tobacco question

[nt2b4gtn]

i know its bad for u but do u think that wintergreen snuff can stall weight loss?

[sadie147]

Re: tobacco question

i can't see that it would...unless it somehow raises your blood sugar, but i don't think it would.

Interesting question actually.

[nt2b4gtn]

Re: tobacco question

ive done alot of research and chewing tobacco says it has sugars but dipping snuff seems to not have them, i have just stalled out, i lost 10 pounds during the first week of induction then nothing the last week, i was just wondering if this could be the cause

[cocobelle]

Re: tobacco question

There's two types of the wintergreen snuff out there - one is finely ground tobacco that is flavored ... the other is ground up mint leaves, that is also flavored - which are you using?

[WarOnTypeII]

Re: tobacco question

http://www.vanderbilt.edu/AnS/psycho...y/nicotine.htm

Although much research has been done on the harmful effects on nicotine and other substances found in tobacco, information on nicotine as an appetite suppressant is still limited. However, some experiments have been performed to test nicotine's effect on body weight, many examining the effects of weight gain after smoking cessation. Here are four important studies which help in understanding nicotine's effect on body weight. For more studies, refer to the Reference section.

One study by L. Arcavi, P. Jacob 3rd, M. Hellerstein, & NL Benowitz, 1994, evaluated the divergent tolerance to metabolic and cardiovascular effect in smokers with low and high levels of nicotine consumption. Experimenters were interested in the fact that cigarette smokers weigh less on average than nonsmokers, and that among smokers, however, those who smoke the most weigh the most. By investigating the effects of intravenous nicotine and cigarette smoking in low and high level smokers, they found that both increased heart rate and energy expenditure in lowlevel smokers was slightly higher. The effects of intravenous nicotine and smoking were of similar magnitude, confirming the fact that the effects of smoking are mediated by nicotine. The study found that there is evidence of "differential development or rate of loss of tolerance to cardiovascular versus metabolic effects of nicotine in low versus high level smokers. Pharmacodynamic differences between low and high level smokers may explain the unusual relationship between cigarette consumption and weight gain."

Another study in the Journal of Applied Psychology by KA Parkins, 1992, examined the metabolic effects of cigarette smoking. Parkins was interested in the inverse relationship between cigarette smoking and body weight, which has long been a strong obstacle to smoking cessation. He hypothesized that this relationship may be due in part to the effects of smoking on increasing whole body metabolism. After review various past studies, evidence suggested that there was an absence in chronic metabolic effect, indicating that most smokers and nonsmokers have similar resting metabolic rates, and that this RMR declines very little after smoking cessation. Although an acute effect is due to smoking, its magnitude varies across studies possibly due to variant smoke exposure and nicotine intake. Although Sympoathoadrenal activation by nicotine is responsible for the metabolic effect of smoking, his conclusions combne ths effect with a behavioral aspect to weight gain. Specific situations in which smokers tend to smoke may mediate the magnitude of the effect, insomuch as as smoking during casual physical activity may enhance it while smoking after eating may reduce it.

One study in the American Journal of Physiology tested the metabolic interactions between surplus dietary intake and cigarette smoking or its cessation. (Neese RA., Benowitz NL., Hoh R., Faix D., LaBua A., Pun K., & Hellerstein MK, 1994) Considering the idea that cigarette smoking (CS) alters lipid metabolism and is associated with the hardening of the arteries, experimenters assumed that CS stimulates lipolysis without increasing oxidation of fat and that cessation of CS does not result in a rebound tendency to synthesize or store fat. Evaluating eight heavy male subjects over a seven day time period, experimenters asked whether intake of surplus dietary energy taken ad libitum or when desired interacts with the metabolic effects of CS or its cessation. The study concluded that contrary to previous suggestons, cessation of CS does not result in a rebound tendency to synthesis or storage of fat. Furthermore, stimulation of lipolysis by CS does not increase the oxidation of fat and thus protect against fat deposition under conditions of surplus energy intake. Finally, they concluded that the prevention of weight gain after cessation, whether or not nicotine is provided, should focus on energy balance rather than specific alterations in lipid metabolism.

Probably the most important study done in evaluating the use of nicotine as an appetite suppressant is found in the Journal of Substance Abuse entitled " The Female weight control smoker: a profile". (Pomerleau CS., Ehrlich E., Tate JC., Marks JL., Flessiand KA., & Pomerleau OF, 1993) The experimenters hypothesized that the existence of a subgroup of female smokers for whom nicotine hides, and abstinence shows, a tendency toward hyperphagia and even underlying disordered eating. Experimenters compared female "weight-controlled smokers" (WC) and "non-weight-control smokers" (NWC) on smoking and eating -related variables, while also looking at the relationship between weight control smoking and withdrawal symptomatology during 48-hours of nicotine abstinence. Although WC were not more depressed or anxious than NWC, they were more likely to report weight gain and increased hunger during abstinence. Experimenters found that weight correlated with increased eating during abstinence. Findings suggest that WC's use dietary restraint as well as smoking to control weight, and abstinence perhaps precipitates episodes of disinhibited or binge eating. Thus reinforcing the behavioral perspective of nicotine as an effective dietary control.

I don't know if this hurts or helps. It seems that the overall effect of nicotine is .... variant .... on the individual's metabolism.

Induction is used to radically change the way our bodies metabolize "things".

So the answer is ...

"I don't know".



I know when quit dipping last year I gained almost 40 lbs (in about 9 months).

But that was me eating and not paying attention. It would have been interesting to start Atkins AND quit dipping at the same time. But I'm afraid I couldn't find the brass pair for that.



Good Luck

[nt2b4gtn]

Re: tobacco question

the ground up tobacco kind not the mint non tobacco