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  • What if it has all been a big fat lie?

    How poor research has hoisted upon us a "sensible" diet that is low in fat and by doing so, has actually caused the very thing it was trying to prevent. As a result over the past 1/2 century we have seen an increase in the rates of obesity, heart disease, diabetes, cancer, and a host of other ailments.

    It is really enough to make you angry, but I would highly recommend to anyone that is following the Atkins WOE to read the book 'Good Calories, Bad Calories' by Gary Taubes. It will confirm what most of us here on ADBB already know and will help you understand even more why that diets that are low carb and higher in fat are in fact the way that we were designed to live, and that the "conventional wisdom" of low fat diets, which by their very nature are high in carbohydrates are changing the environments within our bodies to where we are storing fat rather than burning it, and aiding in the very diseases that is supposed to be preventing.

    I am in the process of reading it right now and can't put it down. It gives lots of credence to why Dr. Atkins and others were/are right on the money with regards to this WOE/WOL. I will say that it is pretty deep and hard to follow at times and that I do not agree with his interpretation 100% on some things, but none the less it is very eye opening.

    Because of this board, I am really beginning to learn and this is just one more thing that I found out about here on ADBB. Thanks to those that recommended that I get the book!
    Don


    Before @ 360 At Goal 200


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    Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

    Yes, amazing book. I think I said Wow, amazing, unbelievable, that makes sense, etc. dozens of times while reading that book. His book completely galvanized my thinking on diet.
    Start 7/5/2004

    290/205/204

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      Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

      That post made me want to read it. Thanks!


      It is nice seeing a picture where I actually have a neck!

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        Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

        I've heard of the book but haven't read it. I will have to pick up a copy!

        I think you are right, though. I have this conversation all the time with DBF! What is really infuriating to me is that not only have we been taught for so long that high carb, low fat is the healthy way but we have also had to deal with 'experts' saying that a low carb, high fat diet is unhealthy. Sigh. When will this mindset change? There is more low fat food in the grocery stores than ever but more obese people. Certainly this has quite a lot to do with our modern culture where we aren't very active as a general rule but it also has a lot to do with what we think is healthy.

        There was a segment on the news here recently about people choosing what they think are healthy breakfast options (such as low fat blueberry muffins) but really those things are packed with sugar and not at all healthy! I eat bacon and eggs for breakfast and know I am doing better (and having a tastier meal!) than those people!
        ~Amy~

        5'7", 24 years old
        (Re-)Starting Weight- 225-- Current Weight- 164.5 -- Goal Weight- 150

        1st mini goal- 200lbs : Met 5 March 2008!l 2nd mini goal- 185lbs : Met 3 December 2008!l 3rd mini goal- 170lbs: Met 5 February 2009! l 4th mini goal- 160lbs l Goal!- 150lbs




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          Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

          I've heard the book mentioned a couple of times here and I'm really interested to read it. Now even more so! Great post!
          F 24 5'10 SW - 217 GW 170 restarted atkins 1/14/08 - This time I'm sticking with it!




          1st pic Pre restarting atkins @ 217 lbs. 2nd pic 20 lbs lighter @ 197 lbs! on 3/1/08
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            Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

            i am putting it on my reading list for sure. and yea, you sure did do a great job losing all that weight following a terrible, awful diet my friend. YOU are AMAZING!!! can't wait to see the new tux photos.....you look like a model for cologne or something!!





            started atkins 2/18/07
            5'7"........193/150/150

            "it's not having what you want; it's wanting what you've got"
            "you can't control the ocean but you can learn to ride the wave."

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              Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

              I love this book thus far and my hubby even bought a copy for his mom - she's a healthy weight and avid exerciser and low-fat eater and recently had heart troubles (2 heart attacks) thought it doesn't run in her family. Yet her husband is about 400 lbs and eats terribly and his heart is fine - so I think hes hoping they both might consider this WOE.

              Another point that lowfat folks will tell you is - lowfat works, but no one follows it. Well even when you look at "bad/high fat" junk food.. its also HIGH CARB so its really illogical to label the fat the culprit:

              - Burgers (buns, fillers, sugary sauces)
              - Fries
              - Soda
              - Chips
              - Ice Cream

              Its all high carb food and they blame the fat with so little proof. And if they came out and admitted they were wrong and lowfat isn't correct, think of all the big businesses who make a fortune off of weight troubles that would be screwed: pharmacueticals, weight loss groups like WW and JC, diet pills/shakes/food makers, the medical industry, makers of both high-carb junk food and high-carb diet food, etc.
              Start: 162.0 | Current: 161.0 | Goal: 120 | Age/Height: 25/4'9" | RESTART DATE: 09-01-2008 | PHASE: Induction



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                Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

                I posted this link a few weeks ago, but newer members might be interested in watching it.
                Here is a webcast of a lecture given by Gary Taubes to the School of public health at UC Berkeley
                http://webcast.berkeley.edu/event_de...ebcastid=21216
                It is quite long but for those who havent got the book (or like my husband) just dont find reading scientific/technical books easy it is well worth the time spent watching it.
                Wondering how to get 'most' of your net carbs from your induction veggies?
                Take a look at the thread from the latest Veggie Challenge to see how others manage it!



                Check out our Low Carb Recipes website and add to it!!





                F/60 yrs/5ft 5.5" (Though due to collapsing vertebrae I am now only 5'3" - but I refuse to recalculate my BMI )

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                  Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

                  Originally posted by misplaced southerner
                  you look like a model for cologne or something!!
                  Actually, I am! The cologne is called Eau de Ketosis! I'm not sure who makes it. I just know it isn't S.T. Larder!!! LOL

                  Elisellen, thanks for the link. I am having a hard time following lots of the technical stuff as well.
                  Don


                  Before @ 360 At Goal 200

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                    Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

                    I am currently rereading this book, and more slowly. It was so stunning and so mind altering the first time that I kept rushing forward to the next bits before thinking over what I read, this time I am going slow and thinking more as I read.

                    I really, really urge people to read it. It won't just change what you think about eating and nutrition, but about health generally and it will also make you look very carefully at anything that is put forward as 'fact' by so-called experts.

                    Two of the most revealing and fascinating (if also somewhat scary) things it shows are how people who are very expert and very close to a topic can so often fail to see the woods for the trees, and how the experts who are called upon to make pronouncements and decisions which have a far reaching effect on society often are not that expert at all and/or are pushing agendas.

                    The world of science is very political, full of clicques and inner circles and people who are terribly protective of their own patches. They don't always have the greater good at the forefront of their minds.

                    I honestly believe that every doctor, no matter what their discipline, and every person who is involved in creating or contributing to health policy formulation should be MADE to read this book. Whether they agree with it's central thesis or not is almost irrelevant - it might at least encourage them to approach their decision making in a more open minded fashion.
                    Kate




                    F, 50, 5'5 Start: Sept 5th 2007
                    Start Weight: 255
                    MG1: 238 Sept 23rd
                    MG2: 224 Oct 23rd
                    MG3: 210 Dec 3rd
                    MG4: 196 Jan 26th
                    MG5: 182
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                    "Everyone is entitled to an informed opinion."

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                      Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

                      there was a great episode of king of the hill on this past sunday. It was about their town banning trans fats.... the part of that episode that relates to this story is that the character bill got so scared about trans fats that he ate nothing but these low fat diet foods that were fat free, insisting they were healthy to eat because that's what the government told him. Well throughout the episode he was going through these crashes in energy and at the end gained a lot of weight.



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                        Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

                        I've been meaning to read this book since i started this WOE, but now Ive moved it up to the top of my reading list...looks like a trip to the bookstore is on my list tonight
                        Holly
                        26, female, 5'6"

                        Start Date 1/17/08
                        Reinduction Date 4/12/2010
                        Restart SW215/CW206/GW160


                        Mini Goal 1: 210 <--new book; made! 4/19
                        Mini Goal 2: 199 <--spa!
                        Mini Goal 3: 185 <--out of obesity BMI!

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                          Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

                          i ordered this book from my library so hopefully itll be drive thru ready after work.


                          Restart: DEC. 16th, 2009 (why wait for Christmas)

                          Mini Goals:
                          240 :

                          MAIN GOAL :
                          180lbs


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                            Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

                            Originally posted by Elizellen
                            I posted this link a few weeks ago, but newer members might be interested in watching it.
                            It is quite long but for those who havent got the book (or like my husband) just dont find reading scientific/technical books easy it is well worth the time spent watching it.
                            Thank you so much for posting that link. I just finished watching it. Wow... that is about all I can formulate for words right now. lol Absolutely amazing.


                            It is nice seeing a picture where I actually have a neck!

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                              Re: What if it has all been a big fat lie?

                              OMG, I am absolutely IN LOVE with Gary Taubes.

                              I have to say that the book is AWESOME and yet its maddening when you realize what a bill of goods we have been sold by the FDA and others. Its OUTRAGEOUS. The more I read in this book, the madder I get. And the madder I get, the more determined I am to spread the TRUTH that its NOT saturated fat that is the enemy and ultimate RISK to our health! Shame on our government, shame on the FDA, shame on the AHA, the ADA, Dean Ornish and all the low-fat dogma-teers!

                              Betty
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