelling. But the problem is if the dose is too high it can cause kidney damage.

        What I would like Atkins nutritionals to do is to study those bars/shakes in a wide cross-section of Atkins dieters: Inductioners, OWLers, and Pre-Maintainers. And have a variety of people types within those groups: high metabolic resistant, moderate and low, pre-diabetic, diabetic, etc. and see what happens.

        I remember getting into a discussion with someone before about glycerin and I learned that the studies they use to determine how glycerin affects blood sugar uses young healthy and fit men who are given a dose of glycerin, then put on a treadmill or exercise bicycle and exercised until their muscles are exhausted. It's not tested on normal everyday people (different sexes, different degrees of wellness and fitness) who go about a normal schedule. Speaking for myself, I'm not that young anymore, I'm getting fitter and I'd definitely not a man and after I eat something I typically don't get on a treadmill or exercise bike and exercise to exhaustion.....
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          Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

          I read in atkins.com (I guess, dont remember well) that maltitol have an impact in blood sugar if your eat more than 17 gr per day.
          I know Maltitol has more sweet power than erithrynol




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            Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

            I find it unreasonable to either avoid any dessert with sugar or sugar substitute. So I'm not sure which is the lesser of two evils: eating a dessert with "real" sugar or sugar substitute.
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              I find it unreasonable to either avoid any dessert with sugar or sugar substitute. So I'm not sure which is the lesser of two evils: eating a dessert with "real" sugar or sugar substitute.
              I am not sure I'm following you here, nutrinut. If a person has unstable blood sugars, it is reasonable to expect that in order to stabilize those blood sugars a person would necessarily stay away from sugar itself.

              OTOH, I agree that sugar substitutes are as questionable! I'm glad Dr A kept it to 3 servings a day, merely because sugar is perhaps the greatest bane to mankind's health in the last 50 years, and why substitute a drug with drug-lite?

              The beauty on Atkins is being so rid of sugar that one can, again, appreciate the sweetness and succulence of meat, cheese, and other foods our taste buds were once dead to.

              Like the ex-smoker whose nostrils come alive again, our tastebuds blossom on this way of eating, because they are not confounded with the low-quality foods which must contain sugars in order to taste decently.

              Sorry for the rambling, but, in short, yes, it is plausible to expect the sugar druggie to stay away from sugar as it is for the cocaine druggie to stay away from their addiction. Without ridding one's self of either substance one both admits defeat and risks their health.
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                Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

                I have a difficult time believing that natural foods God created (such as sugar) are always "bad" for us. I realize some people have food intolerances. For example, God created peanuts, but some people are unable to eat them because of how their bodies react. And I guess the same can be said for sugar. Some bodies cannot tolerate the effects of sugar. However, I am not a firm believer in eliminating an entire food in order to lose weight. I think when we deny ourselves certain things, we only crave them more and end up eating more than we typically would.
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                • #9
                  Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

                  One of the things that Atkins attempts to teach is every meal doesn't need to feature a dessert, whether it be sugar or sugar-free. That was one of the ways I killed the sweetness craving monster that so dominated my life. For that, the glycemic index of sugar alcohols really didn't matter personally. They were just another way to continue eating my old ways. For those that do need to partake, Brook's article at least gives the more acceptable options.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

                    NutriNut:
                    I aggre with your sugar can't be bad for us as it says to a point... but you are missing a very key part of the ingredient. All the sugar we eat is refined.. very highly refined. If you gnawed on some sugar cane for a while it wouldn't be anything like eating some cotten candy. In fact I have read a study where tribes who eat raw sugar cane all the time don't have any cases of diabeties. Basicially I wouldn't really consider refined sugar as a natural substance as you might be.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

                      yep sugar cane and tabel sugar are two different things.

                      just cause something is "natural" that God made doesn't mean it is healthy
                      there are alot of natural poisons out there like the green leafy part of our rhubard plants that are deadly.
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                      • #12
                        Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

                        Nutrinut first welcome back to our family
                        I found that by not having sweetened dishes during induction for about a year I have completely killed cravings for them. During induction my 'sweet treat' was chopped celery and a few cherry tomatoes in mayo.

                        Or if you feel you need a little extra after your main course why not have a little yummy piece of brie cheese?

                        I do have dessert occasionally now (I am on the 'other fruits rung) and find that I dont need any added sweetener with for example strawberries and blueberries and they taste sweet to me without. I usually have them with unsweetened greek yogurt or yocheese btw to add fat to their carbs.

                        Now I am on the second fruit rung I find papaya, lychees and grapes taste almost too sweet and even like them with sour cream!!

                        So for me it has been perfectly easy to avoid those 'sugarfree' desserts.

                        Try it and - you never know - it may work for you this time

                        If you dont feed your sugar monster it might lose its power over you.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

                          I know where Elizellen is coming from. I'm on OWL and I eat fresh or stewed fruit for dessert frequently. I find the natural sweetness of the fruit to be very sweet. In fact, I remember the first strawberry I ate after being on the WOE for about 7 months. It was like candy to me. The higher carb fruits like apricots, peaches, grapes, and the tropicals are too sweet for me to eat and I usually need to eat it these fruits with a cream or cheese in order to cut the sweetness. Bananas are outrageously sweet---almost too sweet to eat for my tastes.

                          During Induction, I ate cheese and the sweet veggies like jicama or pumpkin puree for dessert. But more often than not, I didn't eat dessert at all because I didn't want to make that into a habit. But then I'm not a candy/cake/pie carb junkie----I'm a potatoes/rice/pasta junkie so it's easy for me to pass up a piece of cake or pie or pastry. The most interesting thing that happened to me was when I reached those rungs of OWL and was able to incorporate them into my diet, I found that they didn't taste as good as I had remembered them.
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                            Re: Fantastic information about Sugar Alcohols

                            yep me too. Afyter a long induction I was looking for the hidden sugar source in the ingredients in some chicken and fish dishes cause they sure tasted sweet to me.

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