I hate to stir this up but it's bugging me

[Barbde]

http://www.atkinsdietbulletinboard.c...ad.php?t=35595

Not necessisarily this thread in particular, but for example.
The guy was just ASKING a question... not looking for any blessings.
A simple answer would have been
"Yes, you will need to come back and restart induction until you are back into ketosis, then continue your former eating plan from there".
He is living in his reality. He knows what he is going to do, and was wondering how to recouperate afterwards.
Come on.
I understand this board is "by the book". I also know that I saw in the book how to recoup from a binge. A simple answer without the attacking would have been sufficient.
Not everyone is perfect. I bet if an anonymous survery was done, most of us have NOT been perfect in this journey.
I learned Forest did not read the book, OK? But regardless. If he had read the book, and understood the rungs but was confused, he would have been treated the same way. I think it was terrible.
What? We can't mention pizza in this forum for fear of tempting someone? Do a search of the word "Pizza" and see how many thousands of results you get.
Ridiculous, if you ask me.
If this is an example of the "Cheat Police" in action, well then...... all I can say is

[jennyj]

Re: I hate to stir this up but it's bugging me

I'm too new to say what you did, Barb, but all I can say is . Thanks for saying what I've been too chicken to.
~Jen~

[presidentholmes]

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Ooooooh I hadn't read that forum, very interesting.
From what I read, only one person was downright rude and she's downright rude to people regularly, so I expected it.
But as soon as the guy said he hadn't read the book, I had to abandon any trace of feelings I may have had for him as he got lots of folks heckles up and he's not probably not even on Atkins at all!!!
It's like when one of these experts in real life starts lecturing me how Atkins is awful and they haven't even read the book and are talking a load of b******t.
Yeah my heckles get up too and rightly so.
If the guy (and he seems to be a nice guy) was genuinely giving Atkins a go, then maybe I'd have more compassion for him but, nice guy though he is, he's just another flamer.
The moderators have a job too here and tough love does actually work.
Barbde, I've been looking at the pic of you with the long blond hair, not the one beside it...you're looking great!

I seem to keep missing the arguments on here, as this was the first I've seen and even this one had to be pointed out to me! LOL
From what I understand, the cheat police are gonna crack down on peeps who have cheated and who feel sorry for themselves.
You gotta get the pilot right back in the cockpit, you gotta get the rider right back on the horse.

[presidentholmes]

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How did this get moved to the main forum?
i think this is best suited to chit-chat where it was originally posted.

[Barbde]

Re: I hate to stir this up but it's bugging me

Nobody moved it. I posted it here where the original post was.
And I agree, this guy may have been asking for trouble. However, it is not an uncommon question. And always dealt with in the same way.
Just sad, I think.

[Bren]

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Barb, I DO understand where you are coming from. He asked his question and it was answered. AS I stated in my post very near to the closing of the thread. I had my problem with the fact that it was a planned cheat and those that told him to go ahead and do it.
My last post was to hopefully open some eyes and make people think before they tell someone it is ok to cheat. It is NOT ok. And that was a point I wanted to make.
YES.......cheats happen. But, let's make them a learning experience. I see a big difference between a planned cheat and one that happens and as I stated in my post I have alot of respect for the people that pick themselves and dust themselves off and continue on with the program. Especially when they fight with their demons on a daily basis, it is not an easy road. But, nothing worthwhile is ever easy. I have read too many posts of people desperate to be thin, desperate to be healthy. You can see it in the posts and I do know what it feels like, as do most of us.
I believe I will remove the "cheat police" icon from my signature as I think it has been taken out of context. BUT, I will not stop trying to help those struggling along here either. Every post I see where someone has cheated I try and help them to figure out why.
My goal here is to help those struggling, to applaud those succeeding and to share this journey with everyone looking for help.

I believe another problem was we waited to long to lock the post, for that I apologize.

[Bren]

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I just want to add here. I think this is a topic where we all have very strong feelings and I do want to stress............

We agree to disagree and respect each other. We all have different views/opinions and IMHO that is what makes this place great!!



no lol lol lol. I just love those two slappers.

[Barbde]

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OK, first reply from an "admin"

No comment, as I can not condone a cheat I'm afraid. A cheat is a cheat planned or not.


He was not asking for anyone to "condone" anything. It appeared he was aware the choice he was making. Come on... NO ONE ELSE HAS EVER DONE THAT??
REALLY?
But this same admin has said that bread is never to be had on Atkins, right??
GIMME a break!

[Heidi3]

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Oh it is so not fair that rung 5 started with out me again!!!!

[Heidi3]

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I am serious that is the worst part of living on the west coast ..I am all these hours behind you with my activities

[Heidi3]

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some one please call me next time k?

[Heidi3]

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ok who is rude ..please say it is not me being rude? am I rude?

[Barbde]

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I just dont' get the strong feelings about answering a simple question.

I guess my problem is that is how I was met when I first found this board. A Mod with a Gun being rude. Rudeness runs off a lot of people too you guys.

Sheesh.

I agree to disagree and I don't need to you around Bren.

I just want to add here. I think this is a topic where we all have very strong feelings and I do want to stress............

We agree to disagree and respect each other. We all have different views/opinions and IMHO that is what makes this place great!!



no lol lol lol. I just love those two slappers.

[Bren]

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But this same admin has said that bread is never to be had on Atkins, right??
GIMME a break!

I said that? Shoot......... if I did I was wrong and I will be the first to admit it. Not in induction though.

Again Barb, I agree with you 100% the thread should have died after Forest got his answer, which is in the book.

[presidentholmes]

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LOL
Heidi, you're never rude, your advice is always absolutely spot-on.
Barbde, yup, I agree, there's a way to say things to people without belittling them.
Bren, you always do a great job, you can't please all of the people all of the time.
Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could all meet up and go for dinner or get drunk or get naked or summit...(ok, maybe that's a dream I had last night)