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    Hold the (extra) mayo!

    I have been good on Induction and now Rung 1. Still changing habits:

    Made a salad with romaine, some peppers and some cukes. A couple broccoli pieces. I then made a tuna salad (white tuna and mayo with some spices) and put that on top. Looked like a restaurant made it. Used my new salad spinner to get the water off, pretty cool.
    Put the plate on the table and punched the meal into fitday.com which I have been using. Whoops way too many fat cals and total cals! Mayo is generally good on Atkins, and the Doc said don't count cals as much as carbs, but I had made the tuna the way I was used to. I saw the total on fitday and thought...wow I should not have eaten that!
    Good news: I looked down and except for a couple bites, it was all still on the plate. I took it over to the sink and rinsed it all off leaving the raw tuna and the salad stuff. Took it back to the table and I put a couple tablespoons of blue cheese dressing on the whole salad. Updated fitday.

    In the past I would have wolfed it down and said next time.
    Headed out to work out.
    Glenn
    240/231/198
    6'1"
    01/09/10
    Goal 1: 229
    Goal 2: 219
    Goal 3: 209
    Goal 4: 198
    Goal 5: Maintain @195-198
    Tags: hold, mayo!
  • #2
    Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

    Good for you! This is about changing our bad eating habits and learning new ones. When I have the time, I like to put my food in Fitday before I eat it, just to make sure. I am getting pretty good at balancing my meals in my head, but I like to make sure.
    Do you eat to your BMR?? I have been reading about that online, and mine is 1478, but I usually only eat about 1200. I am not sure if I should eat more calories, or not. What do you think??
    Try to get 80-100 ounces a day!

    Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, you're right.

    5'4 33 yr old

    sw170/cw155/gw135

    Owl Rung 1

    re-started atkins 6/22/08




    Stewie Rocks!!

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    • #3
      Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

      good job for being more aware of what goes on the plate!
      ~Lisa~
      F, 37, 5' 7", Medium Frame
      I've been to the edge of 240something and I ain't going back!
      CW: 188
      GW: 165
      1st Goal: 180
      2nd Goal: 175
      3rd Goal: 170
      Final Goal: 165
      "You get what you put into it..."

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      • #4
        Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

        Thanks...
        I usually plan my day in fitday but I slipped up and was winging it kinda almost nearly well anyway.
        I am eating <1000 cals a day per fitday with a couple days up around 2000 before I started watching it. Not hungry; happy. Per fitday my Basal is 2053 and my lifestyle is 1335. I figure I am exercising on the bike or in the gym to take away about 700-800 lately. So ... Is this what you mean by BMR?
        Hope that does not confuse more than it helps.
        Glenn
        240/231/198
        6'1"
        01/09/10
        Goal 1: 229
        Goal 2: 219
        Goal 3: 209
        Goal 4: 198
        Goal 5: Maintain @195-198

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        • #5
          Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

          Are you saying you are only eating <1000 cals a day or did i misunderstand that? If so you are not eating nearly enough for a 6'1" male.

          If your basal is 2053 that is the minimum amount of calories your body needs just to breathe/exist. If you are working out in a gym your definately not leading a sedentary lifestyle.

          you should right now just be concentrating on your carb amounts, making sure you keep your fats up, and eating only until your full. don't do any calorie counting at this point.

          It's great that your trying to control your eating etc, however eating too few calories can have detrimental effects on any woe.

          Hope this helps.
          Jen, 39, F
          In maintenance



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          • #6
            Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

            Gman, I agree with Jen. You should be eating near your BMR to lose safely and keep your metabolism up. Otherwise you may be burning muscle along with your fat and your metabolism will eventually drop like a stone.
            JILL

            HW 298
            HW (this time) 248
            GOAL ONE 228             (take 2)
            GOAL TWO 213 (personal goal)
            GOAL THREE 199 ONE-DERLAND
            FINAL GOAL 165

             It's not about the results. Its about the process.

            "I've never come home after a workout and said, MAN, I wish I had NOT exercised today!"



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            • #7
              Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

              Jen & Jill-
              Thanks for your alert I appreciate it. While I am clearly building up muscle from working out, I see your point, I could be losing it in some places. And the numbers do not make sense.

              I went to: BMR Calculator
              and it says about 3500 is my BMR based on stats and exercise level.

              My problem could be in using fitday.com ... does it show only total carbs not net carbs?

              I built a sample day and I only get to 2000 calories. with ratios of 65/5/30. With 27 carbs I get <2000 cals.

              Total: 1941 Fat: 137 1229 64% Sat: 44 392 21% Poly: 34 303 16% Mono: 46 416 22% Carbs: 27 89 5% Fiber: 4 0 0% Protein: 149 594 31% Alcohol: 0 0 0%

              Should I be using something like this for net carbs:
              Carbs in Peppers - Carb Counter
              By raising the carb count I would of course raise the total cals.

              I typed the menu on p. 133 into fitday and got 24 carbs and <1700 cals:

              Total: 1673 Fat: 105 944 58% Sat: 36 326 20% Poly: 14 126 8% Mono: 42 379 23% Carbs: 24 66 4% Fiber: 7 0 0% Protein: 155 621 38% Alcohol: 0 0 0%

              This should be fine for OWL Rung 1 right?

              I think I need to get in sync on how to measure and use these tools. Any suggestions would be more than welcomed.

              Thanks
              Glenn
              240/231/198
              6'1"
              01/09/10
              Goal 1: 229
              Goal 2: 219
              Goal 3: 209
              Goal 4: 198
              Goal 5: Maintain @195-198

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              • #8
                Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

                Hi G-man,

                On Fitday, you have to subtract any alcohols and fiber from the carb total they give to get your net carbs.

                For the BMR on Fitday, go to the activities page and it will break down where you are burning your calories. The BASAL listed is your BMR. You should be hitting that daily. As you lose weight, you will see this number drop a little with your weight loss. A smaller body needs fewer calories to sustain it. Whatever exercise and lifestyle calories you burn will then work towards your fat loss, but you should meet your basal requirements. Hope this makes it easier to figure out.

                1900 or so isn't too bad. Your earlier post had me thinking you were eating under 1000--that's too little for a petite woman!
                JILL

                HW 298
                HW (this time) 248
                GOAL ONE 228                 (take 2)
                GOAL TWO 213 (personal goal)
                GOAL THREE 199 ONE-DERLAND
                FINAL GOAL 165

                 It's not about the results. Its about the process.

                "I've never come home after a workout and said, MAN, I wish I had NOT exercised today!"



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                • #9
                  Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

                  Thanks Jill-
                  So do you compile the fitday, and then manually or with speadsheet, calculate the net carbs? I should have realized this, but must be in denial that it would be that extra effort.
                  Thanks
                  Glenn
                  240/231/198
                  6'1"
                  01/09/10
                  Goal 1: 229
                  Goal 2: 219
                  Goal 3: 209
                  Goal 4: 198
                  Goal 5: Maintain @195-198

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                  • #10
                    Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

                    I just log the stuff into fitday throughout the day--I would never have the patience to do it all at once-- and then check my carb total in the upper right box and just subtract out the fiber and alcohol (if any) right from their information in the daily totals. Since I put in breakfast and lunch before I eat dinner I know if I have to watch my carbs that night and can choose accordingly.

                    At the end of the day I check my calories to see that I am near the Basal (yes, same as BMR) on Fitday. I don't obsess over it. There are days I am under by 200-300 calories and there are days when I am over by 300 or 400 if I went out or had a family party. But my total eaten has never exceeded the total burned when I factor in the lifestyle and exercise calories too. The 2054 sounds about right for your gender and height for your BMR so if you shoot for 2000-2100 you will be in good shape.
                    JILL

                    HW 298
                    HW (this time) 248
                    GOAL ONE 228                     (take 2)
                    GOAL TWO 213 (personal goal)
                    GOAL THREE 199 ONE-DERLAND
                    FINAL GOAL 165

                     It's not about the results. Its about the process.

                    "I've never come home after a workout and said, MAN, I wish I had NOT exercised today!"



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                    • #11
                      Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

                      No spreadsheet needed for the carbs, just take the totals and subtract in your head after Fitday does the addition.
                      JILL

                      HW 298
                      HW (this time) 248
                      GOAL ONE 228                       (take 2)
                      GOAL TWO 213 (personal goal)
                      GOAL THREE 199 ONE-DERLAND
                      FINAL GOAL 165

                       It's not about the results. Its about the process.

                      "I've never come home after a workout and said, MAN, I wish I had NOT exercised today!"



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                      • #12
                        Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

                        Thanks Jill!
                        Glenn
                        240/231/198
                        6'1"
                        01/09/10
                        Goal 1: 229
                        Goal 2: 219
                        Goal 3: 209
                        Goal 4: 198
                        Goal 5: Maintain @195-198

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                        • #13
                          Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

                          Mayo is a good thing
                          My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four. Unless there are three other people.
                          ~Orson Welles




                          Everytime I am tempted to use food to satisfy my frustrated desires, build up my injured ego, or dull my senses, I will remember,
                          That even though I overeat in private, my excess poundage is there for all the world to see.
                          ------------------------------------------------------------

                          "Eating like most people won't, so I can look like most people don't."

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                          • #14
                            Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

                            Yes mayo is good.
                            BTW I am using fitday to track water now. I realized I was now always getting 64+ oz.
                            240/231/198
                            6'1"
                            01/09/10
                            Goal 1: 229
                            Goal 2: 219
                            Goal 3: 209
                            Goal 4: 198
                            Goal 5: Maintain @195-198

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                            • #15
                              Re: Hold the (extra) mayo!

                              Gman, if you set a daily 'goal' (in fitday it's on the left hand menu under 'goals)for fibre (can be any #) in Fitday, it will automatically start showing you your fibre carb grams as part of your daily summary similar to the example below




                              I don't use fitday anymore this is an old example I had in photobucket, but i'm sure it's similar, just may look a little different...
                              Jen, 39, F
                              In maintenance



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