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    New research on Atkins diet challenges 30 years of nutritional dogma


    An article from www.edietsuk.co.uk


    Is it just possible that Dr Robert C Atkins was right? That his high-fat, low-carb plan, ridiculed for 30 years as dangerous nonsense, actually is a good, safe way to lose weight?

    The dietary elite are not ready to change their collective mind, but half a dozen or so new studies carried out in the US, have taken an objective look at the presumed evils of Atkins, and the results have been little short of astonishing.

    During a few months on the Atkins diet, people lose about twice as much as on the standard low-fat, high-carbohydrate approach recommended by most health organisations.

    They do so without seeming to drive up their risk of heart disease. Rather than going through the roof, their cholesterol, triglycerides, blood pressure and ominous bloodstream inflammation generally improve, perhaps even more than on the standard diet.

    They appear to lose more weight even while actually consuming more calories than people on a diet traditionally considered healthy.

    All of the experiments were short and small. None by itself would make a big stir. But taken together, they undermine much of what mainstream medicine has long assumed about the Atkins diet.

    "Some scientists are dismayed by the data and a little incredulous about it," says Gary Foster, who runs the weight-loss programme at the University of Pennsylvania. "But the consistency of the results across studies is compelling in a way that makes us think we should investigate this further."


    Until now, the opinion of the medical world on this subject has been essentially unanimous: Any diet that emphasizes meat, eggs and cheese and discourages bread, rice and fruit is nutritional folly.

    The American Medical Association set that tone a year after the book, "Dr Atkins' Diet Revolution," came out in 1972. Its critique dismissed the diet as "potentially dangerous." It called its scientific underpinning "naive" and "biochemically incorrect." And it scolded book publishers for promoting "bizarre concepts of nutrition and dieting."

    On the Atkins diet, up to two-thirds of calories may come from fat — more than double the usual recommendation — and that violates everything medical professionals believe about healthy eating. Carbohydrates are the foundation of a good diet, most say. Eating calorie-dense fat is what makes people fat, and eating saturated fat is what kills them.

    Despite this, Atkins' books have sold 15 million copies, uncounted millions have tried the diet and practically everybody has heard of someone who dropped a ton of weight on the Atkins plan.

    Finally, several research teams around the country have put Atkins to the test, driven largely by weariness at having nothing solid to tell patients and, in some cases, a desire to prove Atkins wrong. One study was even sponsored by the American Heart Association, long an Atkins sceptic.

    None has been published yet but summaries have been given at medical conferences. "They all show pretty convincingly that people will lose more weight on an Atkins diet and their cardiovascular risk factors, if anything, get better," says Dr Kevin O'Brien, a University of Washington cardiologist involved with one of the studies.

    This is not the end of the story. The studies say nothing about how much people lose when they stay on Atkins more than a few months, whether they keep the weight off for good and whether their cholesterol rebounds when they stop losing weight.

    Nevertheless, three decades of dietary gospel are in doubt, and those questioning it include some of the most prominent names in obesity research. For instance, one of the new studies was conducted by Foster with Drs Samuel Klein and James Hill, the current and past presidents of the North American Association for the Study of Obesity, the premier professional group.

    "I'm part of the obesity establishment," says Foster, who has published more than 50 scientific papers on the subject. "I've spent my life researching ways to treat obesity, and 100 percent of them have been low-fat and high-carb. Now I'm beginning to think, it isn't as it has appeared."

    His Atkins study was intended to "show it doesn't work," yet after three months, the overweight men and women had lost an average of 19 pounds, 10 more than people on the standard high-carb approach.

    The big surprise was cholesterol. The Atkins dieters' overall profile changed for the better. Although their bad cholesterol went up seven points, their good cholesterol rose almost 12. (Changes in the high-carb dieters were less dramatic. Their bad cholesterol went down slightly while their good cholesterol remained unchanged.)

    The largest difference was in triglycerides. The Atkins dieters' dropped 22 points. The low-carb dieters' didn't budge.

    "It was unexpected, to put it mildly," Foster said. "It made us think maybe there is something to this."

    Despite these data, the Atkins diet still raises questions for many health professionals. It encourages people to eat bacon, butter, steak and lots of other things loaded with saturated fat. And it lectures against such mainstay carbohydrates as grains, pasta and starchy vegetables, especially in the diet's first cold-turkey stage; plenty of other healthy things, including many low-carb green vegetables and olive oil are allowed.

    "There are many principles in the Atkins diet that go against what we know," says Dr Robert Eckel of the University of Colorado, senior author of the heart association's policy on high-protein diets. "It keeps people away from staples of the diet that we know are associated with less heart disease."

    Volumes of research suggest that people have the best chance of avoiding heart disease, high blood pressure and cancer if they eat a varied diet with plenty of fruits, vegetables and grains.

    "It's scary if people leave out these very important food groups and just depend on high-fat, high-protein foods," says Wahida Karmally, nutrition director at Columbia University's clinical research centre.

    Furthermore, people on the Atkins plan may get a quarter of their daily calories from saturated fat, more than double the heart association's recommendation. Animal experiments and studies of large groups of people long ago convinced many experts that too much saturated fat clogs the arteries and leads to heart attacks.

    Mainstream scientists wave off the Atkins camp's answer to this — that saturated fat is bad only if eaten with large amounts of carbohydrates. Otherwise, it's harmlessly burned off.

    "When carbs are the primary fuel source, there are certain risks in excessive fat consumption," says Colette Heimowitz, the Atkins organisation's research director. "But in a controlled-carb setting, when fat is the primary fuel source, the rules change. Those risk factors do not show up."

    So how do the traditionalists explain the cholesterol improvement seen in the Atkins dieters? Weight loss. Slimming down reliably improves cholesterol levels and they say its benefits probably overshadowed any damage done by all the unhealthy fat that people ate.

    Why people lose more weight on the diet is also not clear, although some researchers say they buy one of Atkins' arguments: People stick with it because they are not constantly hungry. Fat and protein satisfy the appetite, the theory goes. But eating lots of carbohydrates raises insulin levels, lowers blood sugar, and eventually makes people ravenous.

    But another of Atkins' ideas on the subject is far more contentious. He argues that people lose more weight on his plan even if they actually eat more calories. That's a violation of the laws of thermodynamics, sceptics say.

    "A calorie is a calorie as far as weight reduction is concerned," says Dr Michael Davidson, director of preventive cardiology at the Rush Heart Institute in Chicago.

    Or is it? Some of the new studies suggest otherwise.

    Dr Stephen Sondike of Mount Sinai Medical Centre in New York City put overweight teenagers on comparison diets for two months. The ones on Atkins lost twice as much as those on the low-fat diet. Yet they appeared to eat about 700 more calories a day than the others.

    Less dramatic but still startling results came from another study at the University of Cincinnati. Women on Atkins lost twice as much while eating the same number of calories as the low-fat dieters.

    "Surprised? Definitely," says Bonnie Brehm, a registered dietitian. "We really don't know what the answer is."

    And the Atkins weight loss was not simply dehydration, as Atkins critics often contend, since the Cincinnati dieters also lost twice as much body fat.

    But even if the diet is reasonable for a few months of slimming down, what happens when people level off during the maintenance phase of the programme? Does their cholesterol soar if they eat all that fat without losing weight?

    He put fit men on an Atkins regime for six weeks with orders not to lose weight, and nothing bad seemed to happen. Their good and bad cholesterol went up proportionately, and their triglycerides fell. "I'd like to see more data," Volek said, "but ours provides evidence it doesn't have a negative effect on your heart."

    This federally sponsored project will randomly put 360 overweight men and women on the Atkins plan or the US Department of Agriculture's standard high-carb, low-fat diet, then watch them in painstaking detail for at least two years.

    The study will try to answer three questions about Atkins, says Hill, who directs the University of Colorado's Centre for Human Nutrition. "Does it produce weight loss? Is it a safe weight loss? And is it any better in the long run than anything else that has come along?"

    Scientists will analyse the volunteers' blood and cholesterol in every way they can think of, as well as check their bone density, kidney function, body composition, exercise tolerance and more.

    Despite the professions' unease at the findings so far, some of the researchers involved expect that if the Atkins approach proves safe and effective in larger, longer studies, those opinions will eventually change.

    "It's difficult to swallow," says O'Brien, "but the data are the data, even if they go against 30 years of dogma."

    http://www.edietsuk.co.uk/dietprofil...12&code=700500
    Atkins didn't say 'Calories don't count',
    he said, 'Don't count calories.'
    --------------------------------------
    Male 6 ft 3in 60 years old. Married 28 years.
    Began Atkins March 04 at 260lb, reduced to 203lb by April 07 and maintained.
    Blood Pressure Mar 04 147/94 . Jun 04 121/74 . Dec 04 119/72 . Jan 06 126/71 . Dec 07 110/70
    Atkins makes exercise mandatory - I took up cycling - see last pics at 203lb.


    http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=labarum

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    Re: 30 years of dietry gospel are in doubt

    I can't wait to see the results of those studies! The shame of it is, they'll denounce the studies and study again and denounce those studies and on and on.

    Yeah, Atkins is bad for us because the scientists today say so, even when the evidence says otherwise. But, they are so much smarter today than the scientists who once thought the world was flat, right???
    ~Joy

    Start 1/2/06 Goal 6/11/07 restart 1/2/09
    268.5/196/185
    QUIT SMOKING JULY 23, 2006 while on Atkins


    Just when you think you've eaten enough vegetables...EAT SOME MORE!
    http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJournals.html?Owner=ride2joy

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    • #3
      Re: 30 years of dietry gospel are in doubt

      Wow Brian
      What a turnup for the books

      Thanks for posting that information.
      Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
      Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



      Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





      F/60 yrs/5ft 5.5" (Though due to collapsing vertebrae I am now only 5'3" - but I refuse to recalculate my BMI )

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      • #4
        Re: 30 years of dietry gospel are in doubt

        I wrote my research essay on Atkin and tied in research like these... it sounded pretty convincing... i should post it
        f 138/120/110 started 2006/05/15

        vegetarian

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        • #5
          Re: 30 years of dietry gospel are in doubt

          Originally posted by Labarum
          New research on Atkins diet challenges 30 years of nutritional dogma
          "There are many principles in the Atkins diet that go against what we know," says Dr Robert Eckel of the University of Colorado, senior author of the heart association's policy on high-protein diets. "It keeps people away from staples of the diet that we know are associated with less heart disease."

          Volumes of research suggest that people have the best chance of avoiding heart disease, high blood pressure and cancer if they eat a varied diet with plenty of fruits, vegetables and grains.
          This bugs me slightly. Atkineers only restrict themselves for 2 weeks (or longer if on extended Induction) then we go on to introduce more rich and nutrient dense food into our diet. By the time we reach Lifetime Maintenance we will be eating plenty of fruits, veg and grains. And this is compared to the big percentage of the obese population who aren't eating a varied diet and stuffing themselves full of junk food!?


          26 yr 5'2 F
          Did Atkins on and off from Feb 2005 until April 2008. Fluctuated between 15 st 1/211lbs and 11 st 1/155lbs.
          On different weightloss programme from 28th May 2008 start weight 14 st 11/207lbs.
          Current weight 10st 3lbs/143lbs.
          Ultimate Goal Weight 9 st/126lbs.

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          • #6
            Re: 30 years of dietry gospel are in doubt

            I've been doing alot of research lately into why I gained so much weight to begin with. And much of what I am finding out is because the nutritional information for the past 30 years has been wrong (aka Food Pyramid), and Atkins has shown this, at least for me personally. I was doing lowfat/high carb for years and doing it wrong, and kept gaining weight.

            It is difficult to find true factual information on the Internet, since there are so many biased sources and you can find just about any artcile or website to support what you want. The best sources is actual results of medical studies, but you have to be able to interpret the medical jargon. But I'm continuing to research it.

            But the idea that high cholesterol is bad and that high fat causes heart disease is even questionable as well. The actual studies in this are really inconclusive. The American Heart Association and other credible sources for nutritional and healthcare may not be right. For example, just as many people with low cholesterol have heart attacks as those with high cholesterol. And why do populations that have access to refined carbohydrates (i.e. urban or more modernized societies) have higher risks of obesity and heart disease? There are some interesting studies being done in Africa in developing countries on this.

            My own body is my experiment and I have the numbers to prove it, even if I don't believe those numbers (cholesterol) should be as critical as the medical profession believes. I trust numbers like weight, BMI, and blood pressure alot more for more reliable indications of how your health is.

            Thanks for posting this.
            Start date: 2/22/04 347/222/135 ~ 5'2"
            STAC Restart: 1/05/09
            306/229/135 ~ 5'2" 77 lbs down!

            Goal #1: 247 - 2nd 10% (59lbs, 247, also 100 lbs total loss) - Met 1/4/10!!!
            Goal #2: 241 - Halfway to goal! (106 lbs lost) - Met 2/21/10!!!

            Goal #3: 222 - 3rd 10% - Lowest Atkins weight
            Goal #4: 210 - Still on track!
            Goal #5: 200/199 - 4th 10% - One-derland! End year goal!
            Female/Hypothyroidism/Arthritis/Fibromyalgia - If I can lose weight on this, so can you!
            bizzlekitty's journal


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            • #7
              Re: 30 years of dietry gospel are in doubt

              Fantastic article, Thanks for posting it!
              I am also eagerly awaiting the results of this longer term experiment. Of course, we know what the results will be!! But I'd love for some light bulbs to go off in some of the USDA's brains because of it.

              I think back to growing up when we would have rice or potatos with every meal and bread and butter, too, then a scoop of something green (green beans, broccoli or peas, usually) and your meat du jour. I now make potatos with dinner for my crew maybe every other night along with 2 other veggies and our meat. As long as there are atleast 2 side dishes, it is usually not noticed by my guys that there is no starchy food. I didn't intend for my family to start eating this way, it just kinda happened. DH has dropped 6 pounds (I can't wait to hear about his next cholesteral test, the DR. told him flat out he could NOT change his cholesteral with diet and exercise, immediately stuck him on Zocor, DH took it for one day had a horrible reaction and told the doctor to take a hike) and my 16 month old still eats whole grains with almost every meal but he is doing alot of growing (he is the size of a 2 yr old *proud momma*). The little one though will sit down to a plate of veggies and it all of those first before touching anything else. He loves anything green!

              I just love the fact that the rest of the medical world might actually be catching up to Dr. A's research. Thanks so much Brian!
              *Melinda*
              *Condiment Queen*
              HW 278 SW 196.5 CW 176 GW 150
              "Argue your limitations and they are yours" -Richard Bach

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              • #8
                Re: 30 years of dietry gospel are in doubt

                Thanks for posting this. I hate how if anyone hears that I'm on "THE ATKINS," they think I'm about to keel over and die as a kidney pops out of my body... the sad truth is that Atkins lifetime maintenance is at least as healthy as the plans that are the gospel of the USDA and are looking like they are even more healthy than those prescribed plans... this is sad because so many people are suffering from obesity and the accompanying illnesses because our health organizations have lied to them, sure, out of sheer stubbornness--but people are being killed by these lies...

                Anyway, I'll get down off my soapbox, and say thanks once again for posting an article.
                No stats. Not weighing anymore ever. Will post "before and after" pictures when I want to. The end.

                Vigilance, not perfection.

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                • #9
                  Re: 30 years of dietry gospel are in doubt

                  The article is great. It is very encouraging to know that at least some doctors are starting to open their eyes and take another look. Maybe eventually they will understand the whole picture instead of just one or 2 pieces of the puzzle.


                  But even if the diet is reasonable for a few months of slimming down, what happens when people level off during the maintenance phase of the programme? Does their cholesterol soar if they eat all that fat without losing weight?
                  Obviously, this is a naiive misunderstanding - because the amount of fat goes down as you add carbs in the diet. You would think that the studies put Atkins regime in a single all inclusive box of the induction variety, disregard the obvious evidence presented in real life (like here at ADBB), and the scientists are oblivious to some rather obvious support for why this diet works as it does. For instance, more weight is lost per calorie consumed by a person in ketosis, because ketones passed in urine represent unburned fat calories.
                  ~Susan
                  49/f 5'7" Start 2-27-06 SW222/11-18-09 @ 160-ish/G135-150ish??

                  Doin Miles, Flights, & Kid Ketchin'...
                  2 Ab Chal's; 6WEC#27 slug-Free; & more; 50# LOST in'06-
                  but regained ~20# in '07 in less than 3 weeks! And again early '08 ...Was in HEAVEN -got to 150, for awhile, then got too busy, and gave in too much... and... OK holding pattern "keep it together..."

                  .................OMG how did I fail AGAIN
                  (((on temporary break)))
                  Sigh ... I'll be back... life isn't always fair 10-07-09

                  "Goal: First you have to dream of it. Then you have to do it." Author unknown

                  sheesh

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