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  • It was only one piece of bread....

    Hi gang.

    Like I've posed before. I've found it hard "finding the Atkins magic" after being so succesful before. It's tricky to get to the next level. I find that I get too cocky. The other night I had a whopping one peice of bread, two pretzels, and a glass of scotch. Boy - it i so easy to forget how moving off target can be like dropping an atom bomb on your ketosis. I felt bloated and pudgey within hours!!! Wow!!! Now that I'm getting back into my old "good" habits, I'm regaining my respect for what a biochemical monster carbs can be!!

    Truth be told, i think I'm getting most of my demons under control.

    Here's what works for me - I'd love some opinions:

    Bkfast: Two eggs and a few microwaved beef sausages.
    1 double espresso. (I know about the caffeine, but the small volume seems to work).

    Snack: Green Tea

    Lunch: I forgoe lunch until around 3pm. This seems to really ensure ketosis and I'm not usually hungrey to later. . I then have a salad, a can of tuna, & some mayo - or something equivalent. Undressed chicken caeser or just a salad and blue cheese.

    Dinner - something small. peice of chicken. Small steak.

    Snack: My favorite: A peice of cheese and a few walnuts. (not too many).

    I have also foregone my vitamins. Somehow, once I dropped them, the keto-sticks all went purple. I'm going to wait until I'm down 10lbs, then I'll add them back next week.

    Thanks !!

    - Thinker
    THINKER!!

    SW: 310; CW: 230; GW: 190

    Mid-40s 6'0"

  • #2
    Re: It was only one piece of bread....

    Can you work out why you decided to eat off-plan? Knowing this will help you plan strategies for avoiding making that decision in the future.

    It looks to me as if you might not be eating enough food!
    Can you post your quantities to help people help you with suggestions?

    Do you know what your fat/protein/carbs ratios work out to?
    It is impossible to guess this from what you have listed, as we cant see if the chicken or steak had any fat on them.

    You should be aiming at a 65%/30%/5% ratio on induction.

    Are you on induction? If so drop the walnuts as they are a rung 3 OWL food.

    I assume you have checked the label on the sausages for any non-induction ingredients?

    Giving your supplements up just to make the ketosticks show purple is NOT a good idea. You need to know whether you are getting enough vitamins from your food to make that
    If you use something like www.fitday.com you will be able to check whether you are depriving your body of vitamins and minerals by your food choices, and make an enlightened decision as to whether you need to take any supplements.
    Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
    Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



    Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





    F/60 yrs/5ft 5.5" (Though due to collapsing vertebrae I am now only 5'3" - but I refuse to recalculate my BMI )

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    • #3
      Re: It was only one piece of bread....

      Another thing to keep in mind, Thinker, is to maintain your veggie intake. The fiber helps your body process the fats and protein, which helps turn you into a fat burning machine. Also, while it is sometimes tempting to forego eating when you are not hungry it is important to eat a small snack and never go more than 6 hours without eating. This keeps your metabolism working and, in the long run, helps you to lose more weight.

      Just my two cents.

      - Tom
      Male / 5'10.5" / 31 years old - Start Weight: 330 lbs. - Current Weight: 173.8 lbs.

      Total loss to date: 160(ish) lbs.

      ...but you be strong and do not lose courage, for there is reward for your work. -- Chronicles 15:7

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      • #4
        Re: It was only one piece of bread....

        Caution about those ketosticks......

        They are only a guide and not a very good one.

        The human body produces 3 ketone bodies during fat metabolism: beta hydroxybutyric acid, acetoacetic acid, and acetone. The ketone body in greatest concentration is beta hydroxybutyric acid (about 80-85%). Acetoacetic acid comes in at about 10-15%) and acetone about 5-10%.

        Beta hydroxybutyric acid is also called the "serum ketone" or the "blood ketone". You can only test for it by analysing your blood (not too convenient for most of us). The blood test is by far the best and most specific test for ketosis, which is why most hospitals rely on that more than the stix.

        The stix only tests for acetoacetic acid. To complicate matters, both acetoacetic acid and acetone are "dissolved" in your blood. So they can convert to each other. Acetone is released from your body, primarily by your lungs (the "ketobreath" thing). So it's possible that have a higher concentration of acetoacetic acid but the stix don't show it because it's been converted to acetone and you've breathed it out.

        The other factor is that the stix tests for the concentration of the acetoacetic acid in your urine. So, if your urine is dilute, there will be less acetoacetic acid around and the stix will detect a smaller amount. To picture this, let's say you have 3 magnetized marbles. You put them into an 8- ounce glass and fill it up with water. You stick a magnet into the glass and all 3 marbles stick to it. Now, let's say you dump those 3 marbles into a 5 gallon container and fill it up with water. You dip the magnet into the water and none of the marbles stick to it. You still have the same number of marbles but the concentration has been diluted and so you can a different result. That's what happens with those ketostix.

        the other problem with the ketostix is with alcohol. When you drink alcohol, your body breaks it down into a bunch of chemicals in order to get rid of it. One of those chemicals is acetic acid. The acetic acid can give a false positive on the ketostix.

        And Ensifer is completely correct about eating boosting your metabolism. You boost it by going into a state of thermogenesis (heat production). Heat is the by-product of energy usage. There are two ways to increase your thermogenicity: exercise and eating. Exercise is self-explanatory because you move your muscles and you use energy to produce energy, heat and water. Eating boosts it in almost the same way===the eating and digestive processes require you to use energy to eat (chew, swallow, transport to your stomach, etc.) and digest your food, so you produce heat.
        ~Megs~
        242/141/160 (130)
        dress size 26/10/8
        5'4", Female, May 2, 2003
        My blog:
        http://mformiscellaneous.blogspot.com/

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        • #5
          Re: It was only one piece of bread....

          Hey guys!

          Great comments!

          1. I think I've isolated that I tend to eat off plan when I'm travelling. A lot of time, frankly, I run out of food. I was having considerably more trouble with this earlier. I tried to balance my eating a little better. However, when you're stuck on a business trip - sometimes you're out of food. It isn't always so easy to bring food with me. Frankly, if I go to long, I tend to get a little faint.

          2. I've been on OWL. I've placed 10lbs back on after many years and I want to take it off. However, I'm thinking that I really need to go all the way back to induction. I wonder if your metabolism simply adjusts. Alas, no more walnuts.

          3. Good point about the veggie intake. I usually get my veggies from salads. That's my main source.

          4. I did check the sausages. What a variation!!! Some are 1gram per sausage (eesh). The ones I buy are 1 gram for every 3 sausages. I usually have 2 for breakfast and I count them as 1 gram.

          Thanks thank thanks


          - Thinker
          THINKER!!

          SW: 310; CW: 230; GW: 190

          Mid-40s 6'0"

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          • #6
            Re: It was only one piece of bread....

            Often I rely on buying stuff at supermarkets instead of restaurants when out and about.

            Usually I can buy a cooked roast chicken quarter or pack of cooked sliced meat and tomatoes/peppers/salad mix and make myself an alfresco meal or picnic in the car. I always make sure I have some legal dressing in my 'emergency pack' in case I cant buy some.

            Hardboiled eggs will keep for a day or so if you leave them in the shell.
            Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
            Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



            Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





            F/60 yrs/5ft 5.5" (Though due to collapsing vertebrae I am now only 5'3" - but I refuse to recalculate my BMI )

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            • #7
              Re: It was only one piece of bread....

              I take day trips and I've been on multiple day business trips. Eating away from home means you need to be more aware of the food choices you have to make. When a platter of filled donuts are in front of you, it's up to you to tear your eyes away and look for legal, healthful food. Ditto for that lasagna on the menu.

              Personally, I've never had a problem finding legal food--especially on OWL-- because it's there if you take the time to look for it.
              ~Megs~
              242/141/160 (130)
              dress size 26/10/8
              5'4", Female, May 2, 2003
              My blog:
              http://mformiscellaneous.blogspot.com/

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              • #8
                Re: It was only one piece of bread....

                I think that looking for and finding what is good to eat is so much better than settling for what is not good to eat just because you are hungry ...hang in my dear you will get it ...

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                • #9
                  Re: It was only one piece of bread....

                  Originally posted by Heidi3
                  I think that looking for and finding what is good to eat is so much better than settling for what is not good to eat just because you are hungry ...hang in my dear you will get it ...
                  I agree!!

                  Frankly, the irony ...it really isn't hard - it is all a matter of focus!!

                  - Thinker
                  THINKER!!

                  SW: 310; CW: 230; GW: 190

                  Mid-40s 6'0"

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                  • #10
                    Re: It was only one piece of bread....

                    Originally posted by Thinker
                    I agree!!

                    Frankly, the irony ...it really isn't hard - it is all a matter of focus!!

                    - Thinker
                    ok then this hug is for you

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                    • #11
                      Re: It was only one piece of bread....

                      Originally posted by Heidi3
                      ok then this hug is for you
                      I feel warm all over!
                      THINKER!!

                      SW: 310; CW: 230; GW: 190

                      Mid-40s 6'0"

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