2big,Megs or anyone with Good advice

**sunflowergrl** · February 17, 2006, 02:06 PM

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I don't have any advice, but I did want to tell you your pictures are beautiful!!! GOOD LUCK!!!!

**not2late** · February 17, 2006, 02:24 PM

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What kind of vegetables do you have available to you in your part of the world? As you have noticed Atkins is geared towards Western tastebuds. We've had/have ADBB members in Asia and in SouthEast Asia who eat the native vegetables as part of their Atkins. Leafy green vegetables, bittermelon, okra, certain types of squashes like the "opo' melon or Chinese okra http://www.hormel.com/kitchen/glossa...6034&catitemid= are relatively lower carb.

If you can get a list of the names of your native vegetables, we can try to find the carb counts for them.

**2big4mysize** · February 17, 2006, 02:26 PM

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okay so you are quitting smoking and moving to OWl at the same time wow.

are those the only veggies availble where you live or the only veggies yo enjoy eating? If they are the only ones you enjoyit is time to do like american parents do and hid some veggies in the other foods. meat loaf is a great place to hid grated carots summer quash greens and others soft when cooked veggies.
you can cook and puree them up as soups and sauces to get your veggies in. if that is all you have in your land can yiou get some canned vegies like tomotoes and peppers? I cut zuchinni up thin when I was inducting and had zuchinni noodles with spaghetti and meat balls as a meal.

there are some asian vegies that aren't avail in the american market you can use too. several mushrooms and some green veggies I've ask a former moderator of ADBB from Janpan to come list for you.

How about soups? creamed vegie soups can taste very good when you add the correct herbs. Have you tried riceing your cauliflower and using some as a bed for your meats to flavor? ince you like cabbage have you tried it as saurkraut? or kimchee? how about cabbage soup? it is sort of like chile but has cabbage in it.

**sadie@136** · February 17, 2006, 03:30 PM

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thanku sunflowergrl

2big/megs
these veggies are avaible here and some are out of season
turnips(least favourtie when cooked,but i can eat it raw)
spinach(upsets my stomach)
cauliflower(will be out of seaseon in one month,finally

)
cabbage
lettuce
broccolli(will be available in 2 months )
okra(after one month)
egg plant(hate it)
pumpkin(never ate in my life)
onions
tomatos
cucumber(wont be avaible in 2 two weeks tme)
beet root(wont be availabe in two weeks time)
green peas(but high glymic index wil make me crave things)
french beans(dont know if it is acceptable or not)
capsicum(green ones)
Tori(looks like zhuchini but i dont know if itis a type o f zhuchini or what,it is dark green in colour shape is just like zhuccini,but it doesnt have a cap/bud on it like)
and another thing is..if i somehow manage this veggies rung..can i skip cheese/nuts/alcohol?
we are not a cheese eating culture and eating cheese is like a torture to myself..i just like it on pizza(but pizzas have no entry in my life now)

**sadie@136** · February 17, 2006, 03:55 PM

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ince you like cabbage have you tried it as saurkraut? or kimchee? how about cabbage soup? it is sort of like chile but has cabbage in it.

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another thing 2big..i dont know what u mean by sauerkert /kimchee style
i just cut it and stir fry or eat it raw
i am ok with soups..but i am always always hungry after 15 minutes or so if i take soups...soups are served as a starter here..so old habits kickin..and i unintentionally wait for more food afterwards.

**not2late** · February 17, 2006, 05:58 PM

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You can skip rungs. For example, some people skip the alcohol rung because they don't drink alcohol. My alcohol rung consisted of 1-2 tablespoons of dry sherry, madeira, marsala or vermouth---I use it in sauces or to marinate meat. Some people skip the dairy rung because they are lactose intolerant.

If by "french beans" you mean the haricot vert (click this link to see the pic http://www.hormel.com/kitchen/glossa...5522&catitemid=), they are acceptable.

By the way, it's not the beet root itself that is okay for Induction. It's the green leafy tops of the beet root that are.

Turnip greens and mustard greens are edible and acceptable as well.
http://www.hormel.com/kitchen/glossa...stard%20greens

http://www.hormel.com/kitchen/glossa...stard%20greens

**pammie** · February 17, 2006, 09:37 PM

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just wanted to give my 2 cents. I have been doing Atkins in Japan for a while now. And I totally understand your problem. It is hard to find vegetables that are on the list.
My advice is 1. try new things. You said you never had pumpkin? Try it.
2. try vegies you don't like, cooked or arranged differently. I hate tomatoes, but found I can eat them if cooked into soups and stews.
3. research veggies you do have a available to you. It takes a litte work, but you should be able to find the carbs in vegies native to Pakistan. Here in Japan, I do sometimes eat veggies not on the list, but I do make sure their carb valies are similiar to listed items.

**Elizellen** · February 18, 2006, 04:30 AM

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Originally posted by sadie@136

we are not a cheese eating culture and eating cheese is like a torture to myself..

The dairy rung also includes milk and yogurt BTW

**2big4mysize** · February 18, 2006, 10:59 AM

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do you like yogurt? that is a rung 2 food as well.

rung 3 is nuts and seeds are their seeds you like to eat?

How about getting some veggies seeds and growing your own garden in a pot? I have out of season veggies in my pot in the kitchen. it gets too hot in the summer and too cold in the winter for some but I just grow them indors when they don't do well out doors my greens pot is constantly reseeded and harvested.

kraut is a german dish of cabbage that has been salted and cured for months. very sour tasting but good.
kimchee is Korean cabbage and hot spices cured for months too.

you can use your Atkins vegie soup as your appetizer too and then have your protein and fat part too. if your Atkins foods to yor meal style.

that is quite a list of veggies there you can eat.

can you find pictures of the veggies you don't know if they are legal and we can identify them for you?

here is zuchinni
this is called a bottle gourd here is this what you are talking about? if so carb count is about the same as the zuchinni

**hey_nelson** · February 18, 2006, 11:15 AM

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I have discovered slicing some cucumber, (I like it thin) adding lemon juice (a squeeze or two and add the carbs) and then sprinkle with dried chili or powdered red chili. Makes my lips smack just typing about it.

**sadie@136** · February 19, 2006, 01:37 AM

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u are right megs,that thing is called french beans sad it it is cooked with potatotes..and i dont have any recipie to cook it with out potatoes,
we have these turnips availbe heer,and yellow ones

thanks Pam for input
ellizen i didnt know that u can have anything other than cheese in cheese rung(it says more fresh/aged cheese)i am fine with milk/yougart

2big,i cant have seeds/nuts now since summer are here almost..and it makes me very hot if i am not in AC ..and i get very thirsty plus u can get joindec(SP?)
the torai thing has the same colour/shape that the first pic u sent but it doesnt have that cap thing on it..it has small seeds like cucumber but very soft..if u cook it they loose some water..they atre just like cucumbers inside
this is what i found about urdu name of turai(tori)
Ribbed gourd (Zuchini like vegetable)Tori or Turai
we have this vegetable too,ribbed gourd(loki for us)but i am not sure if it is allowed or not

**sadie@136** · February 19, 2006, 01:40 AM

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I have discovered slicing some cucumber, (I like it thin) adding lemon juice (a squeeze or two and add the carbs) and then sprinkle with dried chili or powdered red chili. Makes my lips smack just typing about it.

i love cucumbers but cant have then for two reasons
1:they are going to be out of season in 2 weeks or so
2:they have a high carb count..and i dont want to consume 8/10 carbs on one cucumber

**sadie@136** · February 19, 2006, 01:41 AM

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and i forgot to tell u that i lost one pound yesterday

i am at 109 lbs woohoo!

**divaindubai** · February 19, 2006, 05:58 AM

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whoo hooo Sades! one pound lost!

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