So Whats Wrong With My Diet?

[Atkid]

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If your way of eating works for you I say Great! Just don't call it Atkins!

[2big4mysize]

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every wonder why Slimfast stays in business? they give y9u a very restricted way to eat and then when you get to goal beacuse you have been eating meals from cans and bars you have no idea how to deal with real foods in the real world and portion control and the rest of the things needed to learn in order to keep the weight off so you return to your previous ways of eating and poof you regain the weight but that is okay cause you can just do slimfast againthe repetative use of the product is what keeps them in business.

Atkins is different because we learn during the great food experiemnt part of Atkins known as OWL what foods our metabolism can handle what foods we can't handel from a craving generating and complusive overeating standpoint. We learn how to stop our cravings and learn signals our bodies are sending about needing or wanting foods and how to avoid those situations through months of practice eatin in correct portions and learning to feed just our hunger and stopping so when we get to goal and you will get there and losew your appetite suppression of deep ketosis we can use self control to maintain our goal weigh and not be those 9 out of 10 goalies who gain it back.

So be brave and move to OWL rung one 5 more net carbs of those healthy induction veggies cna't hurt you and will help you begin the learning process that will keep you a goalie when you get there.

happy low carbing

[djfmf]

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i do have a plan on changing my diet once i reach 145lbs... but it's not what you think or expect. when i get down to 145 i plan on adding frults, juice and milk back into my diet. so with breakfast for example i would have a small carton of milk along with a bananna and omlette. lunch would be a salad with low carb dressing, grilled chicken breast and some orange juice. dinner would be some sort of boiled vegetable, a steak(or whatever they serve) and maybe some deli slices. it's just an example of how i have planned out, don't jump to conclusions yet people. i'm already and active and fit person and when i reach 145 i'll be in much better shape so i shouldn't see any weight gain. i'm still going to limit my carb intake by avoiding rice, pasta, bread etc... most of the time. the reward system, what will happen to it? i'm going to tweak it once more at that point. i'll still have it for one meal out of the week, but im going to eat the way my diet plan is. the new catch this time is to substitute one item for something i would like on my reward day, should i choose to opt for it. so if i wanted a slice a cheesecake i can have one as long as i substituded something else in it's place. or if i wanted an actual sandwich i can substitute that as well. i won't be overloading on carbs anymore on my reward day in otherwords. i'm not even sure of what diet i'll be on by then, but it's going to be much healthier since i'll be adding new stuff in it. until then i'll still follow the atkins style approach of my diet.

[G-Mom]

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You know, I think using food for a reward is a surefire way to never correct your problems with food. We need to think of food as fuel, and reward ourselves some other way, like with new running shoes or something. You say you don't even feel the need to eat those "reward" foods. Why do you do it?

No matter what you say, jumping back and forth from glycosis to ketosis is terrible for your body, and you are doing yourself a major disservice, and like 2Big says, playing with fire concerning your blood sugar.

BTW, PLEASE USE SPACES!!! Reading your posts are like listening to a neverending run-on sentence. You can do it, just hit -enter- once in awhile, thank you.

[Heidi3]

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I am just curious why you came to the Atkins board? there is a low carb board as well..

[2big4mysize]

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from your last post I really have to believe you have not reads the book. I can eat everything you plan to have plus what you plan not to have and could have done so in OWL waybefore I hit goal. DO yourself a favor and read the book so you at least know what you are talking about.

As GMom said using food for a reward is setting youtself up for a life time of over eating. Our brains are very complex things and they file and cross referrence foods feelings and emotions, and how the fod makes you feel during and after eating. Many foods minic neurotransmitters in the brain and your Dr Brain will be prescribing then for curing stress blues angry worry just about anything and if you are a complusive over eater you are giving your Dr Brain all the fuel it needs to set you up for a pattern of failure. Atkineers learn by living the grewat food experimnet part of Atkins with the control of deep ketosis in OWL how to fight Dr Brain successfully and use nonfoods and low carb foods to deal with theses issuse.

Since you have devised your own low carb plan why would you want to hang on our Atkins only board? we have a low carb sister board you can access at the bottom of our board with a link to them that you could post on and they unklike us would agree with your plan 100%

[djfmf]

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You say you don't even feel the need to eat those "reward" foods. Why do you do it?

BTW, PLEASE USE SPACES!!! Reading your posts are like listening to a neverending run-on sentence. You can do it, just hit -enter- once in awhile, thank you.

Like I said I don't need to reward myself, I just made the decision it's as simple as that. I don't miss carbs or sweets, I don't have cravings or withdrawl symptoms that you might expect me to have. Doesn't it shock a lot of people on why I'm rewarding myself the way I do? I do it because I can, I know that when I eat that meal I can go back onto my regular diet just like "that" and continue on.

Other people may find it harder and think it defeats the purpose but let's remember that I've already lost the majority of the weight that I intended to lose. It still doesn't justify the fact that I should do this to myself but I'm a different person than you and I have a different way of losing weight my way. My metabolism is working wonders for me and so is all the effort I put into exercise. Since I weigh myself constantly throughout the day and monitor my food intake I see gradual weight loss.

I follow Atkins rules now to a certain extent and use it more like a guideline when it comes to choosing my meals for the day. You don't have to agree with how I'm doing the diet, that's fine with me. I just don't need people telling me I'm doing it wrong even though the I'm still losing weight. I'm just happy that I'm able to lose weight, that's all. Like I said before, Atkins Diet changed my life.

Just to let you know when I did lose a whole lot of weight I threw away all my fat clothes and bought proper fitting clothes as a reward. When I come back from Iraq I'll be doing the same exact thing. I'm also a lazy person when I'm typing, it's my bust. I'll try to space my really long rants in the future and using a capitol in the beginning of the sentence, but I'm happy you pointed that out even though I knew my own flaw.

I have 30 minutes till dinner and I will probably hit the mexican bar at the chow hall. Some Chicken and Beef Fajita Meat, some lettuce, tomato, onion, cheese, black olives, jalapenos and sour cream is what i'm having that's for sure. I wish I could make meals out here in Iraq but I can't, we don't have that type of facility. I'm just glad we have a cafeteria that has all sorts of food to feed our certain needs.

Every night they have a theme, like wednesday is surf and turf night(for example: lobster and steak). We have a sandwich bar with all the meats, cheese and trimmings, a pasta bar for people who crave spaghetti, a mexican bar(as I wrote earlier), a pizza bar, a salad bar, a fast food line(cheeseburgers, hot dogs etc...), a make-it yourself stir fry line, a regular meal line and a dessert bar. It's pretty much like a Wal-Mart sized buffet type of place. Eating food like this makes Iraq that much easier to cope with.

[djfmf]

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Since you have devised your own low carb plan why would you want to hang on our Atkins only board? we have a low carb sister board you can access at the bottom of our board with a link to them that you could post on and they unklike us would agree with your plan 100%

I feel like i'm being kicked to the curb with this comment. I come here for advice and tips I can use on my diet even though you may not think it's Atkins, I did lose weight on Atkins. I don't see what the whole big deal is, I'm not forcing anyone to do what I'm doing. It sucks that you can't agree with how I'm living my life but you should accept that and focus more on your life and your goals on losing weight. Is that too much to ask?

There is a lot of good info on this site that i apply to my diet and how i lose weight and that's why i chose an atkins board. not some south beach diet or other low carb forum, i already know what to do when it comes to losing weight on Atkins, even though it may seem i'm losing it the wrong way or defeating the purpose. I'll ask for help when i need it, for now i'll just read up and get ideas on how i can better myself on my diet ok?

[Jasmain]

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I agree with 2big, and as I said previously, it's more about making waves and seeing the number of responses, I think. No one who was truly looking for something that fit with the way they believed and wanted support to make it easier would go to a site and hang around stirring people up when there were other boards out there that fit in with the very thing they are doing, where they would find positive support for their way of eating, and get a pat on the back for their accomplishments.

Picture this..
You smoke, and you want to quit, and you're needy for attention.
So what do you do?
You find a site for ex smokers and talk about how you let yourself smoke a cigarette occassionally if you've been good and not smoked all week, tell them they should try it, cause it worked for you, and if it doesn't work for them, they must be doing it wrong, and you think it should be okay to smoke occassionally, cause look at all the different kinds of cigarettes that are out there, and they taste soooo good and why shouldn't you be able to reward yourself every once in a while with a great tasting cigarette? No matter that you've got cancer, or can't breathe or whatever.

Of course, they have great advice for not smoking, so you stick around, and besides, they all pay attention to you (bad attention)!

Anyone else see something wrong with this picture? I don't think djfmf will get it, so I really hope someone out there does. I don't believe djfmf cares about anything other than the attention. It's rather scary, the posts.... The behavior is odd, to say the least.

[G-Mom]

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Dj, please don't be offended by 2big's statement. She is not berating you, she is just telling you that you may find a better niche in a low carb board since what you are doing now is not Atkins.

[ladyinred]

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You can also read everything here for tips and advice without trying to sell people on your woe. If it works for you great! But as has been said before, your way won't work for most people. Also, your way is not following DANDR 2002. We have made it pretty clear that this site is for those who wish to follow DANDR 2002 and we are strictly by the book. There are lots of newbies here who may be confused by your "system". You are more than welcome to hang around and get advice. That's what we are here for, but why are you adamant about us understanding your woe and giving you a seal of approval? I like Jasmain's analogy. It's like you're coming here and saying "nyanyanya nya nya - I can do this and you caa-aan't". Which is not very supportive IMO. But good for you for finding something that works for you.

[cristylp]

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I've read all this and wanted to comment but 2big, LIR, Jasmain and everyone else has said it all quite clearly. I applaud your success but you're just trying to stir things up with your comments. If you're really wanting support, find the low carb board.

[Blackdiamonds77]

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Heidi, you're funny!
On the subject though, I stand behind the people stressing that this is an Atkins Board that isn't modified. I'm glad things are working for you, but for health reasons it's probably way more beneficial to stick with the plan!

[Lyssie]

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Jasmain, I don't think that's what he's doing. He's not trying to tell any of us that this is the way we should eat. In fact, he said that if he were going to give any advice that he would do so in accordance with DANDR, no? If he has lost all this weight on induction, then he could actually be a good source of inspiration for people who say that they can't do this WOE, or various other things. Obviously he did and it worked for him. Saying that he shouldn't be allowed to give advice on these things is kinda like saying that anybody who's had a cheat shouldn't be allowed to give advice.

I agree that I think he should move up the rungs instead of just adding it as a meal once a week. The theory behind the rungs, if I'm not mistaken, was that if your body copes with eating things (like the juice, milk, bananas) that you could eat them on a daily basis, and it would still be Atkins. I think his path is just a little off from Dr. Atkins' but the destination is the same. The reason Atkins does it with the rungs was so that you knew what your body could handle or not handle with a kind of net to catch you instead of just plummeting into high-carb land and hoping you could handle it.

The smoking analogy is wrong, and I really don't think that personal attacks on someone's behavior are supportive, and that's what this board is supposed to be about. I think that if he's going to jump into doing it this way, that it isn't Atkins, and should look into a different BB, but I think that we should still support people who have lost that much weight doing Atkins induction.

I'm sorry if parts of this post jump back and forth, I bought this strawberry deodorant last night because it smelled all yummy and it's a little distracting. I think I'm going to go lick my armpits now.

[cmcole]

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Or, you could try Protein Power - choose what you want to eat, as long as it stays within a carb limit (that's a nut-shell version, and doesn't give particulars). Of course, they prefer you not have sugars, starches, grains (especially the processed types), but you are not restricted from the start, and can have fruits, etc.

They have both a website and a forum, plus the authors both have blogs with relevant information.

You may find more comfort with alternative choices and opinions, as you are developing your own lifestyle and diet, and those choices are definitely yours.

I know that during my military training, I was limited to whatever the mess hall served, but I always seemed to be able to find SOMETHING I could have that didn't go outside the boundaries I had set for myself, based on the Atkins recommendations.

You may find, as you progress through OWL, that you will not see foods as a "reward", but as a means to an end - that of providing your body with the fuel you need to keep it going, especially in the heat of your current location.

Best wishes in your journey to health, though. I applaud your dedication which has resulted in your weight loss. However, I wonder how the varying degrees of blood sugar readings will catch up with you, especially once you return to the US and your days are not quite as intense?