Lastest Atkins News From Uk!!!

[Emzina]

http://www.gm.tv/index.cfm?articleid=19641this is the latest news to hit the UK. I'm so annoyed as my mum who needs to lose weight was about to start the Atkins, following my progress, and now she wont!

[Richt]

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I just read the link, and it seems that she the person fell ill after just a month of low carb eating (or did I mis read it?).

If thats the case it seems a little too soon for something serious to happen, and that the person was probably ill before hand.

Rich

[Scooby]

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Ketoacidosis

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Ketoacidosis is a type of metabolic acidosis which is caused by high concentrations of keto acids, formed by the deamination of amino acids. This is most common in untreated type 1 diabetes mellitus, when the liver breaks down fat and proteins in response to a perceived need for respiratory substrate. Ketoacidosis should not be confused with ketosis, which is one of the body's normal processes for the metabolism of body fat. In ketoacidosis, the accumulation of keto acids is so severe that the pH of the blood is thrown off.

In diabetic patients, ketoacidosis is usually accompanied by dehydration, hyperglycemia, and insulin deficiency. Since insulin is required to utilize glucose, lack of insulin means the body cannot utilize glucose and causes an energy crisis and the body goes to extremes to produce more glucose and also provide ketone bodies for energy. Glucose accumulates to the point that the kidney must use water to spill it into the urine, losing that water and causing dehydration in the process. The dehydration exacerbates the acidosis in a vicious cycle.

Alcoholic ketoacidosis is also an energy crisis but of different origin. Because alcohol causes dehydration and blocks the first step of gluconeogenesis, the body is unable to synthesize enough glucose to meet its needs, thus the energy crisis begins.

The acidity results from the dissociation of the H+ ion at physiological pH of metabolic ketone bodies such as acetoacetate, and β-hydroxybutyrate, produced from ketogenesis and its concentration is increased by dehydration.

Some diets (such as the Atkins diet) are reported to induce a mild-to-moderate state of ketosis, but this does not result in ketoacidosis if the dieter drinks an appropriate amount of water. Any diet which burns fat molecules at a significant rate results in an increased production of ketone bodies.

Generally, ketosis is well regulated by the mileau of hormones governing the fasting and fed states, predominantly glucagon and insulin, and dieting (in an otherwise healthy person) is too mild to lead to acidosis. Before the recent abundant and sedentary lifestyles, it was probably normal for most humans to spend some of each year in ketosis, due to seasonal or temporary carbohydrate and/or calorie shortages. Unlike ketoacidosis, for most of human history, ketosis has been a normal condition and an essential capability.

Ketoacidosis occurs in two very different situations-- in type 1 diabetes (diabetic ketoacidosis) and in alcohol withdrawal (alcoholic ketoacidosis). The ultimate reason for ketoacidosis in both cases is the same: the cell does not have enough glucose (in the case of diabetes because lack of insulin prevents the cell from taking up glucose, in the case of starvation because there is less glucose around), so it begins metabolizing fat molecules instead of simple sugars. As a result of this metabolic change, acetyl CoA is mainly produced from the breakdown of fatty acids and fed into the citric acid cycle. The intermediates of the citric acid cycle are used for other anabolic purposes as well and have to be replenished. Normally, this is done by converting pyruvate into oxaloacetate or L-malate (the so-called anaplerotic pathways). But pyruvate is the end product of glycolysis, the breakdown of glucose, and glucose levels are lower in the cases we consider. This means that the citric acid cycle intermediates cannot be replenished, the cycle slows down, acetyl-CoA accumulates and ketogenes
is becomes more important.

The third sentence in the quote above says it all.

"Ketoacidosis should not be confused with ketosis, which is one of the body's normal processes for the metabolism of body fat."

Unless one has a pre-existing medical condition such as the patient in the article you quoted, there is very little probablitiy for unforeseen reactions.

[Sd1136]

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I was coming here to post this too,
My friend called me up last night and said I cant do atkins, Im gonna die!
To me the one I am posting , the other link doesnt load for me,
its just something to put down Atkins more
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188177,00.html
sandi

[Labarum]

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I have emailed GM TV with my story (see below)

I see the page http://www.gm.tv/index.cfm?articleid=19641 displays a typical Atkins meal of greasy bacon and eggs.

Can someone email a contribution setting out a more correct menu with pictures?

A UK signature might be better, even if the pictures are supplied by US members.

One for you Elizellen?

---

My Story:



As I child I always tended to be on the heavy side, though not excessively so. I had polio aged three and spent my childhood recovering from paralysis in the left leg. I was never any good at sport and consequently have no interest. By the time I was fully grown at 6 ft 3in I was top of the range normal and weighed about 14 stone (196 lb) I will subsequently quote only in lbs, but they may not be round numbers. Obesity is an issue in the family. My sister struggled as a girl and is now size 24/26. By middle age my father was over 250lb but brought his weight under control. My mother is short and a size 20. My weight crept up to around 210 when I was an undergraduate reading Theology at Durham University. I managed to get down to 198 when I went, aged 27, to the Sandhurst Military Academy to train as a chaplain. When I married at the age of 32, I was 210 again. Over the years the weight crept up. Medical Officers grumbled a bit, but it was no serious medical or professional concern.

When I was 53 I was over 250 lb. After spraining my ankle my mobility was badly impaired for a few months and my weight climbed to 260 lb. Time for the routine medical. At 54 I got a serious talking to from the Senior Medical Officer!
Blood Pressure March 04 147/94. Cholesterol up a little but differential very very good.

"Do Atkins", he said, "It works." I was on the edge of this decision anyway, but his backing made it easier at home. My wife is a biology teacher and has also taught nutrition and domestic science. Low fat was the regime at home "Not too much meat, dear, "it's bad for you." I am a Viking and love meat, so for me Atkins was easy and natural. I have no intention of abandoning the low carb way of life. One of the nurses in the medical centre and my wife raise a caution from time to time about "stress on your kidneys." The Senior Medical Officer dismisses those concerns.

By the end of June 04 my weight was down to 225 and my blood pressure was121/74. By December 04 I weighed 208lb and my blood pressure was down to 119/72. My resting pulse is in the mid to high 50s. I don't have the results of the blood tests, but I do know they were impressively healthy.
On a 65% fat diet my cholesterol had fallen a little, though it was not an issue in the beginning.

What Atkins said about high glycimic index foods and the blood sugar roller-coaster was certainly true for me. If I feed on fat and protein I do not suffer from hunger or cravings and just feel generally more "steady." I may be a strange way to put it, but quite precise - I feel steady, stable and satisfied eating the Atkins way. I have no need to rush for the sweets or for apples and oranges as I did before. I was probably heading for type two diabetes before. I hope to avoid that now.

I eat lots of meat, foul and fish with mountains of salad and green vegetables, and yes, I drink litres of water a day. I have Greek Yogurt or Low Carb Home made Ice Cream with strawberries. I am not sure to what extent these dairy products contributed to my winter stall. I have taken to flax cooking - half and half with Whey Protein Isolate, olive oil and egg, and flavoured with lemon, cinnamon, Italian Herbs or sun-dried tomatoes. My treat is a square or two of high cocoa content dark chocolate, sometimes by itself, and sometimes microwaved into fudge with cream and butter.




There is still more to be done. I must exercise more and try harder to get those last few pounds off. The Base swimming pool has closed, which is a loss, but I have been enjoying cycling the country lanes. My ambition is to get below 14 stone (196 lb). I will have to work hard for these last few pound, but the 50lbs down from 260 to 210 was very easy.

[Richt]

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I see the link no longer works? Or is that just me?

[Labarum]

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I see the link no longer works? Or is that just me?

Works, but is v e r y s l o w

[Richt]

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Brian, I have just sent the following to that site! Do you think it may be a bit strong?

I have lost close to 5 stone in weight since starting out on Atkins. I began the diet in November 2003 and have found it the easiest thing to do.

It has lowered my cholesterol, my blood pressure and has drastically improved my level of fitness. I go back to my doctors on a fairly regular basis to keep a check on my "numbers", as I was concerned about the bad press that the diet gets.

To quote one of your lines above "As instructed in the original Atkins diet book, she monitored her urine twice daily using dipsticks. During this month-long period, she lost around nine kilograms of weight." It seems that for someone to have had such a bad reaction to the diet after just 4 weeks of following it, probably had health problems prior to starting.

I find it amazing and really narrow minded that people still think that Atkins is a "no carb diet". Its not, its a "low carb one". People automatically think that all we eat is bacon and eggs! So narrow minded!

Regards

Richard

p.s feel free to drop by and visit a Atkins diet support board that I am an administrator on and see quite how many peoples lives have changed thanks to Dr Atkins. www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.com

[Emzina]

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I sent a reply to them too Richt, something along those lines! It's ridiculous to think that after only one month that could happen!!!

What a crock of sh1t!!!
And I'm even more annoyed that my mother is listening to it and not starting this diet! She's knows it works as she's seen me and I 've showed her this site....

[Diva217.5]

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http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/sto...66.htm&sc=1500

Its funny how different countries write about certain things.Heres the link for the Usa CNN which is a our main "news" channel.It clearly points out this is extrememly rare, and the rest of it is quite positive.Read it and you'll have a different point of view.

[Sd1136]

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anything to put the diet down
and yet more people die from the stapling surgery and they promote that more as good
sandi

[Sd1136]

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reading the above article,
they stated
"
For a month before she fell ill, the woman had lived on meat, cheese and salads, said the doctors.



She also took supplements recommended by the diet, including:

• Atkins Basic3 multivitamins.
• Atkins Essential Oils.
• Atkins Dieters' Advantage - which contains electrolytes.
• A tthermogenic formula, Atkins Accel.

Meat cheese and salad isnt bad and if she was following the diet as Dr. Atkins said, she also had veggies.
I wonder if they even looked for any other reaosns she got sick, or just heard she was on Atkins and said BINGO
sandi

[big_bad_john]

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Screw the idiots thats what I say.

You think its a conincidence that Atkins is getting attacked again?

Its a conincidence that a woman with diabetes who dies is used to attack Atkins?

Yet again the establishment doesnt like their power being erroded by people becoming empowered to deal with their weight issues.

Guess the lobby groups who make money peddling food that belong in the dustbin have been active again....

Really now... next you'll be telling me that freedom and democracy exist in the western world!

Down with capitalism thats what I say...

[Labarum]

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My, you certainly have a way with words, Big Bad John.

[Labarum]

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Brian, I have just sent the following to that site! Do you think it may be a bit strong?

Not at all. Well written.

In what region do GM TV broadcast?

Do we have any members in that area. Responses from them are more likely to get published - even if they are ghost-written by one of our more knowlegeable members. Hint. Hint.

And we need some female input.